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Elimination Communication: No More Wearable Toilets!Read the article this discussion is about
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» Zanzi - A challenging article Do you think that children who have been diapered can "un-learn" having their cues seemingly ignored? Additionally, how would this work in the day care setting, especially considering that oftentimes there is no one-on-one care, but one caregiver is responsible for multiple infants?-- posted by Zanzi » msaraann - Re: A challenging article In response to message posted by Zanzi:I know that children can un-learn having their elimination signals ignored, because this is what happens with late-starting ECers, and also with conventional toilet trainers, although the approach is somewhat different as EC is communication-based and toilet training is outcome based. My daughter spent her first eight months in diapers, but adjusted very quickly to our diaperless EC relationship. She was as enthusiastic to communicate about her elimination needs as any other need. Sounds and sign language are easy ways for young babies to communicate. As far as day care goes, an EC family would need to find a care provider who is willing to meet the child's elimination needs in the EC way. It is a common idea among non-practitioners of EC to assume that the practice requires constant awareness of the child, constant watching and waiting for the child to signal, but this isn't necessarily true. Some attuning to the child's signals is required in the beginning of a new EC relationship, but once this has occurred, most caregivers say that they 'just know' when the child needs to eliminate. This is probably because the caregiver picks up the child's body language subconsciously, so the caregiver need only watch the child peripherally. ECing multiple infants may or may not be more challenging. I have two EC babies at my house, so I keep multiple potties around. We have never needed both at the same time. I've also run an in-home day care in the past. I didn't find that it was any more difficult to know when my daughter needed to use the potty. -- posted by msaraann » RaeJane - Re: Re: A challenging article In response to message posted by msaraann:I think I'd have to see it to believe it. Only because I have 2 small children and can't imagine doing this, cooking dinner, doing laundry, going to playgroup, grocery store, etc. etc. and this work out. -- posted by RaeJane » msaraann - Re: Re: Re: A challenging article In response to message posted by RaeJane:I haven't approached EC as something that I am attempting to teach my daughter, but rather as responding to her needs as they arise just as I would respond to her signal that she is hungry or needs to be held. At this point, she is 24-months-old and potty-independent. This occurred naturally for her, in her own time. It was not something that I pushed for. As for diapers, we didn't use them after eight months, but a lot of EC parents do use them. Baby's all start out signaling their need to eliminate whether wearing a diaper or not, and whether or not their signals are responded to. It's only with consistent non-response that they stop signaling. EC is not eary conventional training. The approach is completely different. It's about the process of responding to our babies' needs, not about achieving the outcome of a potty-trained child. As you said, children will all come to potty-independence in their own time. -- posted by msaraann » biogardener - Practical method I am in the process of writing an article of how this method worked in my family, and I am adding a suggestion which should help people who did not grow up with it. The article is not finished, but it will give you an idea of how to go about the training from another mother who has used it.-- posted by biogardener
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