Planting Under Trees - Part 11
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» Marge_Talt - Debbie, No problem, I'll scan those as soon as I get a chance
Debbie,No problem, I'll scan those as soon as I get a chance and post their whereabouts here.
V. n. 'Winterthur' does sound neat. That's deciduous, isn't it? Pink and blue berries! How does it feel about sun? One of these years, I'm going to get going on that new garden in my "wilderness" that I wrote about last year. It will be mostly shrubs and once I get it cleared and some of the garbage trees down, there should be some sun, at least in the afternoon. I've started a wish list. Let me know how this one does for you - may just add it to that list.
Does the Highbush Cranberry need sun or will it do in part or dappled shade?? That bloom is lovely - reminds me of hydrangea. Hmmmmm....Alaska? That makes me wonder about our heat and humidity, tho' I swear I've heard tell of them growing in this area.
That's what I thought about V. bodnantense. Makes me doubtful that I'd see bloom in one year out of four. I've got an extremely early azalea that regularly gets frosted in early April and loses all its flowers. We have such treacherous springs around here...sigh...but I also remember seeing a photo of that viburnum in RHS 'The Garden', I think it was and drooled mightily.
Marge
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» Gay_Klok - I pulled up a clump of epimedium in the weekend, to "just see" a
I pulled up a clump of epimedium in the weekend, to "just see" and planted it further down in the same Rhodo [mainly] bed. It just came with roots attached.They seem to romp pretty quickly, Marge. I have a white flowered type and the bigger, bright yellow type but I have forgotten their exact names. Both colour quite nicely in winter but never lose their leaves. The yellow was out in the weekend, Spring started Sep 1st
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» Deb_TT - Marge, V. nudum 'Winterthur' would do good in partial sun. I
Marge,V. nudum 'Winterthur' would do good in partial sun. I also have my V. trilobums in partial shade and one in almost full sun; both are doing well. Your sun is more intense than mine so I think it would adapt quite well. It is a native of N. America so I think it would be fine in your heat and humidity. In fact I was surprised that it grew in Alaska. Areas of Alaska can be very humid also, although the heat wouldn't be a factor. When the woman was telling me the story, I was imagining big black biting flies, mosquitoes as large as the flies, rotting berries and yet a beautiful valley turned red from the berries and leaves turning red. Both are deciduous.
I look forward to seeing the flowers you will scan. I liked the foliage of them and the peek at the flowers.
Debra Teachout-Teashon
Two Rainy Side Gardeners
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» Deb_TT - Gay, When you say romp do you mean invasive to the point of obno
Gay, When you say romp do you mean invasive to the point of obnoxious like keep them out of beds with shallow rooted perennials? I did get a yellow form, so curious if I need to site this one carefully.Debra Teachout-Teashon
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» Gay_Klok - Debra, I am not sure how to answer you. I am very pleased wit
Debra,I am not sure how to answer you. I am very pleased with their "romping", near Rh. bushes. As they remain in their apparent one large clump and it is easy to pull up the new clumps, I really wouldn't put them into the "thug" class. If you talk about forget-me-nots, eg, they can climb over smaller perennials. I have lots of space between the Rhodos so am glad of them and haven't planted them near Trilliums or wood anemones eg so, I also choose the spots where they are. I suppose, I am thinking as I write, they could become a nuisance but then you can just put them back in their place by chopping away at the outside and making new plants.
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» Deb_TT - Gay, Thanks that's the answer I needed! Especially since tomorro
Gay, Thanks that's the answer I needed! Especially since tomorrow I go pick them up. Marge reassured me they wouldn't romp and now you. Somewhere I got the idea they were rompers and I vowed this new garden I wouldn't get any plants that weren't polite neighbors.I have a feeling I have a romper in the new garden. I dug it up last year to move it and had quite a few sprout in the same place this year. So now I have to dig it out again and next spring be dilligent when any volunteer and dig them out. Problem though none of my references said it was a problem child. The plant? Salvia uliginosis. In fact American Horticultural Society says its clump-forming. Loves full sun but I have it in morning sun afternoon shade. And is a moisture lover. I love the color of the flowers though. Anyone have any experience with this one? Maybe in the PNW it is a problem child because we do have lots of moisture?
Debra Teachout-Teashon
Two Rainy Side Gardeners
Pacific Northwest Lighthouses
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» Marge_Talt - Gay, I'm wondering of your ideal climate has anything to do w
Gay,I'm wondering of your ideal climate has anything to do with your epimediums expanding rapidly? Of course, my clump is in lousy, root-filled soil that gets pretty dry if I'm not vigilent with the hose!
Also, may be the ones you have are more vigorous than mine. I've only had this one clump all these years for some odd reason...just not getting it together to get more, I guess. I have now added another in a different part of the garden - it's still a baby, but we'll see.
Marge
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» Marge_Talt - Debbie, Glad to hear you testify on the viburnums! Those wil
Debbie,Glad to hear you testify on the viburnums! Those will go on my wish list.
Meant to get to the scanning tonight, but ended up spending hours searching for stuff for a spec I am writing. Wanted to get that done, but still have interior signage to go and just can't face it anymore....will get them done soon.
The only time I tried Salvia uliginosis, I promptly killed it :-( Haven't tried it again as I figured it wanted more sun than it got, but now that you say it likes damp, I bet it got too dry.
If you've only got it in part sun in PNW, it would certainly take it for me...must be the moisture...
Personally, I rather like rompers - at least most of them. They cover ground for me and save me a lot of weeding. Of course, ya' gotta be careful who you put them next to. But, my garden has never been "organized" - I plant combos I like and in a few years, the plants have rearranged things for me and I'm usually so busy doing something else, I just let them and only the strong survive.
This salvia must be a plant you could increase by root cuttings....have you ever done any of those? I'm thinking about trying it with some of my anemones if I can get to it soon.
Marge
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» Deb_TT - Marge, Yes I think the root cuttings may be what I did when
Marge,Yes I think the root cuttings may be what I did when I moved them out and left root pieces behind. You should see them though they are taller than I am. So maybe that is it if I just leave them alone they will be clump forming? I am always looking for that color of blue in flowers so I was disappointed that they would be to much. My problem with rompers is I always seem to get them to near more delicate plants!
I have not purposely done root cuttings before although I have wanted to try it since many plants are good to propagate that way.
Debra Teachout-Teashon
Two Rainy Side Gardeners
Pacific Northwest Lighthouses
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» Marge_Talt - Debbie, I'm not sure <i>S. uliginosa</i> ever forms a massive
Debbie,I'm not sure S. uliginosa ever forms a massive clump. If my memory (which isn't much to write home about) is at all right, seems I have read that this one doesn't get "thick"...I did find that Clalusen and Eckstrom say it wants more moisture than most Salvias, so it should be happy in the PNW! Maybe that's why mine left me so soon - I know I had it on a berm which does tend to get dry - thinking it would want super drainage like most of that tribe. I do remember that the flower color was what prompted me to buy it - that's a hard color of blue to find.
Rats! Was hoping you'd done root cuttings and could give me some pointers :-) Well, we'll see if I can get around to it - seems I've managed to overschedule myself yet again.
I know what you mean about putting rompers next to shrinking violets! I've lost many a plant by doing that and turning my back and not watching what kind of shinanigans were going on in the border. It's getting so that now, if I am not familiar with a plant, I'll keep it in a pot for a season to see what it does and how vigorous it is or I put it in a brand new bed or border where there aren't any resident thugs.
Marge
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