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Is Armageddon Just Around The Corner?Read the article this discussion is about
This archived discussion is "read only". » Pinky102 - A Point of the Issue Involved .This particular story is pernicious, as you write; but, in more ways than one. The roots of prejudice are found in religious belief. And this particular story is all about prejudice. This thousand year period of time you mention where Jesus rules as absolute monarch is interesting that all the Christians who would have been raptured are away from Earth in some place where they are celebrating what is called the "Feast of The Lamb". That celebration is the time the "Church" is waiting to be received by Jesus as their "Husband"--the church being the "Bride of Christ". So, what's going on down here on Earth while the Christians are away? Why the Jews are in their proper place and the nonChristian Gentiles are in their proper place. The Jews on the Holy Land of Israel and the NonChristian Gentiles in the rest of the world. The Jews will finally be recognized by every one as the "master race" of all peoples under their King Jesus who will rule every person in the world with an "iron rod" of authority. The Gentiles will be subservient to the superior Jews. This is a concept that teaches prejudice. Go figure!! -- posted by Pinky102 » RichardSpeaks - Re: A Point of the Issue Involved In response to Pinky102Great response. I hesitated to bring up the prejudice issue until discussion began, and you done begun it, so here goes: I once heard someone say that one of the great pleasures of heaven will be the ability to watch the sinners suffering in hell. They all get to thumb their noses and say 'I told you so.' As far as the whole 1000 year period and who gets ruled is concerned, if you piece together all the info from Daniel and all the info from Revelation, you get, as you know, contradictory info. For instance, why does God re-release Satan after that period? Who's left to be tempted, take the mark, and all that? Easy. And you nailed it. The whole story, process, and plan is about Jewish superiority. If Paul had left well enough alone, the little cult called Christian would have died out before it even got going. But Paul, the asshole, had to have his damn vision, tell everybody about it, get kicked around awhile by the Jerusalem church and finally rise to supremacy to bring a truly bastardized version of Christianity to the Gentiles. It wasn't supposed to happen that way. As Alexander Jablokov said, "The road to truth is long, and lined the entire way with annoying bastards." Hear, hear! -- posted by RichardSpeaks » reddeer20 - Re: Re: A Point of the Issue Involved In response to Re: A Point of the Issue Involved posted by RichardSpeaks:I am a Christian who does not believe in the rapture or the rest of the stuff you mentioned in your article. However, I don't believe that St. Paul anywhere taught these concepts either - or the supremacy of the nation of Israel. I thing people pulled certain phrases out of his writings and tried to use them to make whole cloth. Nor do I see the "rapture, etc." being taught in Daniel or Revelation. These concepts come from more vivid imaginations, who seek to reconcile them with the Bible by misinterpretation. -- posted by reddeer20 » RichardSpeaks - Re: Re: Re: A Point of the Issue Involved In response to Reddeer20You are absolutely right. There is no rapture mentioned in Scripture. And much of the other stuff is more deduced than literal. Funny,eh?? And Paul, indeed, did not teach these concepts. However, he did take the gospel to the gentiles; Jesus himself let it be known that this "truth" was for the Jews, not the gentiles. He put it something like "casting pearls before swine" and giving to the dogs that which was meant for the Children of God. Look it up yourself; it's in there somewhere. Paul claimed to have a vision of Jesus, who apparently told him to take the message to the rest of the world. That is reason enough for the Jews (orthodox or new Christian) not to believe him. The message, the promise, was meant for the Jews only. They are, after all, the Chosen People. That's why I call Paul into question. The Christian religion, as we have it today, and as we have had it down through the centuries, was not what Jesus intended. He came to feed the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Now, get this: there are those fundamentalist extremists that believe the evangelical Christian sects are decendants of the so-called Lost Tribes of Israel. That's how they justify the Christian message being shed abroad in the world: the bringing together of those lost tribes. Jesus, then becomes the Messiah only to the House of Israel. In other words, there is no true gentile, only a lost tribesperson. So, whaddaya think about all that?? -- posted by RichardSpeaks » Pinky102 - Re: Re: Re: Re: A Point of the Issue Involved In response to Re: Re: Re: A Point of the Issue Involved posted by RichardSpeaks:"So, whaddaya think about all that??" You know, this has gotta be the single most obvious area where any person should almost immediately see the falsity of the mainstreamers in popular Christianity. What a bunch of b.s.!!; Once you figure out what the big pitch is, you gotta walk away. Period. BTW, I left Michigan yesterday at 1:p.m. And, now, I'm in sunny Florida enjoying the sunshine. 8" of snow in Michigan yesterday, 75 degrees of sunshine in Boca Raton yesterday. It's chilly today. We drove over to the Gulf coast and are staying here a few days. Temps only in the 60s. Beautiful sunset. -- posted by Pinky102 » reddeer20 - Re: Re: Re: Re: A Point of the Issue Involved In response to Re: Re: Re: A Point of the Issue Involved posted by RichardSpeaks:>>>""casting pearls before swine" and giving to the dogs that which was meant for the Children of God. "<<<< I don't see how the pearls quote refers to Jews and Gentiles. I see it as an admonishment to not waste your time speaking the good news to those who despise and ridicule it. In the case where he tested a non-Jew by referring to giving to the dogs - when she said she would gladly settle for crumbs Jesus praised her for her faith and granted her desire. >>>>"The Christian religion, as we have it today, and as we have had it down through the centuries, was not what Jesus intended. He came to feed the lost sheep of the House of Israel."<<< I would also disagree with this. Going back to Abraham - yes, it was the grandson of Abraham, Jacob who was first called "Israel" - however it was to Abraham that this promise was also made - "Through your descendant (Jesus) ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH will be blessed.
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