10 and ½ COMMON MYTHS ABOUT MUSLIMS (in no particular order)
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» BrotherJones - Re: Better Posts
In response to Better Posts posted by Pinky102:That was one of your better posts, Brother Jones.
I love a good pat on the head, especially from a backslid liberal, which means that liberals should at some point try and throw you back to your original family and roots. Consider the matter closed. I am also happy because the storm (maybe) missed us here and my wife and I are headed off to play this weekend.
-- posted by BrotherJones
» Binte - Why is a Muslim Scary?
Ok, since the term comes up so often and it's good to know where someone is coming from when they use it, I'd like to hear (read
) definitions of the term 'religious fundamentalist'.If you do post your understanding of the word, I'd appreciate an additional, more particular, definition of the kind of Muslim you would consider a 'fundamentalist'.
I ask because while it's obvious that people who blow up buildings are fanatic and probably psychotic too, I've seen Muslims who follow the basic tenets of Islam referred to as such too.
What scares others about seeing a Muslim? Is it the hijab? Is is the beard? Or is it just stereotyping?
Fatima
-- posted by Binte
» _Boanerges_ - Re: Why is a Muslim Scary?
In response to Why is a Muslim Scary? posted by Binte:Hi Fatima,
Don't fall for the politics of the name calling game (labeling and branding). Fundamentalists and Extremists are polar opposites. Unfortunately, people want to label something, when in fact, they are only fear-mongering and attaching labels.
Those who blow up buildings, etc, are extremists.... Those who hold to tradition, are fundamentalists.
Of course, the neo-liberal's will attach a political name to something that means nothing, in the end....
As you will find, they will attempt to claim 'what you are' (or what I am) - according to their ignorance.... Its best to just ignore it and move forward
The only ones I find scary are those who want to use force to control people. And those who want to silence those to whom they may not agree with....
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» Binte - Re: Re: Why is a Muslim Scary?
In response to Re: Why is a Muslim Scary? posted by _Boanerges_:The sad thing is that when talking about Muslims and Islam, fundamentalist and terrorist seem to be synonymous terms.
-- posted by Binte
» _Boanerges_ - Re: Re: Re: Why is a Muslim Scary?
In response to Re: Re: Why is a Muslim Scary? posted by Binte:Don't worry too much... as a Christian, the same is now being applied to us.....
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» Pinky102 - The Transparent Man
In response to Re: Why is a Muslim Scary? posted by _Boanerges_:Let's take a look at something here.
"... people want to label something, when in fact, they are only fear-mongering and attaching labels,,,""...the neo-liberal's ... will attempt to claim 'what you are' (or what I am) - according to their ignorance..."Let's see, "neo-liberal", uh, that's a new label I hadn't heard before. You put people down for using labels and in the same paragraph you use a label.
-- posted by Pinky102
» _Boanerges_ - Re: The Transparent Man
In response to The Transparent Man posted by Pinky102:You put people down for using labels and in the same paragraph you use a label.
sorry, pinky.... I labeled no person....
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» Pinky102 - Re: Why is a Muslim Scary?
In response to Why is a Muslim Scary? posted by Binte:"If you do post your understanding of the word, I'd appreciate an additional, more particular, definition of the kind of Muslim you would consider a 'fundamentalist'."Here's a quote from the Karen Armstrong book, The Battle For God:
"Fundamentalism--whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim--rearely arises as a battle with an external enemy...it usually begins, instead, as an internal struggle in which traditionalists fight their own coreligionists who, they believe, are making too many7 concessions to the secular world. The fundamentalist will often instinctively respond to encroaching modernity by creating an enclave of pure faith, such as a yeshiva. This marks a withdrqawal from the Godless world into a self-contained community where the faithful attempt to reshape existence in defiance of the changes without. It is thus essentially a defensive move." (page 110)
In her introduction, she writes, "
"One of the most startling developments of the late twentieth century has been the emergence within every major religious tradition of a militant piety popularly known as 'fundamentalism.'"
Armstrong is well known and highly respected for her great knowledge of Islam and Judaism and was a Roman Catholic nun highly educated in her field.
Some of her other books are:Through the Narrow Gate, Beginning the World, The First Christian:St. Paul's Impact on Christianity, Tongues of Fire: An Anthology of Religious and Poetic Experience, The Gospel According to Woman: Christianity's Creation of the Sex War in the West, Holy War: The Crusades and Their Impact on Today's World, The English Mystics of the Fourteenth Century, Muhammad: A Biography of the Prophet and a half dozen or so more similar books.
-- posted by Pinky102
» Pinky102 - Further On Fundamentalism
There is a further point of fundamentalism in every religion where it exists.The central core, in its effort to purify the faith, makes itself a cadre which is a militant organization capable of expansion. For all of you readers who think I don't know what I'm talking about, take a look at what takes place here. You see there is an effort to organize a cadre that is loyal to certain specific fundamentals. When I put my position out, in the other thread that is moderated by Wendell, that I do not believe that Jesus is God, there was an immediate reaction claiming a basic point of Christian Fundamentalism. They cannot accept the facts of life presented to them by modernity. Here's the link:
Click Here for the Specifics
The problem with these fundamentalist activities is that they squeeze all those people out of the faith that will not accept their tests of purity--the faith is hi-jacked for their purposes. If you don't join them, they put you out of their fellowship. Guess where I stand with them.
-- posted by Pinky102
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