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THE NATICK COBBLER: HENRY WILSON, PART III

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  1. jerrib
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Top 1.   Aug 14, 2002 6:42 PM

» jerrib - What a heroic, driven man

I can't imagine traveling 10,000 miles in those days - no wonder his health suffered. And what a tragic way to live his final days. I find it amazing he could carry on his mission.

You always envelop me in your articles, John. Another enjoyable, informative read.

-- posted by jerrib



Top 2.   Aug 16, 2002 7:29 AM

» Tina_Coruth - Fascinating series!

Hi John,

This has been a fascinating series and I've enjoyed it immensely. You inspired me to look for more about Henry Wilson. I was delighted to find an excerpt from his book - History of the Rise and Fall of Slave Power in America. After learning so much about him from you, it brought more meaning and understanding of this exerpt to me. Although he wasn't a great orator, he was a good writer, and as I expected after reading your series, very passionate about the issue of slavery.

Thank you for this wonderful series!
Tina

-- posted by Tina_Coruth



Top 3.   Aug 16, 2002 7:32 AM

» Mugwump53 - Re: What a heroic, driven man

In response to message posted by jerrib:


Thanks, and I'm glad you liked the series of articles on Wilson. It is rare to find a Vice President who was so much a leader and had so much impact on history as Wilson did, especially in that period between Jackson (1825-1836) and Teddy Roosevelt(1901-1909).

-- posted by Mugwump53



Top 4.   Aug 16, 2002 7:37 AM

» Mugwump53 - Re: Fascinating series!

In response to message posted by Tina_Coruth:


As Always, I am pleased you liked my article. New Hampshire did right by the restof the country when she gave us Henry Wilson. It might even make up for Franklin Pierce. {G}

It is interesting that you note he was not a great orator. Idon't remember if I included it in my article, but one contemporary of his stated that he was not eloquent or gifted as a speaker, and in fact was rather plain spoken. But he apparently had a great effect on audiences in spite of that as a result of his sincere passion and personality which apparently came across very strongly in person.

New Hampshire has not conributed as many names to our history as some other states, but when she has, they have certainly been outstanding in their impact.

-- posted by Mugwump53



Top 5.   Aug 20, 2002 7:52 AM

» Tina_Coruth - Re: Re: Fascinating series!

In response to message posted by Mugwump53:
Hi John,
Yes, I learned about Wilson's lack of speaking skills, yet ability to connect with the audience in one of your articles about him. That made it all the more interesting when I came across the excerpt from his book. You do make history interesting and fun!!!

Hopefully Wilson along with some other notable NH people balanced the scales for Franklin Pierce! Just this morning I saw a list of the best presidents and the worst -- as voted by American History Teachers, I think. You'll never guess who was fourth from the very worst. Yes, NH's own Franklin Pierce. Geez, we've got to get one of our solid NH citizens into the presidency!!

As I recall for the best list, Franklin Roosevelt came in first followed by Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Washington? and Jefferson. Do you agree with that list or would yours be different?

Tina

-- posted by Tina_Coruth



Top 6.   Aug 20, 2002 8:58 AM

» Mugwump53 - Re: Re: Re: Fascinating series!

In response to message posted by Tina_Coruth:


What do you mean you need to get a NH citizen into the Presidency?! What about Jed Bartlett?

My list would be different than the one you saw. I would put Washington and Lincoln in the first two spots, but I do vacillate between the two. None of the others is even in contention for the two top spots in my mind. I do put FDR in the top five, but I don't tend to rate Jefferson as high as some others. Most of what Jefferson did was against hisbetter judgement, or his wishes. He always felt compelled by circumstances to do something he would have roasted anyone else for doing (Louisiana Purchase, for example) and many of his policies were disatrous (the Embargo Act). He also tried to reduce or eliminate the navy, until he needed it to fight the Barbary Pirates. Teddy is a good one. I also rate Polk very highly, as I do Wilson.

I wrote an article a while back on Presidential polls, and I agree fairly well with the 1962 list I included, except I rate John Adams much higher.

You can find the article at:

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/4996...

With deepest regards for the political leadership of the great state of New Hampshire, I am

YMHOS,

-- posted by Mugwump53



Top 7.   Aug 27, 2002 11:45 AM

» Tina_Coruth - Re: Re: Re: Re: Fascinating series!

In response to message posted by Mugwump53:
Hi John,
It was interesting to look at that list again. I was surprised that Wilson didn't make the top five on the list that I referred to. I wonder how many historian's preferences would make it onto a "man/woman in the street poll"?!?! That would probably be interesting, too.

Well, John, I have a big scoop to reveal and what better place than at Presidents and First Ladies.
Jeb Bartlett is an imposter!! I was suspicious when he spelled his name incorrectly -- he spells it Bartlet. But then I thought, well a lot of people's last names get altered through time. My own is one. Then, it turned out that he didn't know how to pronounce Concord -- the Capitol of New Hampshire. Only one person in his White House could pronounce it and she was killed off. That could be the reason she was killed off. The final clue came last season when Mr. Imposter was making a statement that ended with, "and leaf peepers -- whatever they are." I rest my case. No one from New Hampshire could be unaware of leaf peepers!!! Alas, we are still in need of a President from NH who can make up for Franklin Pierce!

Ok, my silliness is over, I promise. smile
Tina

-- posted by Tina_Coruth



Top 8.   Aug 27, 2002 4:42 PM

» Mugwump53 - Spinoff?

In response to message posted by Tina_Coruth:


Do I sense a spinoff? A show about a New Hampshire detective who uncovers imposters in high government offices? Hmmm......

-- posted by Mugwump53



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