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Planting Under Trees - Part 11

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  2. Deb_TT
  3. Marge_Talt
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  5. Marge_Talt
  6. Gay_Klok
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Top 8.   Sep 12, 1998 8:53 AM

» dayan - Hi Marge and Debra: I have been following your animated discu

Hi Marge and Debra:

I have been following your animated discussion with lots of interest and zero knowledge. I have grown moon flowers every year we lived with a southern exposure and I have tried repeatedly to overwinter them like the perennials they are. But I have never been successful. I assume you can leave them out, can you tell me anything up dormancy etc. Do you cut them back or whatever?

Karyn

-- posted by dayan



Top 9.   Sep 12, 1998 11:59 PM

» Deb_TT - Karyn, They are not hardy in my region so I treat them as an

Karyn,

They are not hardy in my region so I treat them as an annual. I start them ahead of time and transplant to the garden in May. Our maritime climate is such a cool climate that most ipomeas (spelling? to lazy to look upsmile can be hard to grow. This year the Morning Glories got off to a flying start and with the warm summer with LOTS of sunshine they really outdid themselves. Unfortunately I didn't do moonflowers this year and now regret it.

Chances are they aren't hardy where you are and that's why, but this is a guess because I don't know where you are! smile Karyn I think you will find as most gardeners eventually realize is: the more you learn about gardening, the more you realize what you don't know about gardening. But that is what makes it so much fun and exciting because there is always something new to learn! Like Marge just taught me to try epimediums! A plant I have admired for a long time and now I am in BIG trouble because they are a fascinating and beautiful group of plants.

Debra Teachout-Teashon

Two Rainy Side Gardeners

Pacific Northwest Lighthouses

-- posted by Deb_TT



Top 10.   Sep 14, 1998 11:05 PM

» Marge_Talt - Karyn, Debbie's right. I've never grown moonflower, but from

Karyn,

Debbie's right. I've never grown moonflower, but from all the posts about it every year on Gardens-L, it is definitaly not hardy for you in Nova Scotia. It's one of those plants that may be perennial where it originates, but is generally treated as an annual by gardeners in temperate climates.

Marge

Gardening in Shade

-- posted by Marge_Talt



Top 11.   Sep 14, 1998 11:11 PM

» Marge_Talt - Debbie, Thanks for the reassurance on the pot size! If I can

Debbie,

Thanks for the reassurance on the pot size! If I can get organized, I want to order a Darmera peltata from them for this new "bog" (actually, hopefully, damp) garden I am currently sweating over building. Have you ever grown this one? Seems like it would be a perfect centerpiece and Clausen and Ekstrom say it will grow in part shade. I tried getting a Gunnera this spring, but it didn't make it - probably would get much too large anyway...sigh...I've always wanted one of those - guess I really need to wait until I've got a lakeside for it.

Marge

Gardening in Shade

-- posted by Marge_Talt



Top 12.   Sep 14, 1998 11:14 PM

» Marge_Talt - Karyn, Actually, you know, Epimedium would work in your shady

Karyn,

Actually, you know, Epimedium would work in your shady garden in the drier spots - would be quite neat amongst some of your rocks, I should think. Might even be a good one to try planting in one of your walls - it's not trailing, but maybe at the top at the edge where you'd like a nice mound of foliage and some dainty flowers - would be good in a wall you can walk next to, if you know what I mean - would put the flowers closer to eye level.

Worth a thought :-)

Marge

Gardening in Shade

-- posted by Marge_Talt



Top 13.   Sep 15, 1998 3:57 AM

» Gay_Klok - Great article, great photos, Debra I couldn't do without epim

Great article, great photos, Debra

I couldn't do without epimedium either. The leaves remain looking ok all year and if I forget to cut them off, we miss most of the flowers which are so tiny. They are also so easy to start in another spot after a year or two. I love free plants!

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-- posted by Gay_Klok



Top 14.   Sep 15, 1998 10:59 PM

» Marge_Talt - Thanks, Gay! Ah, now, you say they're easy to start in anothe

Thanks, Gay!

Ah, now, you say they're easy to start in another part of the garden. This means to me you've dug and divided yours. Since I've never done this with my clump, I don't even know how they grow - root and crown wise. Do they just sort of fall apart when dug or do you have to slice them up?

Do you find this job best done in early spring or later in the season?

Marge

Gardening in
Shade

-- posted by Marge_Talt



Top 15.   Sep 15, 1998 11:30 PM

» Deb_TT - Marge, I have not grown Darmera peltata but it is a lovely plant

Marge, I have not grown Darmera peltata but it is a lovely plant (I looked it up) with a lovely bloom. In Sunset Gardening and the American Horticultural society both say full sun or or partial shade, so I think you are ok.

Yes I have a perfect place for a Gunnera, just have to find it when I finally get the blackberries cleared away. smile It is the lowest spot on our property and in the winter it is almost a pond and stays that way until mid summer. I am sure there is water there even then, just not as evident. For a small garden that plant would be instant landscape! I talked with one of the employees at Heronswood that came by a plant clinic I was manning. We talked gunnera. I was joking that it would be a two person job to prune those 9' leaves or at least you have to yell "TIMBER!" when you prune that baby! She said in most people's gardens they don't get that large. But since Heronswood mulches with heavy amounts of manure (I have seen their gardens in winter and yes LOT's of manure is applied) the Gunnera gets huge. I think one or two leaves of Gunnera would mulch my veggie garden!

On the other end of the scale I pick up my epimediums next week and a few new viburnums to boot! (I need to quit reading what Gaye and Marge are doing in the garden, I can't afford it!) >grin<

Debra Teachout-Teashon

Two Rainy Side Gardeners

Pacific Northwest Lighthouses

-- posted by Deb_TT



Top 16.   Sep 15, 1998 11:37 PM

» Deb_TT - Gaye, Reading all the recommendations for clipping the leave

Gaye,

Reading all the recommendations for clipping the leaves back in late winter is not just for getting rid of old foliage but to be able to see the flowers! You are the first to mention pruning to see the flowers, so I guess I better not let that slip by then...

Debra Teachout-Teashon

Two Rainy Side Gardeners

Pacific Northwest Lighthouses

-- posted by Deb_TT



Top 17.   Sep 16, 1998 4:47 AM

» dayan - Thanks for the suggestion Marge, I have a perfect spot for an <I

Thanks for the suggestion Marge, I have a perfect spot for an Epimedium, right along where the benches are on the deck.

On the moonflower topic, I have been trying to overwinter indoors because the seeds are a real hassle to find here and plants are nonexistent. Lastly, it doesn't get hot enough for the vines to get really huge and I would love to see the plant at something approaching maturity.

Karyn

-- posted by dayan



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