How "Out" is Out of the Broom Closet?
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- LadyKelien
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- LadyKelien
- ArthurRuger
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» LadyKelien - This was a very nice article
I really liked this article. Im one of those people who is standing with one foot in the broom closet and one foot out of it. But, because I dont have a "Normal" Job Its easier to be out there than it is with family.My family knows. Sort of. My mother, sister and my mothers sisters all know. My father knows but I deny it and he ignores it. We live that way because One we live in the same house, and two I know what would follow if I did tell him. Hes a preacher. My mother divorcing him nearly ended that. My being completely out of the closet would end it. Hes happier pretending he doesnt know. And Im happier pretending that he doesnt know.
Im completely out on the internet. There isnt anyone Ive ever met on the internet that doesnt know Im pagan. Ive always taught my children to be honest. So when my sons very christain teacher started talking about christmas and how it was Jesus's birthday He told her she was wrong. It was the day the Sun was reborn to the Goddess. That went over like a lead of bricks let me tell ya. That is part of why I homeschool now. I dont want my children being treated diffrently because their mother believes something diffrent than the rest of the majority in this community.
My hubby wouldnt dare say he is pagan at work. None of them go to church but, this is the south. Were lucky we finally convinced his boss that he needed to hire a women who applied to work in the shop. She knows what shes doing and is helping make things a lot easier for Bear. But, when your boss is so old school he doesnt think a women can build cabinets you know you will have a problem if the issues of religon or politics come up
-- posted by LadyKelien
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» terpette - Re: This was a very nice article
In response to message posted by LadyKelien:This was one of the first articles I wrote when I was applying for Suite101. It's something that isn't discussed much in the Pagan community, particularly with new folk, who swing between the extremes of "I must tell everyone I know about my new religion!" and "Oh god, if I tell someone everyone will leave me and bad stuff will happen!"
I'd like to do a follow-up piece at some point about "coming out" to those close to you. I've seen lots of posts from newbie teens who are absolutely scared to death to tell their parents, and I simply cannot imagine that every parent on the planet besides my two are that intolerant towards their own children. Of course, I'm only getting the teen's POV, too.
Oh, and next year tell your son to tell folks that historians suspect Jesus was not born in December at all. I don't have references on hand, but there's been some interesting work done on determining when Jesus was actually born going on clues from the Bible (the census, the Star, and the Magis' journey).
Karen =)
-- posted by terpette
» LadyKelien - Re: Re: This was a very nice article
In response to message posted by terpette:Karen that is the belief I was raised on. Daddy's sermon on christmas was always about Christ Crusifiction and on Easter about his birth. Why? Cause christmas isnt the time Christ was born. I was taught it was most likly in the spring or summer and my father always took the approach that it was most likely after lambing seasion because most of those events werent just about How many people there were but also about hwo many animals they owned, how big of a piece of land they owned, how much money they had and that kind of thing. You would want to do it after the birthing season which typically started in Febuary so that you would have an accurate count of new births. It most likely was either before passover when everyone would be traveling to Jerusalm anyway or just after Passover when they were on their way home. Which would put His death very close to his birthday. Which isnt all that unusual. Everyone in my life that has died has done so within a month of their birthdays on one side or the other. Of course other important dates can play a role as well. My grandfather died 2 weeks after his birthday and 4 years to the day after my grandmother who died almost three weeks after her birthday. Their birthdays were 4 days apart.
-- posted by LadyKelien
» ArthurRuger - Re: This was a very nice article
In response to message posted by LadyKelien:I've got one foot in some kind of closet - that's for sure.
My topic seems to bring out as many defenders of the faith and the patriarchal order as it does those who think of God in what ever form as having compassion.
I've been thinking that it's time again for another article taking on patriarchy at The New Christianity.
I recently purchased "THE GREAT COSMIC MOTHER -Rediscovering the Religion of the Earth" by Monia Sjoo and Barbara Mor, copyright 1987.
I can't remember what I had in the search engine when I found a reference to this book. Gave it to my wife for our anniversary in January and started reading it.
Took me more than a month to get my wife interested and then she read it (nearly 500 pages) in two days.
THEN - only then when she had finished - was I able to finish it. It is a powerful writing and I felt so many article ideas surging. Made me angry enough to pick up a sword and go after a "fundie patriarch" for the Goddess. (grin)
-- posted by ArthurRuger
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