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My Love is Like a Red, Red ... Rottie?

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  1. MIKESTROKER
  2. WMSmith
  3. kldt
  4. phatcatad
  5. WMSmith
  6. DobieVSW
  7. WMSmith
  8. etrumpcruzan
  9. snp2676
  10. xx_Dr_dan_xx

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Top 14.   Mar 3, 2004 10:17 PM

» MIKESTROKER - Re: Red Rotties

In response to message posted by Calliegurrrl:

R U SURE ABOUT WHAT U WROTE/IM THINKING ABOUT BUYING A RED ROTTIE/BUT IM SCARED THAT IT WIOLL GET SICK ON ME/

-- posted by MIKESTROKER



Top 15.   Mar 7, 2004 7:35 PM

» WMSmith - Re: Re: Red Rotties

In response to message posted by MIKESTROKER:

I am posiive.

Once again, if you have any questions, go to the American Rottweiler Club's website at http://www.amrottclub.org .

Not only does that site have further info on red Rotts, but it is also one of the best sources for info on Rottweiler ownership. I highly recommend that anyone interested in getting a Rottweiler visit that site!!

-- posted by WMSmith



Top 16.   May 22, 2004 3:37 PM

» kldt - Red Rotties

My wonderful dog, Curly Joe, Is a Rottie cross---Daddy was papered, Mama was, as best we could tell, a white German Shephard (not a real good breeed) and yellow lab. Curly Joe is RED, with a black muzzle, eyeliner and brows, and nose. His ears are brindley black. He doesn't always look like a Rottie, but when he's playing he makes a "Rottweiler face", I guess to show his toys how ferocious he is.
I am pretty sure a red purebred rottie must, as you say, be very very inbred. I say this because of an experience with a very very prolific black mama cat who was always pregnant before she stopped nursing to the tune of 4 litters a year. When her offspring began breeding with her, and each other, there were "red" kittens, even though the parents all were pure black. This was a major ordeal, we finally had to trap and cage all of them in order to get them all fixed and end it all.

-- posted by kldt



Top 17.   Aug 12, 2004 12:34 PM

» phatcatad - Re: Thank You

I own a 2yr old female red rottweiler, and she is gorgeous, would not trade her for anything, I don't care what the "registered breeders" say about this color rottweiler. I would like to know if two red rottweilers (unrelated) were to breed what color would the pups be? Is there anyone out there that can answer this question? Thank you

-- posted by phatcatad



Top 18.   Aug 16, 2004 12:49 PM

» WMSmith - Re: Re: Thank You

In response to message posted by phatcatad:

First off, I'm glad you love your dog and wouldn't trade her for anything. It's awsome to have a dog like that.

Genetically speaking, I would say that since red is reccessive in Rotties, if the dogs were purebred then the pups would be red. However, if one of the dogs was actually a crossbreed, then there is no telling what traits would show up.

The trouble with your question is that more than likely, you had two red Rotties that were actually purebreds and not crossbreeds, then more than likely they WOULD be related. If by chance you did manage to find two that were not closely related, that still wouldn't solve the problem.

When people breed dogs, focusing only on color (especially an unusual one), them more often than not, they don't pay attention to the other problems that might be in that line. They don't do health checks, they don't x-ray hips, anything like that.

Say you've got a dog you want to breed. The person you bought the dog from did not do hip x-rays, so you have not idea of hip problems run in your dog's family. Plus, you don't see the need to x-ray your dog's hips. Your dog might appear healthy, but it could still have a mild deformity that it is compensating for. Or it could be a carrier. If you breed that dog to another dog with that same problem or carrying the same trait, related or not, then the puppies that are produced are going to have problems, maybe even more sever than what is visable in their parents.

Some people might say, "who cares, buy the time any problems show up, the puppy will be sold and grown up. It's the owner's probem, not mine."

Well some states, Pennsylvania for example, have "lemon laws" that do hold the breeder accountable, and those breeders can be hit right in the check book, not matter how long ago they sold that puppy.

-- posted by WMSmith



Top 19.   Sep 24, 2004 7:05 AM

» DobieVSW - What a wonderful article!

Thank you! When I meet someone who spent a ridiculous amount of money for a "rare" variation of a breed, my first instinct is to offer condolences. A breeder can breed for a total quality dog or for a gimmick. And the ones who breed for the gimmick are only interested in the profits to be made.

I've been involved with Rottweiler and Doberman rescue for years. I don't have statistics, but my experience is that dogs outside the breed standard are far more likely to have serious genetic health problems which cause owners to seek assistance from rescue. I fervently wish that someone could have educated the owner about these risks before they bought a puppy.

-- posted by DobieVSW



Top 20.   Oct 10, 2004 1:44 PM

» WMSmith - Re: What a wonderful article!

In response to What a wonderful article! posted by DobieVSW:

Thanks so much, Dobie. That article is a little on the older side and could probably do with wee bit of rewriting, but thank you for your wonderful comment. I'm sorry it's taken a while to reply.

About offering condolences, I know what you mean. I once met a person who, when approached by someone bragging about their 200 lb Rottweiler, would reply, "OH, the poor thing. How horrible."

It's very sad, especially for the dogs, when people don't realize that, in most cases, the breed standard is not just there for looks, but to protect the breed and often it's health.

-- posted by WMSmith



Top 21.   Jan 16, 2006 4:28 PM

» etrumpcruzan - Re: Re: Thank You

Hi there, I would love to get my hands on a female red rottweiler puppy. I think they look much better than the black standard version. If you or anyone else can tell me how to find one please let me know. I'm excited for the search.
Thanks

-- posted by etrumpcruzan



Top 22.   Feb 3, 2006 10:55 PM

» snp2676 - Re: Re: Red Rotties

In response to Re: Red Rotties posted by MIKESTROKER:

This gene type with the red color is linked to heart disease andother problems. You should not purchase a red dog as it interferes with the health and integrit of the breed.

-- posted by snp2676



Top 23.   Feb 17, 2006 10:00 AM

» xx_Dr_dan_xx - than the black (sable) parents do and are much more active than

red rotties are more active and see better than the black (sable) parents do and are much more active than there sable brothers and sisters all the reds have been sold and they buyers are aware of there so called akc show rules. we have 4 females that are hand picked for red or maroon color haze in there fur they i have keep a red female from the last litter to breed with a red male 350 miles away her name is wohoo and we will sell them for companion dogs and i will say now i don't care what people say about them don't even waste your time in response it will not be review by me but i do have a waiting list as people in this area find them great family dogs it was akc standard that started inbreeding in the first place they call it selective breeding and one more thing who gave them the power? are they self appointed did a court or voting pole give the power ? to me (akc) is short for asses killing color so look out the big red dog are coming thought

-- posted by xx_Dr_dan_xx



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