Jesus: A problem for the Christian Right
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» hawknut - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it!
In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it! posted by _Boanerges_:
Review what you wrote about Dr. Meyers in your two previous posts: Your preacher sounds like a bleeding liberal to me...To me, he is a bleeding heart liberal
And then this: who labels and brands people according to [his] morality..
Who's labeling who, Wendell? Look in the mirror.
But, ministers are not politicians...
Really? Seems Robertson, Dobson, Falwell, et al, assume political roles when they attempt to dictate their morality as public policy.
Question: Does God accept homosexuality as a moral behavior, in which He ordains.. You have NEVER answered this question. Would you be willing to, today?
By discussing homosexuality with you, it only encourages your obsession with it. But I'll ask you a question: What ~specifically~ did ~JESUS~ have to say about homosexuality in the New Testament? (In case you're tempted, Paul and Jude are not NOT Jesus.)
-- posted by hawknut
» hawknut - Re: Your point is?...
In response to Your point is?... posted by _Boanerges_:Church Perspective from a Fifth-Generation Episcopalian
I would've expected as much from an Episcopalian church perspective.
-- posted by hawknut
» _Boanerges_ - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it!
In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it! posted by hawknut:Review what you wrote about Dr. Meyers in your two previous posts: Wendell: "Your preacher sounds like a bleeding liberal to me...To me, he is a bleeding heart liberal And then this: who labels and brands people according to [his] morality.."
Hawknut asks: Who's labeling who, Wendell? Look in the mirror.
Actually, he labeled me. Notice, I only responded to your link and article.
Wendell: But, ministers are not politicians... Hawknut: Really? Seems Robertson, Dobson, Falwell, et al, assume political roles when they attempt to dictate their morality as public policy.
Is not that what Arthurs article is, his political view? Why does he have the chance to do it, while you condemn those you do not (or may) agree with? Who are the hypocrites?
Wendell: Question: Does God accept homosexuality as a moral behavior, in which He ordains.. You have NEVER answered this question. Would you be willing to, today?
Hawknut: By discussing homosexuality with you, it only encourages your obsession with it.
Actually, I never did mention it. Notice in your article, in which I responded to, the 'pastor' ranted and raved about politics, then added his little line about persecuting these poor homosexuals. I only responded to his hatred of my position. So then.. I ask you.. Who said what?
But I'll ask you a question: What ~specifically~ did ~JESUS~ have to say about homosexuality in the New Testament? (In case you're tempted, Paul and Jude are not NOT Jesus.)
Quote me something from Jesus, not written by another man, but by Him and I will answer your question
W.....
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» _Boanerges_ - Re: Re: Your point is?...
In response to Re: Your point is?... posted by hawknut:I would've expected as much from an Episcopalian church perspective.
??... hmm.. I suppose I don't understand what you mean...
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» hawknut - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it!
In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it! posted by _Boanerges_:Actually, he labeled me.
Heh heh. You label yourself. Where is 'Wendell Leahy' written anywhere in the article?
then added his little line about persecuting these poor homosexuals. I only responded to his hatred of my position.
The article briefly mentioned gays, and you jumped into your usual tirade, ignoring all other issues presented.
Quote me something from Jesus, not written by another man, but by Him and I will answer your question
I asked you first, remember? No answer, ay?
-- posted by hawknut
» _Boanerges_ - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it!
In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it! posted by hawknut:Where is 'Wendell Leahy' written anywhere in the article?
We were not discussing me.. We were discussing your 'my obsession' comment...
The article briefly mentioned gays, and you jumped into your usual tirade, ignoring all other issues presented.
I am not interested in politics.. as per an argument.. But, I will mention it in my next message. However, concerning 'gays'.. If you would, please show me where I have brought up the issues of 'gay' in the last 2 years of being on the Suite. If you will notice, I have only responded to their rhetoric..
Wendell: Quote me something from Jesus, not written by another man, but by Him and I will answer your question
Hawknut: I asked you first, remember? No answer, ay?
Then... you asked a question which cannot be answered.
...W
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» _Boanerges_ - issues presented.
re: Political words of the season - Immorality, Mr Bushhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/dis...
Concerning your comment: "The article briefly mentioned gays, and you jumped into your usual tirade, ignoring all other issues presented"...
First, I really do not understand why the article mentions gays to begin with.. Hmm??... But, nevertheless.. concerning the article.
If you were the President of the USA, what would do you instead... In other words, what is it you want?.... From the article:
Well, I’m a great believer in moral values, but we need to have a discussion, all over this country, about exactly what constitutes a moral value — I mean what are we talking about?
Now.. in the 'homosexuality' thread, started by Phil, I asked 3 questions which equate to the above quote from the 'pastor' who wrote the article. I have basically asked the same thing, yet, no one seems to want to respond.... So.. now is your chance to explain to everyone interested to present your 'wants/desires' to achieve change. This should be in line with Arthur's article as well, as so we won't be veering off subject. Take all the time you need...
Thanks, Hawknut..
W...
-- posted by _Boanerges_
» plox - Think about it! ???
In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it! posted by hawknut:Whatever one constantly talks about is what he is constantly thinking about.
-- posted by plox
» hawknut - Re: Think about it! ???
In response to Think about it! ??? posted by plox:True nuff, Plox. Jesus said, "...For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." (Mat 12:34).
-- posted by hawknut
» hawknut - Re: Think about it!
In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Think about it! posted by _Boanerges_:If you would, please show me where I have brought up the issues of 'gay' in the last 2 years of being on the Suite.
I don't have to show anything. A review of topics and threads says it all. For the last two years, you are the only poster on Suite who ~consistently~ and ~continually~ focuses on homosexuality. The slightest mention of it in any article or reply, and you launch into your condemning sermons, quoting verses and adding lists of links. And here's where your mind ends up...
"How about teaching sexuality of:
1) with animals
2) groups of people (polygamy)
3) inanimate objects (canary, TV, computer, etc)
4) pedophilia
5) siblings, parents, first generational family members"
You claim that you've repented and now avoid homosexual behavior, but your mind still wallows in perversion (evidenced by your remarks above). You only ask 'questions' to keep your running sermon going, when others want to focus on the topic or develop other thoughts... which I do right now. Ya got it?
-- posted by hawknut
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