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Deciduous Flowering Shrubs - Part 5Read the article this discussion is about
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» bindweed - What a great article on hydrangeas! To be perfectly frank I never particularly cared for the moundy beasts. Since I have been exposed to the greater variety grown in the Pacific Northwest I have changed my tune entirely.Your article does great justice to this lovely and often poorly used plant. One of my own favorites is Hydrangea mac. var. serrata 'Preziosa' Dark purplish stems and rose-pink flowers that are already deepening to a lovely ruby red and it isn't even Autumn yet! Another lovely and unusual combination was the planting of a deep burgandy-rose hydrangea with the Purple smoke tree. A dark blue would be equally lovely. I am hurriedly taking cuttings as this beautiful garden is about to be sold. They don't call me scissor-hands for nothing. I look forward to your propagation tips. Please hurry. September, in the Northwest is a great time to take cuttings of these plants.
P.S. Do you have Works 2000, if so I might be able to share something with you. I have been assembling my old propagation notes and putting them into a database. Unfortunately this wdb file can only be interpreted by Works. Herbert Senft -- posted by bindweed » Marge_Talt - sissor hands Hi Herb,Thanks for the kind words! Propagation is up in part 6...hope it helps:-) If you don't like the mounding mopheads, you simply have to get your hands on H. quercifolia or one of the cultivars...the form is not mounding at all - well, when in full leaf, it does form a mound, but it's made up of cascading branches, not stiff, upright canes. No, don't have Works 2000...use Word, Excell and Access for Win 95 - very behind the times, but have not seen any reason to upgrade and have all tweaked to suit me:-) Know I cannot read Works files as others have tried to send them to me and all I get is computer garbage...nice of MSoft to make their programs work with each other, isn't it? Have had that bottom table in for ages - easy to do it, will send you the code if you want it....you can put in any background color you like. Let me know. -- posted by Marge_Talt » bindweed - \indows Upgrades???? Marge you wrote: 'I did open the package and ya, I do not see 'any reason to upgrade and have all tweaked to suit me:-) Know I cannot read Works files as others have tried to send them to me and all I get is computer garbage...nice of MSoft to make their programs work with each other, isn't it?'YUP. Especially since then I have had serious problems with my puter. (Other reasons perhaps.) It is the first time that I am totally ticked off with Microsoft. Trust me, I know what I am doing. My Microsoft Word should be able to read this weaker Works program. It cannot. Neither can Microsoft Front Page. When I attempt to convert or copy to html ... it runs into non tabled text. Convertible, if not attractive. Recently I have run into the first and grit my teeth non resolvable--- "I hate Windows" problem. IE 5.5 version. I simply cannot delete or disable the content advisor. When I do, it simply re-appears. "Check for missing information. .... Click, on your Internet Options bar. etc. DONE. Content tab chooses. AAAAPPPPLY! Be it enabled, or disabled -- nothing sticks in the registry. I repaired it once, downloaded a second version. No change. I then deleted the entire upscale program ...and all the peripherals that came with it through Control Panel. NOT QUITE. One cannot delete this program. I had wanted to delete ALL Explorer programs except for the one I have on the original disk. Or even the one that came with 3.1. I am not sure at all, if overriding a previous installed version of IE will work at all. My attempts so far have proven entirely ineffectual. Am ready to reformat the hard drive entire! THE IE 5 version of Explorer cannot be removed!!!! ... so whatever is screwed in my registry is messed up forever. IE5 repair was done. I Re-downloaded 5.5 done. Deletion of previous program assumed. Same problem's surfaced. I delete the entire program! I return to the backup of 5.0 or 5.1 that came with Windows's Second Edition. Same problem. However, at this stage, I cannot delete this version of IE5 from my computer. Leaving me with the choice of re-formatting and living with the pain of reinstalling everything else. TOTAL BITCH!~ herb -- posted by bindweed » Marge_Talt - Windoze annoyances I hear ya' Herb. Your horror is precisely why I have not upgraded from Win95.As far as I know, you cannot get rid of the IE that comes with your operating system. You cannot maintain more than one version of IE on any hard disk unless you have totally separate disks and partitions for it with the old OS. When you install a newer version of IE than 3.x, it overwrites system files and that cannot be changed. What's happening is that you're trying to delete system files that your OS looks for and when it can't find them, it recreates them..so back pops what you thought you'd deleted. I think the code is so far embedded in the OS that you can't get rid of it at all and will only do damage to other stuff trying. What I'd suggest is that you forget IE and just go download the latest Netscape and use that instead. I use Netscape quite a bit. I only keep the old IE as my default because I prefer the way it permits me to organize bookmarks..and I use it to see how my articles or web pages look in older browsers. It totally annoys me that MSoft has not made all of its programs compatible with each other. I can understand my version not being able to see some of the whippy things newer versions of Word can, but I should be able to open and read the gist of things....noooo, that would discourage people from forking out bucks for the newer versions...most of which goodies you can download as separate files free off the MSoft site if you want them. I haven't read one article about anything later than W95 that indicates that there is something I need or want so badly I would be willing to put up with the bugs and changes the newer version would make. So, in a nutshell, your solution is to change browsers:-) You can, as far as I know, have more than one brand of browser on your box at one time and you can make another browser your default if you want to. You could, if you have the disk space, partition your hard disk and run an older version of IE on a separate virtual disk. Partition Magic is the software to do partioning that does not require cleaning your disk and reloading the world. It is one whippy bit of software - highly recommended. -- posted by Marge_Talt » bindweed - I hate to admit -- you may be right! However, as it turns out it was not a Windows problem. We often blame the OS for the problems we occur, when it is poorly written programs that over ride it. Nonetheless I agree about the separation issue.Most people do not use half the programs that Windows has. Even the calculator function has a GREAT Scientific calculator that you can switch on with VIEW. I have reg-edited, repaired, used Dr. Watson, deleted the program to 5.0, then reloaded IE5, 5.5, then even Windows. Went through all the autoexec files as well as the system.ini files. Three hours later, I still have the problem. A program developer friend of mine at Windows spent two hours on the coding himself. Nothing within the Windows program ... and I tend to agree. I spent two hours going over the coding myself. Be it Netscape or IE5 these programs are now so Java enhanced that anything can mess them up. In my case it was a Photo deluxe 2.0/Adobe Connectables that overwrote Windows files. I have still not been able to unearth this sucker. Not all programs function well with each other. It might well be another program that is interfering with this one. All I know is that I ended up with a bunch of redundant and often conflicting lines in my system.ini. ARGGH -- back to PLANTS We do have some great computer resources on this web. Do check them out. No answer to mine yet :-) HERB -- posted by bindweed » bindweed - Marge, I have not tried to convert the database to Excel Or perhaps I should have begun it in this program, rather than in this new Works program. Excel is convertable to near anything and I would recommend that people doing what I did, use this program instead.Databases can be GREAT tools for propagation, color/plant combinations etc. I hope this short thread encourages some of you to enter "good ideas, combinations, or basic data". Herb -- posted by bindweed » Marge_Talt - rogue programs and databases Hi Herb,You're right, it's not always the OS - some poorly coded software can play havoc with all kinds of things. Am surprised at Adobe being the culprit...they should know better. Have you tried contacting their tech support? Hate to think of your having to reformat your hard disk...what a total pain! Re: Excel...it's not a database, but a spreadsheet - flat type file. Access is the Win database. It's a very powerful program with one of the most incomprehensible (to me) learning curves going. I use it, but barely. I keep plant records in it, since it is relational and I keep thinking I'll get to using that one of these years - if I can ever get it to work. Extracting information in the format you want is not easy. Found old DOS db3 much faster to use, even if I did have to learn to speak its language...most of which I have forgotten after 5 or 6 years of windoze..but it was speedy and pretty straightforward. You can enter data in Excel and convert it to an Access database, too. I use Excell for a lot of stuff - it's much easier to get the print out formatted the way I want, it's just not relational. Problem with all databases is that you have to enter the blinkin data:-) Data entry is not my cup of tea and I'll avoid it as long as possible, meanwhile, collecting stacks of odd bits of paper with hieroglyphics on them that get more and more difficult to decipher as time passes. But once you get the data in there, the are super for searching for records of what you have and what happened to it, etc....much faster than sorting through those stacks of bits of paper:-) -- posted by Marge_Talt
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