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» dancooper - Re: Re: Duking it out between two muscle cars
In response to Re: Duking it out between two muscle cars posted by humorous_sage:Hi Hank!
Yeah, Eastwood’s first success (I think) was as “Rowdy” on Rawhide. He left there to become a ‘star’ with the Dollar movies.
Unfortunately, I was never a big fan of Rawhide. I made no connection with it as a later Eastwood fan, until his early career was pointed out to me.
Dan
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» humorous_sage - Re: Re: Re: Duking it out between two muscle cars
In response to Re: Re: Duking it out between two muscle cars posted by dancooper:My how tastes differ. I liked Rowdy more than I liked Dirty Harry. It sounds like you are more a car man and less a lover of horse operas. C'est la vie.
Hank
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» dancooper - Horseless carriages vs horse operas
In response to Re: Re: Re: Duking it out between two muscle cars posted by humorous_sage:You are right about me not being a huge fan of the Western genre. There are some I liked a lot, but most of the Western TV series I watched more just because they were fed to us in such large doses. Years ago it seemed Westerns were the main course in our TV diet. I watched Gunsmoke just because it was on. I did like Maverick, but that’s probably more because of an appreciation for James Garner. I wasn’t drawn into very many Westerns like I was into The Fugitive, for example.
I also liked Have Gun; Will Travel with the hero dressed in bad-guy black, and earning his living as a hired gun. I did get hooked on the Cartright’s Ponderosa.
Before that, as a young kid doing the Saturday morning lineup, I watched The Lone Ranger and liked it a lot. I even liked the Cisco Kid (although why I liked it escapes me now). Of course there was Gene Autry, too. Then there was Sky King…
Hmmm… The memories of youthful attachments are fun to reminisce about sometimes.
Dan
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» dancooper - Why not Dodge
I did a little research on the subject and have an update. From the sources I read, it seems Daimler-Chrysler had the chance to get their new Charger into the role of the updated General Lee. They passed on the opportunity.If my sources are correct, Chrysler passed on what might have been a marketing opportunity because of the rebel flag painted on the original General Lee. With the questionable values that have been attributed to the Confederate flag, it may have been a wise decision, after all. Chrysler apparently didn’t want to get ‘political’ with sensitive issues. I guess that’s understandable.
Dan
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» humorous_sage - Political Correctness
In response to Why not Dodge posted by dancooper:Bah. Humbug. Down with political correctness. It is a narrow minded credo that turns millions of thinking people into mutes. The concept might be good but too many people carry it way too far.
Hank
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» dancooper - Re: Political Correctness
In response to Political Correctness posted by humorous_sage:I agree with you, in part, Henry. That is, I agree that ‘political correctness’ can be a waste of valuable time. But I think this decision by DaimlerChrysler is a wise one.
First, the issue goes beyond the limits of simple political correctness. If it remained on that level, I would agree with you completely. But the issue of discerning the meaning intended by the display of this particular flag is so controversial as to be an instant problem for a company looking to find new buyers instead of turning off whole segments of the market.
I read some stats somewhere that indicated Chrysler is experiencing substantial growth in their marketing to Black Americans. What better way to shut down that growth than to alienate the entire sector with a symbol that has, rightly or wrongly, been directly associated with slavery, racial segregation, and racial dominance. This is a simple marketing decision in this respect, based on dollars, not bowing to the artificial god of ‘political correctitude.’
But aside from the obvious dollars-and-cents reasons, there is the issue of what the flag actually stands for in America. And that is the real problem, over and above any rationale to promote sales. I think this goes a lot deeper than just avoiding stepping on someone’s toes.
I am not from the South. But I can recognize what was a legitimate and valuable cause for Southerners as represented by this flag. Unfortunately, this nexus of positive Southern values, if you will, has been assaulted and nearly burned alive by a far less attractive set of values. The flag, which perhaps originally stood for only that positive nexus of values (or at least did so substantially), has taken on the unmistakable ugliness of this second set of connotations. Many outside of the South see the flag as representing something dark and ugly. That view of its less attractive attributes cannot be ignored if you are entertaining the notion of associating yourself with it.
Dan
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» humorous_sage - Re: Re: Political Correctness
In response to Re: Political Correctness posted by dancooper:You have a good point. However, political correctness often goes way too far -- especially when we have to consciously analyze each word we say -- before saying it.
Many in the politically correct camp get pretty vicious when their own ox is gored.
Hank
-- posted by humorous_sage
» dancooper - Political Correctness
In response to Re: Re: Political Correctness posted by humorous_sage:“Many in the politically correct camp get pretty vicious when their own ox is gored.”
Agreed. Not universally, but at least sometimes, they are as hypocritical a bunch as you will ever find. I certainly didn’t mean to argue against you on that point. I think the observation you make has a lot to do with a combination of over-sensitivity and over-reaction. But whatever the causes, the result is pretty …it is pretty …actually, what it is, is NOT pretty.
Think of a cornered badger. Now think of a badger that is not cornered, but believes he is.
Dan
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» humorous_sage - Re: Political Correctness
In response to Political Correctness posted by dancooper:I do my best to keep from arguing with badgers. We don't speak the same language.
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» dancooper - Re: Re: Political Correctness
In response to Re: Political Correctness posted by humorous_sage:I try to avoid them, too. Even the two-legged kind.
Dan
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