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Respect, Discipline, Authority and Other Obsolete Terms

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  1. Pinky102
  2. hawknut
  3. Binte
  4. Pinky102
  5. Binte
  6. hawknut
  7. Pinky102
  8. Binte
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Top 3.   Jan 11, 2005 2:47 PM

» Pinky102 - Re: Re: Once Again :)

In response to Re: Once Again smile posted by Binte:

Thank you.

-- posted by Pinky102



Top 4.   Jan 20, 2005 9:53 AM

» hawknut - Inspiring

What a wonderful prayer. One of the best I've read for children. Thank you for posting it.

Of course, your article tugged at my heart regarding the tsunami disaster. And it helped me understand the child/parent relationship in Islamic terms.

Good writing, Fatima.

-- posted by hawknut



Top 5.   Jan 21, 2005 1:18 PM

» Binte - Re: Inspiring

In response to Inspiring posted by hawknut:

You can check out more prayers from the same source at http://al-islam.org/sahifa/

They cover pretty much all aspects of the Islamic way of thinking socially and and spiritually. Or at least the way Muslims should think ... smile

-- posted by Binte



Top 6.   Jan 21, 2005 7:13 PM

» Pinky102 - Re: Re: Inspiring

In response to Re: Inspiring posted by Binte:

Hi, Binte.

When you say, "the way Muslims should think", are you meaning the way the Sunis see it? What about the Wahabis, do they believe the same as the Shiis? Aren't there as many denominations among the Muslims as there are among the Christians?

You've certainly touched on an important topic, my friend.

-- posted by Pinky102



Top 7.   Jan 24, 2005 5:12 AM

» Binte - Re: Re: Re: Inspiring

In response to Re: Re: Inspiring posted by Pinky102:

In this case, I meant it more generally - as in all Muslims. Just like I would say Muslims should support peace at all times, but in practice, unfortunately, there are those who don't.

I think when it come to etiquette and manners, all the sects in Islam agree on the highest standards of morality. That's partly what I love about being Muslim. I am expected to have an extremely strong personal conscience and because I believe that God wouldn't ask of me what is beyond my abilities - that means I can have the best possible values. And so can any other person in the world.

There are enough denominations amongst the Muslims! Not more than a hundred though. The two major 'groups' - Sunni and Shia are most common and every sub-sect branches out from one or the other. The Wahabi's tend to be associated with the Sunni branch and are about as opposite to Shia prinicples as you can get.

The differences come up in matters of philosophy -so, for example, while all Muslims believe in One God, how the Shia define this Oneness and how the Sunni do differs.

And of course the main conflict comes up in the matter of divine leaderhip after the Prophet (pbuh) died.

I've been working on a piece specifically explaining this, but I don't want to end up producing a biased view so it's undergoing quite a few edits smile

I'd prefer for people to judge either Shia or Sunni perspective based on facts. Insulting one group won't raise the other's status in the eyes of any intelligent reader!

God willing, I'll try and put up something in the next article about where the Shia/Sunni split originated and maybe a little about the concept of Oneness that I mentioned.

-- posted by Binte



Top 8.   Jan 24, 2005 9:59 AM

» hawknut - Re: Re: Re: Re: Inspiring

In response to Re: Re: Re: Inspiring posted by Binte:

God willing, I'll try and put up something in the next article about where the Shia/Sunni split originated and maybe a little about the concept of Oneness that I mentioned.

I would be most interested in reading this. Thanks for your explanations.

-- posted by hawknut



Top 9.   Jan 24, 2005 10:22 AM

» Pinky102 - Re: Re: Re: Re: Inspiring

In response to Re: Re: Re: Inspiring posted by Binte:

Great!!

I know a little about the problems involved after reading a book, The Battle for God, which deals with the problems of Christianity, Judaism and Islaam. It is written by a respected expert (Wilkins? Williams? Not sure of author's name right now--but I can get it.)

-- posted by Pinky102



Top 10.   Jan 25, 2005 12:27 PM

» Binte - Book: The Battle for God

I met a couple of people today who made me realise just how little of Islamic perspectives are known even here, where Muslims form a large percentage of the populationsad

One of the men I spoke to insisted that Muslims called Christians 'Kafirs' and this was a degradatory term - I had a hard time convincing him that it was just the Arabic word for atheist/polytheists and nothing else. The funniest part was that he had heard this from a non-Muslim friend and preferred believing her than me ... (am still figuring that one out!)

I browsed through Amazon and found The Battle for God by Karen Armstrong - is that the one you're referring to? The excerpt sounded interesting. What's the rest of the book like?

I'm more excited about the article I'm working on now and will put it up asap! smile

-- posted by Binte



Top 11.   Jan 25, 2005 4:31 PM

» Pinky102 - Re: Book: The Battle for God

In response to Book: The Battle for God posted by Binte:

That's the one.

It's an excellent book and well worth the $15.00 or so it costs in paperback. I'm sure you'll be very happy you read it. It is full of references regarding the struggles on behalf of the Muslim peoples. It gives the facts of how the differenct branches of the Muslim's faith were begun and it details the roles the Brittish, French and Americans carried out in creating so much trouble in Persia and the African continent.

It's a book you'll keep in your library. Let me know what you think about it when you start reading it.

-- posted by Pinky102



Top 12.   Jan 27, 2005 9:21 AM

» Binte - Re: Re: Book: The Battle for God

In response to Re: Book: The Battle for God posted by Pinky102:

Will do ...

-- posted by Binte



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