The Gradations of Abuse

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  1. dlstang
  2. samvak
  3. Jo Murphy
  4. samvak
  5. Jo Murphy
  6. smartdebbie2001
  7. samvak
  8. sdlabrado

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Top 1.   Jun 16, 2003 3:45 PM

» dlstang - Thank you for adopting...

...this topic. You are absolutely right that among many professionals there is a false hierarchy in terms of some types of abuse being more "real" than others. You are also absolutely right that emotional abuse is just as scarring and damaging as any other kind. I look forward to reading more.

-- posted by dlstang



Top 2.   Jun 17, 2003 2:35 AM

» samvak - Re: Thank you for adopting...

In response to message posted by dlstang:

Thank you, Debra.

I am glad to be here, with all of you!

Sam

-- posted by samvak



Top 3.   Jun 18, 2003 12:30 AM

» Jo Murphy - Re: Thank you for adopting...

Dear Jo,

Thank you for linking to my topic.

Don't know if you have seen these as well:

http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/spou...

http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/npd

You may find this article of interest:

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal66.html

I have posted your front page to my Narcissistic Abuse Study List (1300 members):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissist...

Take care and you are welcome here!

Sam

-- posted by Jo Murphy



Top 4.   Jun 18, 2003 3:19 AM

» samvak - Re: Re: Thank you for adopting...

In response to message posted by brisbaneartist:

Jo, I am completely baffled. I don't know why your message was replaced with mine. Must be the server acting out ...

Feel free to re-post your message. My apologies!

And please continue to contribute.

Sam

-- posted by samvak



Top 5.   Jun 18, 2003 12:24 PM

» Jo Murphy - Gremlins

In response to message posted by samvak:

Have you met our Gremlins? They lurk on the discussion boards waiting to "throw" unsuspecting conversationalists into a sea of confusion.
Their names are Cunning, Baffling and Powerful.
They pounce at the oddest times and do the most amazing things!
Like turn entire discussion threads upside down.
They post yesterdays posts ahead of tomorrow's!
More often than not though they just 'disapper' the post so that the writer comes back to see the reply only to find- alas - all is gone.
But wait that is not all? If you would like to know what else these amazing cyber critters can do - just keep posting. And if something really, really odd happens please let me know.
I am writing a book affectionately called -
Don't Take It All Too Seriously.



Sam have been reading your work for a long time and finding it in many places other than the Suite.
I will keep dropping in. Thanks for the reply,
Jo
http://www.busywomen.com.au http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/mura...

-- posted by Jo Murphy



Top 6.   Apr 11, 2004 7:50 PM

» smartdebbie2001 - Abuse

In response to your article, emotional and psychological abuse is not well known in my area by therapist. The victims get labeled as Dependant Personality, Anxiety DO, or just plain depression. I am a therapist and also have ended a relationship with a N. He used religion a tool to make people admire him and feel self-rightous. When I was questioning our relationship and my feelings it was so hard because he would say things like, all you need is the Bible, his church, surrender etc. If I questioned his statements he would chalk it us to I am not spiritual enough. I doubted my relationship with my Higher Power. I still get a strange feeling when people talk about religion. I dont trust others right now, all fallout from the relationship. I think that I am a victim of abuse but sometimes it is hard for me because there are no physcial marks. DEB

-- posted by smartdebbie2001



Top 7.   Apr 12, 2004 3:58 AM

» samvak - Re: Abuse

In response to message posted by smartdebbie2001:

Hi, Smart Debbie,

Religion is often abused by narcissists.

Read these:

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal45.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/faq11.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal45.html

http://samvak.tripod.com/faq47.html

Take care.

Sam

-- posted by samvak



Top 8.   May 23, 2006 5:35 AM

» sdlabrado - verbal abuse

I WAS RECENTLY SIGNING INTO MY EMAIL. OR SO I THOUGHT AND SAW SOME EMAIL FROM A CHILDS FATHER WHO IS STAYING WITH ME RIGHT NOW. I READ THE EMAIL FROM HIM AND I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT YOUR TAKE IS ON THIS? HERE'S A COPY:
Whatever
Just more of the same juvenile horse shit as before. Just a different flavor. I have heard this line of shit from you before. You’re stuck on stupid. You can’t talk to me about certain things………sure. When you know how stupid things you pull on me is about to cave in on you. I don’t deal with dumb shit. This is dumb shit just like your mother pulled on me. I hate her. Don’t make me hate you too. By the way I did not make you choose either deadbeat bastard over me. You made the choice all on your own. I told you from jump this one was trouble and you would not listen to me. It won’t last for you either.

You talk a big game plan and all that crap that’s all it is to you. A big game. Well its life at its best in my rule book………..and you have done to me the worst things you could have. Put others in front of your father………the only real family you have……..and for what?

Freedom to hang out with whomever you want when ever you want. Well this freedom came to you today for a handsome price. One for which you will never be able to pay. To place absolute strangers in front of your father is something no real man will ever tolerate. Not once but twice. A complete act of self service shit. For 18 years it’s been all about you for me. I am going to take care of me for a change. And you dear lady can kiss my ass for a change.

I am tired of kissing yours. I give up on you. You scare me when you act like your mother with the lies you tell to get what you want. Anything to get her way

Has been her motto. Lie, steal ,cheat anyone,anytime,friends,famly never mattered to her. She played on the fact that people loved her and she could just keep it up and they would always forgive her. That played out for her.

This is why I scare you. You know how I hate her and her brand of dirty shit. When you pull her kind of calculating shit on me like you did today you should be in fear. Fear that you will be hated for your wrongs in life is normal. Not giving a shit and doing the wrongs when you know your wrong is the same behavior she is capable of. That is why she is/was never part of your life. Now you play me like she did. It’s a sickness you will have to cure in your heart and head.

I know you have an inner voice telling you how bad this shit was you have done. It was on your face today. In your eyes. On the top of your head as you looked at the ground in shame. Just like beefy when he knows he is in trouble. Your not slick. You knew this was going to happen. Just like before.

You just were not ready today. Just like last time. You were not ready then either. Next time you talk to your mother ask her if out of all the times she went to jail was she ever ready to go. I say this in hope you will see the similarities.

Yea your not just like her but your starting down the same path she did again and again. She did not have anyone that could scare her back on the right path. Your bank account was overdrawn $25.57 today. I don’t have time for this shit either. Good luck on the bus stops. You should meet some real redeeming mother fuckers on the bus. Scum of the earth at best. Hope you like the new baby sitter job too. Your mother was always good with the kids.

That is when she was not in jail. Or doing a bank job. Yea you got your dig in today with the beat my ass again remark. I beat your ass to show you were not going to play me for free and I cared. You did not get your ass beat today because I don’t care so much as I once did.

You made a fool of me once. That is something you will never have the luxury of ever again. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Shame on you for the rest of your days. I am sorry for you. I will never be sorry because of you again. Don’t blow any smoke up my ass on your fresh start either. You just picked up where you left off when I gave you the boot last time. Just a new set of nuts that’s all.

He is going to thunderbird. A place for troubled delinquent ass holes. The only way to get into this place is to have done something so wrong it would have placed him in prison had he been an adult.

Wake up your throwing your life away for a thug dressed up like chota boy. D ta D


ANY ADVICE ON HOW TO HANDLE THIS?

-- posted by sdlabrado



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