Not Fair in Love and War
- archie2000
- WeaselGirl
- jerrib
- WhysWords
- art_lem
- vivavoce
- DesertLight
- neo111
- neo111
- Tallegalla
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» archie2000 - Re: AMEN!!!!! But how do we get people to listen??
In response to message posted by WhysJeannie:Why, I never knew this could happen, not in my wildest dreams. This is certainly an eye-opener for me.
Archie Sicat
http://archie-sicat.tripod.com
-- posted by archie2000
» WeaselGirl - What an excellent topic!
Anne, thanks for created this much-needed site! Your article brought tears to my eyes and made me think - I'm sure you'll open many eyes here!-- posted by WeaselGirl
» jerrib - Welcome to Suite 101
First, I want to say I'm sorry for the loss of your father and what you had to go through. Secondly, I want to thank you for getting the word out here at Suite101.com. This is not only a problem in your country, but also the US. The old double-standard from a different viewpoint.Glad to have you here. I'm subscribing.
Jerri
-- posted by jerrib
» WhysWords - Re: Re: AMEN!!!!! But how do we get people to listen??
In response to message posted by archie2000:This stat of "95%" has been used by women's groups for years. I began to get suspicious when I began sheltering women in my own home and I witnessed first hand what truly violent women these victims supposedly were. Then I found myself running from a deadly husband and amidst hundreds of "abused" women in shelters and low-income housing, I only met two who were not contributers to their own abuse or not abusive themselves.
FURTHER from that, I continuously met men and STILL continously meet men who were victims of violence and emotional abuse by women and were too damn ashamed to admit it and couldn't get help when they did-they were laughed at. So I contacted THE central clearing house for all domestic violence studies and found the original one the women's groups so love to use as ways to get massive funding and to bash men and to haul women into their propoganda machine, hey, birth control works so lets all live like bitches in heat and blame the men for any suffering consequences. Well three babies and ten miscarriages for me says birth control does NOT work, rampant sexual disease endangers my teens and my sons and my father and my brothers didn't do nothing but be gentlemen and treat women like queens.
It's nto like I wanted to see this, I was deep in man-hating mode and wanted to revel in it, I was the victim dammit! I did NOt want to see their side of the story. When you get down to it, my X was a victim of abuse by his mother, as was his father-who hates me just for being female, just as my X ultimately was compelled to feel.
I found the truth behind that stat and also found that it is the ONLY one (as of three years ago) on men as victims. I get handed surveys with every clinic visit and asked if I'm being abused, do these surveys and fact finding rescue operations seek out abused men? NO.
I worked for campus police and once found myself in a room full of irate police officers for a discussion I started, how come the women will admit to bashing the man in the head with the frying pan but they have to arrest the men because he held her off from hitting him a second time and she gets to run off to get legal aide and shelter and hide the kids from him? Not surprisingly, as I got to know these men, many of them were also victims of abuse, as they tried to approach female officers with the truth of the 95% stat, they were suddenly subjected to verbal abuse that, if the tables were turned, would have got them fired for sexual harrassment and assault. Complaints of the women's verbal assault got them laughed at.
It's not funny. I have a fiance who is every bit the gentleman. He opens my doors for me, walks on the road side between me and cars, etc. I don't see this as him thinking I'm weak, I accept it for the way he intends it for the way all men intend it, as worship.
Feminists did NOT do women a favor post suffrage. They got carried away. Social mores that protected a woman are gone. Children live in poverty because women were told they had a *right* to be *free*.
Now women in general don't have power as the hand that rocks the cradle, only mean and nasty women have power- and the way they choose to raise their kids or assist other single mothers to raise their kids with anti-men lives bears thinking but it's too uncomfortable to think about.
I've got two boys and their father heavy on my heart as it is. Women oriented law aides and abets their daily abuse. She tried for years to push him to hit her, she beat the hell out of him, she loves the challenge of forcing a controlled man beyond his control, gets a high when a man beats her up, that she could have that much power of him that he would lose all self-control at her command, then she gets another high when the world pities her as the victim and punsihes her abuser. She never managed with my friend but after more than seven years divorce keeps plugging away, I fear her oldest son will end up in jail for killing her because hse is working on him and the two boys are in daily danger because she loves to sneak drugs into their system. She always gets free lawyers, he always pays court fees. No evidence ever matters to the court.
Down off the soap box now. I'm too saddened to go on.
Jeannie
-- posted by WhysWords
» art_lem - Re. Not Fair in Love and War
Thank you, Anne. Much information on familyviolence can be found at
http://www.fathersforlife.org
A long list of references can be found at
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~familyop/DV/ass...
Art
-- posted by art_lem
» vivavoce - This One Is So Powerful
I truly hope you will consider submitting this one to the "Just Say No to Abuse" event.Awareness needs to be raised that the protections that are offered, while good, are only a start. Additionally, the protections are lopsided. There are large populations that are overlooked.
Men is one of those populations. Elders is another. Parents (battered and abused by the child who may have learned the behavior from the other parent or even the grandparent(s)) is yet another.
They are being denied access to simple support mechanisms established by the Australian government for victims of abuse and, with no support for those who do come forward, the likelihood of the issue being placed on the national agenda is highly unlikely.
I hope you have something coming up soon that will explain what these are.
Well done.
-- posted by vivavoce
» DesertLight - Re: AMEN!!!!! But how do we get people to listen??
In response to message posted by Jeannie-Not :I have many links to info on DV and support groups for men at my site. I am always available to answer questions as well.
Trudy W. Schuett
Publisher, The DesertLight Journal
The e-zine of the international men's rights movement
http://www.desertlightjournal.homestead....
-- posted by DesertLight
» neo111 - There are ways to make people listen to male victims of DV
As founder of man2man (address below) as a member of ManKind and as Vice-Chair of Mens Aid I work with victims of female domestic violence every day. Part of my work includes writing hundreds of e-mails to everyone I can think of who may be able to help raise the profile of male victims. That is something we can all do to help and if anyone wants to get involved they just have to contact me at grolph12@hotmail.com and I will show them how they can do just that.Men have suffered appallingly for too long. Almost every major scientific study carried out over the last thirty years, almost without exception, has shown that men suffer EQUAL amounts of DV as women do. (Details of these studies are on the man2man web site). However, politicians have ignored the problem and even when faced with this huge amount of evidence (over 150 studies) still refuse to help. When I realised that this was happening I changed tack and began to contact ordinary folks. I wrote to educationalists, professors, union leaders, teachers, church organisations and on and on. This is creating a ground swell of dissent and people are asking why politicians are not acting. I also contact tv producers and, consequently have appeared on tv a number of times raising these matters and bringing them to the attention of a wider audience. In other words, individuals CAN make a difference if they are willing to roll up their sleeves and get stuck in.
If you want to join in the fight to get justice for male victims of DV contact me and join either my organisation or one near you.
George Rolph
Web Master
man2man http://www.man2man.themenscenter.com
-- posted by neo111
» Tallegalla - Recovery
I have just logged in after a couple of years' away from my writing. I was glad to see that this topic is still generating some discussion.Regards
Anne
-- posted by Tallegalla
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