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» StefanC - Stefan Crisbasan I do not think that being pedophile should b
Stefan CrisbasanI do not think that being pedophile should be a criteria for death penalty. In any situation death penalty is not justified. No one has the right to take the life that God gave.
The pedophiles are given the chance to reconsider their actions which are inappropriate for human beings. It is a perverssion, a distortion of the likeness of God that is in us.
This is why that with that distorted likeness we cannot be full communion with God.
I hope everyone agrees with me...
Stefan
-- posted by StefanC
» KellyD_3 - DOWDIST OFFICIAL PROCLAIMATION ON FREEDOM OF RELIGION: Dowd
DOWDIST OFFICIAL PROCLAIMATION ON FREEDOM OF RELIGION:
Dowd-tzu: You are free to worship God, Allah, or whatever Heathen Diety floats your floatilla, so long as it does not involve the sexual exploitation of minors.
Q. What is a minor?
Dowd-tzu. Well, I'm not sure, but they are definitely at least under 16 years of age.
Q. What is the penalty for breaking this statute?
Dowd-tzu: I'm not sure, but it should be severe and the person who does so is definitely a sick !$@!#$^% in desperate need of a good boot in the hind quarters.
-- posted by KellyD_3
» StefanC - Stefan Crisbasan Mr. Kelly, I am glad you have sense of hu
Stefan CrisbasanMr. Kelly,
I am glad you have sense of humor. Mr. Alex Anders might find interesting your proclamation.
Two things is quite sure: religion do not treat people in this,(what about repentance), and homosexuality applies to all men regardless of age, in spite of te Governmental adhoc decisions.
By the way if the Government makes the religion of the people , changing the laws with flow of the market, we never find God.
I find that is not well founded to say that:
"All religions, so long as their members obey the law, should be allowed to practice in the United States free of government harassment.
So if I do not submit to te laws of this earth, I am punishable. This is anti-religious. The governments takes te place of God. People with faith in God do not accept these ideas.
Just to keep it short...
-- posted by StefanC
» not_him_again - Brian Carpenter Actually, all I am saying is that if the church
Brian Carpenter Actually, all I am saying is that if the church is law-abiding, the government should leave it alone.Kelly, your point is made, and laughter is a desirable side effect in any debate!
Stephan, there are pros and cons to the death penalty. While I personally support it, some do not with good reason. And I might point out that Jesus did not condemn the death penalty on the cross. Wouldn't that have been the logical place to do it?
If Hitler was still alive, what would be the appropriate penalty for him?
-- posted by not_him_again
» StefanC - Stefan Crisbasan Mr. Brian, I though you are not so ser
Stefan Crisbasan
Mr. Brian,
I though you are not so serious about death penalty. You may find it difficult to persuade me. I cannot conceive in any circumstance, including war, to take te liffe of a person, a human being. Not even to an insect. One among other reasons I want to be a monk.
Again I have to coment on "There are pros and cons" about different social issues. All that matter is God's point of view. Why? Because He knows farr better than us what is good, including for ourselves. There still allowed side effects like for example laughter.
You say that Jesus Christ did not condemned death penalty on the cross? Then why He said " "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."(Luke 23:34)?
The Crucifiction of Christ has a very deep meaning and necessity for humanity, that He freely accepted. It was necessary for Him to do that in order to accomplish our salvation. It was not an ordinary death penalty.
21 "From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and
suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third
day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto
thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou
savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men." (Luke 16:21-23)
Best regards,
Stefan
-- posted by StefanC
» not_him_again - Brian Carpenter In the scriptures, Jesus says "think not that I
Brian Carpenter In the scriptures, Jesus says "think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets."The death penalty for murder (and other crimes) is mosaic law. Now don't misunderstand me; I am not necessarily in favor of something just because it is Mosaic Law.
What I am saying is that Jesus gave at least an indication of tacit support for the Law, and thus the death penalty.
Your personal position is based on an honest compassion, and is admirable; but just as there must be lambs in the flock, so must there be shepherds and guard dogs to punish and if necessary kill the wolves. Your point about wanting to be a monk seems to me fair, Stephan. You do seem to be somewhat different than others here. Perhaps you do fill the criterion, "In the world, but not of it". I admire people who devote their lives to good and faith.
-- posted by not_him_again
» bagoas - The Church of Zeus and Ganymede (CZG) is not a pedophile organiz
The Church of Zeus and Ganymede (CZG) is not a pedophile organization for several reasons:First, the CZG recommends to its members that they violate no laws. Second, the CZG is concerned with loving relationships, not sexual relationships. If either of the participants in a loving relationship is under the legal age of consent, they should delay any sexual expression of their love until the time when it would be legal. There are, after all, perfectly legal affectionate behaviors that are allowed them.
Like democracy, the word pedophile comes from the Greek (pedo---child and phile--love). It is regrettable that a word that should mean a person who loves children is applied to those who rape and kill them. This is not the Almighty’s notion of love. The meaning of this term has become so distorted that it should not be used.
Zeus did not engage in sexual relations with Ganymede without his consent or prior to his attainment of the age of consent.
-- posted by bagoas
» StefanC - Because of the fact that at Suite101 Religion section is a gener
Because of the fact that at Suite101 Religion section is a general "Spirituality" topic that covers areas of my topic I find redundant and unnecessary to write anything about Orthodox Christianity at Suite101.I cancel my commitement as Contributing Editor for Orthodox Christianity topic as a protest to the lack of understanding and consideration from the managers of this section and company.
-- posted by StefanC
» Dana_Decker - Death Penalty
I agree with the death penalty, other than it isn't used enough. God, in my opinion, supports the death penalty..see Numbers 35 vs 16...But as far as pedophiles go..I can't say that I'd be against the death penalty there for a repeat offender, and most are. The only "cured" pedophiles are those that truly find God and become a different person.
-- posted by Dana_Decker
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