Treatments for "Klebsiella pneumoniae"
- Ruthie6
- NealC
- notchakotay
- notchakotay
- NealC
- msteck
- marymed2
- NealC
- drzucco
- rjcalungsod
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» notchakotay - Re: Re: What is "the" treatment??
In response to message posted by NealC:According to the University of Florida Medical School, " The autoimmune disease, ankylosing spondylitis, is thought to be a possible sequela of Klebsiella infection." This is part of the discussion of the disease on theeir Medinfo page at http://www.medinfo.ufl.edu/year2/mmid/bm...
Apparently it is thought that the disease is triggered in those with a particualr gene (and a few people with normal genes) by an otherwise insignificant infection, and Klebs may be one of the organism that can do this.
-- posted by notchakotay
» notchakotay - Re: Re: What is "the" treatment??
In response to message posted by NealC:In my previous post, the editing program truncated the URL. So, here it is again, but in two parts. To go to the referenced Web page, paste the two halves togther:
http://www.medinfo.ufl.edu/year2
/mmid/bms5300/bugs/klebpne.html
-- posted by notchakotay
» NealC - Re: Re: Re: What is "the" treatment??
In response to message posted by notchakotay:Yes there is an association between Klebsiella and this autoimmune disease. Certain people have a genetic cell marker - Human Leucocyte Antigen B27 (HLA-B27). They are more likely to develop ankylosing spondylitis. However, not everyone with this genetic marker and Klebsiella in their intestines develops ankylosing spondylitis.
The desire to eliminate certain organisms from our microflora in hopes of eliminating certain health problems is not new. Candida was the big culprit 5-10 years ago. Now Klebsiella is on the list of organisms to eliminate because it may cause problems. Just because there is an association between Klebsiella and one autoimmune disease does not mean that it causes all other difficult to eliminate health problems. You just spend lots of money on products that promise to cure lots of illnesses. The products may work however I have not read any documented peer-reviewed studies that have demonstrated that any of the products have eliminated Klebsiella and if they have that the disease has gone away.
Many times if you are good to your body: rest (8 hrs of sleep at night), eat good foods (stop eating the fast foods, soda pop and already prepared foods), and exercise (walk, run, 3-5 times per week) your body will heal itself.
If a person smokes, drinks too much alcohol, is overweight they will in time have health problems. We for years and years damage our bodies with poor behaviors and then look for some simple solution to get well again when illness hits. It isn't always that simple and many times we need to stop the poor behaviors.
Unfortunately, most people want the quick fix and will pay a lot to get it. Years of damaging our bodies may take years of good health practices to get back to "normal". Even then sometimes the damage we do to ourselves is irreversible. I do not believe that eliminating Klebsiella will solve everyones health problems and buying products to do so is likely to be a waste of time and money.
-- posted by NealC
» msteck - Re: Re: Re: Re: What is "the" treatment??
Just goes to show you how much the doc's really take the time to research and learn from the pros. Parasites (whether bad bacteria, virus, worms, fungi) + environmental poisons (in food, furnishings, air, hygiene, cleaning products etc) are the cause for many health problems today. You didn't see illness in simpler days like you do nowadays. Today, we are being pushed to take drugs that may cure one symptom but give you 10 others. Wake up. Klebsiella can be very bad. It can cause pneumonia, meningitis, septic shock etc if they escape the gut, enter the blood stream and grow out of control...especially for people with comprised immune systems like myself. I don't have aids or any other disease but i have a terribly low white count for an unknown reason. I have a systemic bacterial infection with klebsiella and citrobacter freundii. The bacteria escaped my gut and built a wall of fat around my right lung and liver, which is currently causing me heart palpitations, digestive problems, and swelling. The enzymes these critters secrete have been so toxic and overwhelming to my body that my liver is swollen and i have chemical sensitivities and food intolerances. I have so much of them that i can actually feel the little critters swimming around on the left side in the front and back...they are flagellate. I go to my doc tomorrow to discuss long term treatment. So far, great plains lab shows sensitive to caprylic acid and cipro as well as some others. I bought the caprylic acid and oregano oil immediately felt some relief. Probiotics also help but only for the gi tract.-- posted by msteck
» marymed2 - klebsiella pneumoniae
I am a member of a jail medical staff and we have an inmate that had a throat culture done, and came back with normal flora, however it also said he has an abundant growth of klebsiella pneumoniae. We are wondering how he could get this bacteria, he has been incarcerated since 2001. Also what would be any possible treatments?Thank you,
Mary
-- posted by marymed2
» NealC - Re: klebsiella pneumoniae
In response to message posted by marymed2:Klebsiella is normal flora in the intestines and it is rumored that some inmates force other inmates to ingest fecal matter. Sort of a I am tougher than you are so now you must eat feces. This could be one way the prisoner got it. Another way is that people frequently do NOT wash their hands after using the toilet and he could have infected his own throat. There is no need to eliminate the organism from his throat.
-- posted by NealC
» drzucco - Re: Re: What is "the" treatment??
In response to message posted by NealC:My wife had lung surgery in 2001 and developed an absess after radiation treatment, the surgeon had to do a Klaggett procedure to let the absess drain. We took a culture of the mucous and found Klebsiella and Proteus bacteria (g-rod). The surgeon says my wife will have to live the rest of her life with this drainage on her lung. My question to you is there a procedure to wash or instillate a antibiotic like aminoglycosides or cephalosporins into the fistula to rid the infection? Please respond, I'm afraid this klebsiella is eating away of the lung tissue.
-- posted by drzucco
» rjcalungsod - S.O.S. Klebsiella Attacks!
Two years ago, my daughter was hospitalized because of rashes all over the body and plenty of boils in the feet and hands. The doctors were undecided on the diagnosis but after culturing the pus they decided that it was K. Pneumoniae infection. Now, I am very much alarmed because my youngest son has shown the same symptoms as my eldest daughter. And based on my readings and research, the disease/bacteria is nasty!Please help me understand the disease better and the cure.
Thanks!
-- posted by rjcalungsod
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