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  1. rahunter_nf
  2. crowder4

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Top 1.   Jun 1, 2001 6:44 AM

» rahunter_nf - Thought-provoking!

I've just read your first two articles of Abraham, Charlotte, and found them thought-provoking. However, I disagree with two conclusions that your drew in the second article.

When we read Hebrews chapter 7 we can be convinced that Melchizedek is actually Jesus Christ. Here are the things it says about Melchizedek: He is "by interpretation King of righteousness", "King of Salem, which is, King of peace", Without father or mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life, he is made like unto the Son of God, he abideth a priest continually, he is made "after the power of an endless life. This can be none other than Christ.

I don't think that Melchizedek was Jesus Christ. His being described as "like unto the Son of God" in Hebrews 7:3 seems to rule out his being the Son of God, but Jesus Christ was the Son of God. However, Melchizedek was certainly a prefiguration or type of Jesus Christ.

There is also a truth about tithes here. The act of tithing or giving a tenth part of your possessions to God was established before the law (the commandments given to Israel after the exodus from Egypt). Although we may be released from the law because Christ fulfilled the law, we are not released from the obligation of tithing because the law did not institute tithing.

I don't think that the act of tithing was established as an obligation on God's people before the Law. Abraham's giving tithes to Melchizedek seems to be a voluntary act, like his going to Egypt which you argued was a sin, rather than something required of him by God.

-- posted by rahunter_nf



Top 2.   Jun 24, 2001 10:07 PM

» crowder4 - Abraham

These are points many people disagree on. Fortunately they do not have a great influence on doctrine. I do however want to point out the phrase "having neither beginning of days nor end of life". This is used to describe Melchesidek. He was not a man. He had no decent, no father or mother. This is why I believe he was Jesus.

Also, check out the use of the word like in Rev. 1:13* And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. (AV) Although it says he was like the son of man, he was the son of man.

also Rev 14:14 uses like in reference to the Son of God in the same way. My point is that you can not rule it out because of the word like, because like is used in other places in the same way.

Tithing or rather not tithing is referred to in Malachi chapter 3 (every preacher's favorite tithing text) as robbing God. Certainly we can say that thievery is a sin. Tithing was practiced before the law, condemned after the law, and encouraged by Christ Mt.. 23:23 "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." (AV) emphasis (you should not leave it undone). This would be obligating.

However, to all our readers who are not Christians or who are discouraged by differing opinions among people who believe in the same book: people believe different things. All opinions should be concluded by your own personal study and walk with Jesus Christ. It is also natural to want others to believe like you do. After all, you believe it is true, you want every one to see what you see. When someone disagrees with you examine their points and see if you still think the same. And when we can not agree. . ."Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." (Romans 14) Thanks for the discussion Hunter! I appreciate and enjoy your input!

-- posted by crowder4



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