THE OTHER AMERICAN VICE PRESIDENT

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  1. Tina_Coruth
  2. jerrib
  3. amkatb
  4. Mugwump53
  5. dragonmaster_us
  6. FortBrooke1824
  7. Mugwump53
  8. FortBrooke1824
  9. Mugwump53

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Top 1.   Jan 19, 2001 9:32 PM

» Tina_Coruth - Excellent article, John!

Excellent article, John! It is too bad that Stephens has been forgotten by the history books. He is an interesting personality, certainly worth learning about. I'm glad you are here to fill in these blank spaces. Thank you!
Tina

-- posted by Tina_Coruth



Top 2.   Jan 23, 2001 9:05 AM

» jerrib - What a great politician

who made his mark despite small stature and ill health. You have such a way, John, of making your folks come alive - love the ...brains in your stomach...(or some such thing) comment. And editing his own obituary, my, my! I think I'd have liked this fellow who fought against the odds.

Jerri

-- posted by jerrib



Top 3.   Jan 23, 2001 7:14 PM

» amkatb - Alexander Stephens...

It is refreshing to know, as a history buff, that this obscure fact of our history has not been forgotten... Vice President Alexander Stephens is very much a part of our history, and should be remembered as a diplomat, a great man, and a loose cannon!

-- posted by amkatb



Top 4.   Jan 24, 2001 5:10 AM

» Mugwump53 - Great Description

What a great description, "great man and loose cannon." You got it just right, and in a lot fewer words than I did {G}.

Glad you liked the article, and glad you took the time to post a note here. Please continue to participate as much as you wish. I always appreciate feedback and additional information, opinions, etc.

-- posted by Mugwump53



Top 5.   Mar 28, 2001 12:09 PM

» dragonmaster_us - Alexander Stevens

A very good overview of an ignored man in history. Too bad his ideas were never allowed to be expounded. It is forgotten today that the war was truly for States and Individual Rights. Slavery was a terrible institution, but, it was the mindset of the day and place. I have been in countries that were Police States that had more individual rights than we have in the US, but, no political freedoms. That is the trade we made with the Constitution. Mr. Stevens knew this and argued against it. Some day, his ideas will be evaluated in a cool light and then the question of Rights will be examined. Till then, we will not be The United States: We will remain the Country of Majority Will.

-- posted by dragonmaster_us



Top 6.   Jul 16, 2002 1:58 PM

» FortBrooke1824 - overall great job,however there is one statement

Mr. Cooper as always a superb job, however i beg to differ with you on one point. In regards to the Hampton Roads Peace Conference i do not believe that Lincoln met with Stephens. By doing so he would be recognizing the existence of the Confederate States of America as a foreign government in which Lincoln would never do. I remember reading that Lincoln would never meet with any Confederate delegates for this reason. However, in the short time i have chatted with you i am in awe of your knowledge. Looking forward to your answer.

-- posted by FortBrooke1824



Top 7.   Jul 16, 2002 4:14 PM

» Mugwump53 - Re: overall great job,however there is one statement

In response to message posted by FortBrooke1824:


The Hampton Roads Peace Conference was held on February 3, 1865 on board the steamer River Queen. The North was represented by President Lincoln and Secretary of State Seward. The South was represented by Vice President Stephens, Robert M.T. Hunter and J.A. Campbell. It was, obviously, unsuccessful. The South refused to consider any plan that did not include southern independence, and the north refused to consider any plan that did not include an end to the institution of slavery. So, Lincoln did meet with Confederate delegates, considering anything that might bring peace sooner.

It was at this conference that Lincoln told the quip that Stephens was the "smallest nubbin to come out of so much husk" as the very small Stephens took off his large and bulky cloak.

Many people think the same, that Lincoln never met with Confederates for fear of seeming to recognize them. Thanks for bringing this question to our attention.

-- posted by Mugwump53



Top 8.   Jul 16, 2002 5:46 PM

» FortBrooke1824 - i stand corrected, and i thank you

After reading about the Civil War for forty years i don't know how that one got passed me, but it did. I thank you and for the quip of Lincolns as i had not heard of that before either. LOL How very true his remarks must have been. I can only wonder what Stephens must have been thinking. LOL
You will have me laughing for the next hour.

-- posted by FortBrooke1824



Top 9.   Jul 17, 2002 3:45 PM

» Mugwump53 - Re: i stand corrected, and i thank you

In response to message posted by FortBrooke1824:


Always glad to spread a little laughter. Glad you liked it.

-- posted by Mugwump53



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