need outside opinion HELP!!
- riggerwife24
- LadyKelien
- riggerwife24
- LadyKelien
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- LadyKelien
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» riggerwife24 - need a subjective reading
I am new to the tarot (I've been reading for about a year) my mother asked me to do a reading for her because she had ended a relationship recently. The spread was a traditional Celtic cross, it was not good from beginning to end with the final outcome being the death card. this could mean the death of the relationship and a new beginning i know, but she has been in bad health lately. i did another spread i found in a book called romancing the tarot, it was called what you need to do to find true love and again the final outcome was death! i thoroughly mixed the cards and did another in between. please any interpretation of this would be helpful. possibly an outside reading if there are any kind hearted souls out there.-- posted by riggerwife24
» LadyKelien - Re: need a subjective reading
In response to message posted by riggerwife24:Ok first dont panic. It doesnt even neccissaraly mean that the relationship is going to end. The Death card is change no more no less. The few times in your life as a reader that it might show up as death you wont panic over it. You will logically think what can be done to change it. Remember we read the tarot to know where our path is headed at the moment not to set the future in stone. This is to help us get back on track or change paths to avoid unneccissary life situations not to say there is no way to avoid what is to come. Everything changes even a tarot spread.
Second your using the wrong spread. The celtic cross is not only one of the most difficult spreads on the planet it is also one of the most outdated. I know everyone puts it in that little white book that comes with the deck. But, thats because it was one of the few spreads Waite could give to them that wouldnt violate vows he had taken.
Since youve been reading for a year I think you need to do this reading for yourself. But, you have to find yourself a space within yourself where you can block all negative energy from being drawn into the spread by your fear. Im going to walk you step by step through what to do then please post the complete reading for us here and what you think its telling you. It will be a good lesson for everyone.
First I want you to go to http://www.tarotspreads.com click on the spreads button pick a spread by topic and pick love. Go through the spreads and find a fairly simple one that will give you the answers your looking for for your mother. Once you have the spread print it off or write it down some where so that you can take it with you away from the computer.
Find yourself a quiet space where you wont be disturbed and relax. Close your eyes and allow yourself to imagine yourself being covered in a silvery light. Then imagine a blue flame circle surounding you. Allow yourself to feel your fears and anxities slip away. Breath through your nose taking deep slow breaths that completely fill your lungs. Breath this way through the entire reading. When you feel as though all the fear and negativity associated with the situation has slipped away from you and you can approach it from a non emotional state of being, shuffle your cards and do the spread.
If the death card comes up again ask for a clarification (this can be done either right after the death card is drawn or after the spread is completly laid out) pull the clarifing card and place it over the death card. If its something like the Four of Swords, or 10 of Swords then you might want to warn your mother to stay clear of her boyfriend for a while becaue he might not be stable and it could mean death. If it isnt one of those cards then you will have to figure out what the clarification is trying to tell you. Ill help just post the entire spread, positon meanings and cards to the board and Ill help interpret it.
-- posted by LadyKelien
» riggerwife24 - Re: Re: need a subjective reading
In response to message posted by LadyKelien:ok i used a spread called good bye on the website you gave me.
position one: what i originaly wanted...9 of wands
position two: how it is now...ace of cups
position three: what am i saying goodbye to..
the hermit
position four: what remains behind...ace of swords
position five: how will it be now...page of swords
i am using the mythic tarot deck. a bit of background. this man threw her out the apartment they shared together. she came home and her stuff was out on the porch and the locks were changed. she is now sleeping on someones couch for the time being. she recently had a near death experience with blood clots in her legs also. i am only able to do so much for her. i have four children of my own and i no longer live near her to help. i cant tell you how much i appreciate your help, thank you.
-- posted by riggerwife24
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Author: riggerwife24
Date: February 8, 2004 10:40 PM
Subject: need a subjective reading
I am new to the tarot (I've been reading for about a year) my mother asked me to do a reading for her because she had ended a relationship recently. The spread was a traditional Celtic cross, it was not good from beginning to end with the final outcome being the death card. this could mean the death of the relationship and a new beginning i know, but she has been in bad health lately. i did another spread i found in a book called romancing the tarot, it was called what you need to do to find true love and again the final outcome was death! i thoroughly mixed the cards and did another in between. please any interpretation of this would be helpful. possibly an outside reading if there are any kind hearted souls out there.
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Author: LadyKelien
Date: February 9, 2004 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: need a subjective reading
In response to message posted by riggerwife24:
Ok first dont panic. It doesnt even neccissaraly mean that the relationship is going to end. The Death card is change no more no less. The few times in your life as a reader that it might show up as death you wont panic over it. You will logically think what can be done to change it. Remember we read the tarot to know where our path is headed at the moment not to set the future in stone. This is to help us get back on track or change paths to avoid unneccissary life situations not to say there is no way to avoid what is to come. Everything changes even a tarot spread.
Second your using the wrong spread. The celtic cross is not only one of the most difficult spreads on the planet it is also one of the most outdated. I know everyone puts it in that little white book that comes with the deck. But, thats because it was one of the few spreads Waite could give to them that wouldnt violate vows he had taken.
Since youve been reading for a year I think you need to do this reading for yourself. But, you have to find yourself a space within yourself where you can block all negative energy from being drawn into the spread by your fear. Im going to walk you step by step through what to do then please post the complete reading for us here and what you think its telling you. It will be a good lesson for everyone.
First I want you to go to http://www.tarotspreads.com click on the spreads button pick a spread by topic and pick love. Go through the spreads and find a fairly simple one that will give you the answers your looking for for your mother. Once you have the spread print it off or write it down some where so that you can take it with you away from the computer.
Find yourself a quiet space where you wont be disturbed and relax. Close your eyes and allow yourself to imagine yourself being covered in a silvery light. Then imagine a blue flame circle surounding you. Allow yourself to feel your fears and anxities slip away. Breath through your nose taking deep slow breaths that completely fill your lungs. Breath this way through the entire reading. When you feel as though all the fear and negativity associated with the situation has slipped away from you and you can approach it from a non emotional state of being, shuffle your cards and do the spread.
If the death card comes up again ask for a clarification (this can be done either right after the death card is drawn or after the spread is completly laid out) pull the clarifing card and place it over the death card. If its something like the Four of Swords, or 10 of Swords then you might want to warn your mother to stay clear of her boyfriend for a while becaue he might not be stable and it could mean death. If it isnt one of those cards then you will have to figure out what the clarification is trying to tell you. Ill help just post the entire spread, positon meanings and cards to the board and Ill help interpret it.
J. Rebecca Cougill
Certified Tarot Consultant
Editor Tarot Traditions
Contributing Editor for PaganismAssociate Editor of The Topics Tarot and Tarot Card Reading Course Author The Basics of Tarot Reading and Court Cards: Another Arcana
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Author: riggerwife24
Date: February 9, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Re: need a subjective reading
In response to message posted by LadyKelien:
position one: what i originaly wanted...9 of wands This card in the RWS deck shows a man standing with one wand in his hands and the rest behind him like a wall. He is leaning heavyly on it and looks a bit tired and beaten. He has put away all the staffs but one because well hes waiting on the other shoe to fall. For the conflict to return. She wanted it to work out but part of her was always waiting on him to do this. I think this ended up showing more of what she expected than what she wanted.
position two: how it is now...ace of cups
Things are a bit emotional for her at the moment but its a cleansing type emotional not a Im just going to crawl in a hole and die emotional. Anger plays a part here too as that her cup is running over with all the emotions that are driving her.
position three: what am i saying goodbye to..
the hermit It is interesting that by kicking her out what she is saying goodbye to is a period in her life where she walked alone in a spiritual and emotional sense.
position four: what remains behind...ace of swords What remains behind is the unemotional logic that kept her there to begin with. All of those things Like but I dont have the money to get my own place right now.
position five: how will it be now...page of swords Beginning of Spring. Think of this as a the days are brighter the air is clearer, Im so glad to get out of there type thing we all have after a winter of cabin fever.
Your mom is going to be fine. She just needs to work through the emotional part of change. Give her some time to get her emotions in balance and she will start telling you how this is all for the best. And dont worry so much. I know you would like to help but this is her life to live you cant live it for her. Funny how we go from being our parents children to being our parents parents once we have our own children isnt it. Im the same way with my Dad.
Its a learning experiance. Shes going to have to figure out she can make it on her own and that she can stand on her own two feet. How long she is living on someone elses couch is up to her. She can get up and make the best of it now or later but either way she will eventually learn that lesson and do just that.
I hope that helps clear things up for you a bit.
-- posted by LadyKelien
» riggerwife24 - Re: Re: Re: Re: need a subjective reading
In response to message posted by LadyKelien:thank you so much for helping me through this and taking the time to write me. it helped more than you know
-- posted by riggerwife24
» LadyKelien - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: need a subjective reading
In response to message posted by riggerwife24:Anytime thats part of why Im here
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