Gardening the Self

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  1. bonfmcc
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  6. plox
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Top 10.   Oct 19, 2004 5:42 AM

» bonfmcc - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo posted by CarolWallace:

I have been reading recently about Mary Magdalene. It strikes me that there is something significant in the current interest in her. Of course, legends have been around Europe, particularly in southern France, associating her with the Black Madonna. It strikes me that perhaps the interest in her is the need to balance the all too pure Virgin Mary with the shadow side of the Great Mother. I haven't really thought about soap operas, but I wonder how the female characters in them might play out.
The writer I was reading talked about Princess Diana and the fact that people liked her so well because she, like Mary Magdalene, was flawed and more human. This gives me much to think about.

-- posted by bonfmcc



Top 11.   Oct 26, 2004 2:23 PM

» Carol Wallace - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo posted by bonfmcc:
We do seem to need that darker side for balance, don't we? What were you reading? It sounds fascinating.

I was going to suggest that you do something on the shadow since you were looking for article ideas, but I see you've already done a few pieces on that. But how about personality types? I always found that intriguing, and when I taught it to my students they were fascinated both to discover their own types and how it seemed to help explain themselves.

The way Jung approached dreams is also interesting. Well - so much of what he did was interesting it can be hard to settle for a single topic!

-- posted by Carol Wallace



Top 12.   Oct 27, 2004 5:51 AM

» bonfmcc - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo posted by CarolWallace:

Thanks Carol. All good suggestions. I think my current problem with deciding what to write is that I seem to be going in too many directions at once. I started an article but found myself rambling and jumping around. Of course, that is not altogether different from some of Jung's writing. Maybe I just need to stay with what I'm doing on this current article until I figure out what it is trying to say. But I will keep your suggestions in mind for the future. I don't think I've done anything on personality types, but yes, it is an interesting topic that I have done some study on.

-- posted by bonfmcc



Top 13.   Oct 27, 2004 6:20 AM

» tamara_peters - Fascinating!

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bravo posted by bonfmcc:

Hi Bonnie and Carol. I finally made it over here.

Bonnie, I enjoyed this thoughtful and interesting article. I'd like to spend more time reading here, which I'll try to do when I'm able - just too little time for that lately. sad

I can't even seem to start an article anymore. My mind is also going in too many directions at once. The minute I even think about it I start to panic and freeze up. Argh! Help! LOL

I'd also be interested in reading an article on personality types. FMers are generally known to be Type-A personality types. I'm wondering what your take on this is?

Regards,
Tamara

-- posted by tamara_peters



Top 14.   Oct 27, 2004 1:25 PM

» Carol Wallace - Re: Fascinating!

In response to Fascinating! posted by tamara_peters:
Jungian personality types are a different sort of animal, Tamara. It first looks at how extroverted or introverted you are by nature, and then looks at which of the following traits rules your behavior - thinking, feeling, perception or intuition. If you've ever heard or or taken the Meyer-Briggs test uou've had some experience with this.

-- posted by Carol Wallace



Top 15.   Oct 27, 2004 1:36 PM

» plox - hello

Hi Carol and Tamara! Nice to see old suite friends in discussion on one of my favorite topic sites.

-- posted by plox



Top 16.   Oct 28, 2004 5:40 AM

» bonfmcc - Re: hello

In response to hello posted by plox:

Thanks, Carole, for answering Tamara's question about personality types. There is a good book out by Kiersey called Please Understand Me II. It includes a test and explains all the scoring, etc. It would be interesting to see where fibromites fall. I'm an INFJ - introvert (but just barely), intuitive, feeling, judging (again just barely) type. I've taken the test numerous times though and have scored differently at different points in my life. Primarily, though, I end up basically the same except in matter of degree.
Thanks all of you for the lively discussion here.

-- posted by bonfmcc



Top 17.   Oct 28, 2004 5:52 AM

» tamara_peters - Re: Re: hello

In response to Re: hello posted by bonfmcc:

Carol, thanks for explaining that. I'm obviously not too familiar with this topic, but I'm definitely interested.

Bonnie, thanks for the book recommendation. I do know that I'm an introvert as well. Yes, it would be very interesting to see where FMers fall on that test. I suspect that many more of us are introverts rather than extroverts don't you?

It would be interesting to see whether we actually started out that way, or became that way post-fibro though.

Hi Plox! It's great to see you as well. smile We've been bumping into each other on various topics for years now haven't we? LOL I'm a newcomer to Bonnie's topic so I'm not too familiar with this concept yet, but it sure is interesting.

-- posted by tamara_peters



Top 18.   Oct 28, 2004 3:31 PM

» Carol Wallace - Re: Re: hello

In response to Re: hello posted by bonfmcc:
I'm INFP - definitely an introvert but my scores on thinking versus feeling were really close - feeling won by a hair. The theory is that having gone through the entire Ph.D. program I have developed my thinking side beyond what would come naturally for me.

Please Understand Me is an excellent book. I used it when I taught personality types in a communication course and the kids loved it.

-- posted by Carol Wallace



Top 19.   Oct 29, 2004 5:51 AM

» bonfmcc - Re: Re: Re: hello

I think experiences in life can have an influence on how one scores on the personality test. I can see how the pain of fm might make one tend more toward introversion and also how working on advanced degrees could strengthen the thinking function. Perhaps if we stayed absolutely the same forever, it might indicate nothing much was going on that influenced any of those functions.

I've worked in alternative high school settings now for half my teaching career or more. We once used the test with staff and students to help us understand how we as teachers might relate better to students.

In response to Re: Re: hello posted by CarolWallace:

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