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Of Night Owls and Early BirdsRead the article this discussion is about
This archived discussion is "read only". » LiloD - I am an early riser and a nightowl, both. Usually I get by with I am an early riser and a nightowl, both. Usually I get by with 6 hrs. of sleep. As I was born around 1 am it sort of makes sense - I go to bed and then read for a while, until I get sleepy. Get up at the crack of dawn, started that sort of in "self defense" when the children were young and husband had to go to work early - I DO need some time by myself after I wake up, even now, living alone, I like to mope around for a while in the morning.My cats and the dogs understand perfectly and make no demands on me until I start talking to them. -- posted by LiloD » LiloD - Traute, to add to my previous comments: I talked to my daughter Traute, to add to my previous comments: I talked to my daughter about the birth hour/sleepy time idea, and she couldn't relate, she was born at noon - then we got to thinking: both of us were born in Germany, so would the time-difference apply? She says she always got sleepy around 9 pm, and we live in California, a 9 hr. time difference.What do you think? -- posted by LiloD » biogardener - According to all the immigrants I have questioned, including mys According to all the immigrants I have questioned, including myself, the body seems to adjust quickly to the move east of west, just as it does after jetlag. It doesn't last long. Mind you, traveling east gives me a lot more trouble (several days) than traveling west (only hours).It did take me several months to reset my timeclock after coming to Canada, in fact, I had the occasional setback even years later. Since I wrote this article, I have added one more question to my research inquiry: "When is your peak working time." It seems to start 12 hours after birth, but I don't have a large enough sample to come to firm conclusions. Lilo, re your daughter, I would say this: It is much easier to see the pattern when the birth hour falls in the morning or in the evening. The people who were born in the middle of the day have a hard time seeing the pattern, because they have never had a chance to relax at that time. They were either in school or at work and had to keep on going. That may be true for your daughter. -- posted by biogardener » CarolWallace - For me peak work time is definitely not 12 hours after my birth For me peak work time is definitely not 12 hours after my birth hour. I do my best work starting around midnight. But part of that may be training. I am a chronic avoider. So I wait until the last possible hour to start things and still make my deadline or still get the job done and get some sleep. Having insisted on working down to the wire on deadline has accustomed my brain to getting sharpest of all at midnight. <img src="http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/rhubarb.gif" alt="rheum" align=left> -- posted by CarolWallace » BettyPine - About your theory of birth time and sleepiness That's pretty interesting. Is it completely your own theory?I was born at 10:30 a.m. in Portland, Oregon. I like to sleep lots Except now I have begun writing that has changed. Bedtime is same, but I get up gladly around 6:00 a.m. to get on the computer and work. For over 20 yrs. I have done child care, and believe me I couldn't rouse myself willingly to get up in the mornings... Anyway, this is an interesting topic area you have. I'll be back Traute. -- posted by BettyPine » CrabApple - Night Owl Or Early Bird. Traute,I have been told that I was born at 4PM. I don't think I fit into your equation. I usually rise fairly early, earlier in summer than winter, and go to bed after 11PM, if I stay up later I get a second wind after mid-night and can stay awake for hours. I find I am not good at having a day-time sleep and never really feel the need.I am my most creative in the afternoon, but work the hardest in the morning. I usually have boundless energy. My cat goes outside at night, and comes inside in the morning, he wants a love and his breakfast and settles down to sleep all day till dinner time, he has dinner, goes out for a short time, comes in and enjoys the evening with us before going out for the night. My son was born at 2AM, he rises fairly early and needs to go to bed before 11PM. He could do with a sleep around 4PM but cannot because he is at work. Both my daughters were born in the middle of the day. One rises late and goes on till late, quite often she will have an afternoon snooze if convenient. The other is early to bed early to rise, and never sleeps during the day. I don,t know what time my husband was born, but he rises approx. 8AM and goes to bed between 11PM and midnight, he is not an easy sleeper. I don't know if any of this helps you with your research, we all seem to be different. Sweet dreams. Crabapple. -- posted by CrabApple » Goddess_Azariah - I'm mixed up, then I was born at 11:30 at night, not by C-section, and my best productivity is between 8 pm and 1 am. I usually start to get sleepy by 2:30 am, and then sleep until 11:30 am every morning regardless of whether I fell asleep before or after midnight. I can stay up until 6 am and not have a problem getting up at 11 am, and still go all night with my projects. I love to sleep, tho, and if I go to sleep before 11 pm, I will sleep the full 12 hours. Sleep is good.Is there some relationship with rising times and birth times, as well? -- posted by Goddess_Azariah » bluemerle1960 - You pegged me! I was born early morning. I do my best writing between 6pm-midnight. It is nothing for my husband to get up at 5am for work and find I am still awake because I just laid down. Haven't been able to break the habit and with my kids, I now run on about 5 hrs sleep a night.Found your article very interesting. -- posted by bluemerle1960 » beekay - Think you're on to something there.... Traute,Think you're on to something there, not sure exactly what. I was born at 7 in the morning & I can tell you all through high school, I only learned through some kind of intellectual osmosis until 10 am hit. The smell of food around 10:30 really woke me up. I have always NORMALLY required 9-10 hrs of sleep and that is when I am NOT emotionally drained, physically sick. If I awake too soon without insufficient sleep, I am actually violently nauseated, gag & not nice at all. I am no good for the rest of the day. I have lived with shame, guilt & false accusations regarding my life/sleep patterns. It is one thing when the world doesn't understand; it is quite another when one's own mother who, for most of her life, was an earlier and pleasant sunshine riser, cannot understand why you are not EXACTLY like her! (and makes an issue of yours by informing everyone; next thing you know, you have to face false accusations & negative name calling. No matter that you DO get your things done & your house is immaculate...you are still lazy & lack ambition if you don't go with the flow). In these later years, she now seems to think it is her "fault" that I have different sleep patterns because she used to wait tables in the late hours while pregnant with me. Poor mom! It is not her fault and she needs to quit viewing this thing as a defect! I am also a person who has a specific energy cycle that runs like a markings on a graph. There would be several days or more of natural high energy, followed by a more passive, reflective pattern for about the same amount of time or a bit more. I think it's as though I have to digest what I had experienced. Productivity varies slightly. Most always more productive at nights if I am not emotionally stressed. Then, I am pretty much tired ALL of the time. My husband, a C-section baby, has had the weirdest sleep patterns of any person I had ever know...just about drove me nuts...I'm serious. Three hours here, three hours there, up, down, down, up...used to get only 5 hrs. of sleep, now, with health problems, gets about 7. The one child is c-section at 3 am & yes, she has roamed around at all sorts of hours! I have heard that one can "reset" his/her sleep clock; yet, I will tell you this: I highly doubt that I ever would become productive until after 10 am, probably a nap somewhere between 2 and 4, and go at it again. It has been as though I've been dealing with two sleep cycles! I do believe diet, physical & emotional states, environment and yes, even seasons, to a degree, have some bearing on all of this. The only thing that I can state for sure is this: I am basically a night owl! This is interesting. -- posted by beekay Please follow the guidelines set forth in the Suite101 Posting Etiquette when adding to the discussion. |
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