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Top 1.   Jan 31, 2004 7:58 AM

» RayBell - Re: Re: Re: Romany loan words in Scots

In response to message posted by rkhen:

Many Lowlanders are completely unaware how much Gaelic is used by them... for instance "slapper" and "Braw" are Gaelic in origin... This is partly because most Scots are ignorant of Gaelic, and because there's been so much propaganda and rubbish spoken about it (it would have been spoken over most of the Lowlands).

I was wondering though, how much Romany is in Scotland's older language. I don't really know. I know "radge" well enough, and was interested to find in Dwelly's dictionary "Raideachas" (rajuchus) which probably comes from it. I'm told Shelta in Ireland is a mix of their Gaelic with Romany and English.

"Radge", "Gadgie", "Cooshtie" - I know all of these well enough. I ken "gadgie" as just meaning "guy" and/or "boss" - nothing to do with non-Gypsy, but that's how much it's changed.

p.s. Hickory Dickory Dock is probably of Welsh origin. There's a lot of old words used for counting sheep in parts of Scotland, and Northern England which have been proven to be linked to Welsh...

-- posted by RayBell


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