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The MMR Vaccine and Autism: Is there a connection?Read the article this discussion is about
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» HealthMom - Vaccinations I am appalled that you would “choose” not to vaccinate your child!What kind of mother are you? Are you only thinking of yourself? You stated that you “might” choose to vaccinate after your child reaches the age of two, well that will be even harder on the baby. When an infant receives his/her vaccinations the pain is forgotten very quickly (in a matter of minutes). The older the child is, the harder it is to receive the vaccination. You appear to be a woman with too much time on her hands. You sit around reading too much BAD information regarding several topics. You believe what you WANT to believe. Whatever justifies your blind logic. My husband is a scientist. His JOB is to test vaccinations. He doesn’t work for the government NOR does he work for any manufacturer. He is an independent contractor. These diseases are on the rise again BECAUSE of mothers like you! I wish you luck on your decisions. Note from the Editor: Thank you. -- posted by HealthMom » Laraliz - Re: Vaccinations In response to message posted by HealthMom:Dear HealthMom, Thank you for visiting my topic at Suite101. I appreciate hearing the views of other mothers even when they do not agree with my philosophies. I can understand why you feel it is upsetting that some parents may choose to postpone vaccinations or decide not to vaccinate at all. Coming from your life experience and your world-view, it makes sense for you to choose to vaccinate your children at whatever time and pace your physicians recommend the vaccinations. I, on the other hand, hold a different set of values and base my decision on careful consideration after reading a multitude of information and scientific research from BOTH sides of the vaccination issue. I do not think that anyone would consider this using what you call, "blind logic." I realize that Vaccination is a very hot topic and can spur very emotionally charged reactions from people, so I don't take your criticisms personally. To address your concerns about vaccinating later, here is my thinking on that: while the momentary pain of the needle when receiving a vaccination may be more upsetting to a toddler or an older child (toddlers and older children STILL receive "booster" shots at these ages, so it's not as if they will not be receiving needles on their pediatric visits), I feel what is more important is that at this point the child's immune system will have developed and matured to the point where it can better handle the bombardment of concentrated doses of the vaccines -- and therefore make it safer for the overall health of the child and reduce the risk of auto-immune disorders. I understand that you do not agree with this line of thinking, and that is fine -- but that is why my husband and I are choosing to postpone our final decision on vaccination and have chosen not to vaccinate our children as infants. I am curious to know if you consider any information contrary to your beliefs to be "BAD" information? It is this kind of thinking that keeps people from learning. I do my best to always keep an open mind. I am not AGAINST vaccines -- I just prefer not to expose my children to vaccines at such a young age. To answer your question about what kind of mother I am: I am a mother who loves her child. I am a a mother who carefully considers every decision that will affect my child's health and well-being. I am a mother who chooses to inform herself on every aspect and every angle of healthcare, nutrition and childcare I can possibly get my hands on -- perhaps you envy the time I have allotted for this activity -- but you can make the time to do so, as well, if you wish to. And, finally, I am a mother, who is constantly seeking out new information and who is willing to keep an open mind when it comes to decisions about such things as vaccination, the family bed, extended breastfeeding AND the parenting choices of all parents. I am sorry that you feel it is necessary to place blame on others for the "ills of society". Diseases like measles never being completely wiped out cannot possibly be the fault of young mothers choosing not to vaccinate their children. I know of two cases of measles among the children of two personal friends of mine -- both of those children RECEIVED their MMR Vaccinations BEFORE they contracted measles. Can you explain that? My daughter, however, has not had one illness since her birth -- not that I attribute that to anything I have specifically done, although I am confident that being breastfed for her entire first year of life and paying careful attention to nutrition, cleanliness and limiting her exposure to too many other small children has been very helpful in achieving this. Once again, I respect the decisions of other parents to vaccinate -- and I respect your opinion regarding vaccinations. But let us not attack one another personally just because we do not agree. I wish you peace and joy in your own family and health for all of your children. Blessings, -- posted by Laraliz » hsara - Re: Vaccinations Hi Healthmom. My husband is also a scientist, and together we have decided NOT to vaccinate our child. Are WE thinking only of ourselves? Certainly, we are being selfish. We aren't willing to risk our daughter's health and development with unsafe vaccines just because "everyone's doing it."As for vaccinating infants vs. older children, I like the idea that an older child can understand "why" he is being given a shot. Older children can also verbalize any side-effects they may be having from an immunization. Babies don't have these opportunities. Instead, they are blindly carted into the doctor to endure a painful shot loaded with unhealthy chemicals, and then they have to make their parents guess how they are feeling for days afterward via screaming, and changes in sleep pattern and responsiveness. It doesn't seem like a fair shake to me. What I find especially interesting about immunizations is that they don't always protect an immunized person from contracting a particular disease. Oftentimes, these vaccines actually GIVE a person the disease they are purported to provide immunity from. It makes sense that it would work this way, as vaccines introduce a tiny amount of a disease into a human body in an effort to create antibodies against it. Of course certain people are not going to create enough antibodies, and they will end up with the disease. And in other cases, the immunizations aren't effective, leaving an "immunized person" unprotected and a ready receiver to these diseases. Thinking about this, it doesn't make sense to me that the unvaccinated alone can be held accountable for the proliferation of "these diseases." If this were true, and vaccines were truly safe and effective, I doubt the immunized majority would feel bothered by "mothers like us." Finally, I want to commend Lara K. on providing some compelling information on the vaccine safety issue. It's a difficult topic for discussion, but I think it is an important one regardless of stance. As parents, the best thing we can do is fight for the safety of our children with both eyes open. -- posted by hsara » Laraliz - News about the MMR Vaccine & Autism MMR Vaccine and Autism - an updateDear PROVE Members, You may use this note to answer questions regarding recent media coverage As many of you are already aware, yesterday, the Institute of Medicine ===== Contact: 703-938-0342
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), a non-profit organization The Institute of Medicine Committee concluded that "the evidence favors "The Committee clearly acknowledged the biologic plausibility that MMR NVIC has long advocated that scientific research into vaccine-associated "The conclusion of the IOM Committee that current scientific evidence ==== http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010424... Tuesday April 24 11:06 AM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters Health) - A federal expert committee said Monday it has Parents should not stop vaccinating their children, and there should be no ``No vaccine is 100% safe,'' said Marie McCormick, chair of Harvard Public The 15-member panel, convened by the prestigious Institute of Medicine The biologic data are ``fragmentary,'' said McCormick, but down the road, This is the first report issued by the committee, convened in January. The Panel members, including epidemiologists, pediatricians, biostatisticians, The MMR report was in response to growing public concerns that the vaccine Autistic-like syndromes first appear around age 2, the same time the MMR is Public concern was heightened by a 1998 report in the journal The Lancet. A The researcher did not make the same link, but the observation raised In addition to The Lancet study, committee members reviewed all available Finally, the panel commissioned its own epidemiological study, which did not But panel member Steven Goodman, a pediatrician and biostatistician from The committee said future research could be made stronger by trying to focus -- posted by Laraliz » celticstock - Re: Vaccinations My son is now 2 1/2. At 6 weeks, he had his first pertussis shot. He had extreme allergic reactions to it. He was coded as allergic. His next DPT shot was to be without the P. The medic giving the shot was unhappy because he had to get a special shot. He made it clear he was not happy. At Connor's 3rd shot, the nurse read the warning, took him in the other room and against my wishes and the statement, gave him pertussis anyway. She said afterwards, that his reaction wasn't strong enough to merit not giving it to him. We can do nothing about that because we are military.After that, I watched the pertussis carefully. Of course I can never really know what is actually in the tubes they stick into my sons arms. At 18 months, they gave him MMR. Two weeks later, he stopped talking and started beating and clawing himself. Understand, that up until this time he was perfectly normal and very bright. He has since been diagnosed as having SID, sensory integrate dysfunction a "disease" of the mind in the same family but lesser than autism. I have since studied the results, I hold a degree in both science and engineering and am fully capableable of understanding lab results. The results I have found are this. 1.The benefits of shots cannot be proven in any way. Regardless of what one is taught to believe. Almost all of todays shots that "protect" one from disease, were developed after that disease was already in it's downfall. So, if I have another child, you can be assured that I WILL NOT VACCINATE that child until that child has at least reached the age of two. More likely yet, I will probably wait on all vaccinations until my child is going into a school system and then they may only receive those I feel are "safe". Connor will not be receiving every darn needle they point in his direction anymore either. Fot the record, almost none of these diseases we are vaccinating against are fatal today. Measles, Chicken Pox ect. are only uncomfortable not fatal, I prefer uncomfortable to brain damaged any day. -- posted by celticstock » Laraliz - Re: Re: Vaccinations In response to message posted by celticstock:Thank you for posting this message. My heart sank as I read your message. I feel great empathy for you and your family. I cannot imagine being subjected to the kind of strong-arm tactics of the U.S. Military which you have had to endure -- and with the horrible pain they have now caused you and your family. I would be enraged. I think it is very important for you to keep telling your story to as many people as you can. Post your story on every bulletin board you can find. You might find some great support at the Mothering Boards if you are interested in that sort of thing. I encourage you to use your experience and knowledge about vaccines to help others more fully understand the risks. Thanks again for posting your story. Email me if you would like to discuss this further: natural_mama@msn.com -- posted by Laraliz
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