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Top 1024. Aug 11, 2003 4:57 PM

» javelin - Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by La_la:

Lets compare Wesley Clark's military records to the commander in chief....I forgot Mr.Honesty and integrity won't release his military records.

-- posted by javelin

Top 1025. Aug 11, 2003 5:11 PM

» La_la - Re: Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by javelin:

The comment was made that Mr. Clark was a great choice for President. My remark about his support for Affirmative Action and Multiculturalism was based on..these were the first qualifications listed at the website.

And President Bush's military service is well known. He was a fighter pilot in the Air National Guard.

Think you can cut it as a fighter pilot? Few people could.

-- posted by La_la

Top 1026. Aug 11, 2003 5:30 PM

» javelin - Re: Re: Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by La_la:

La_La,

What is your opinion on why the commander in chief won't release his military records?

-- posted by javelin

Top 1027. Aug 11, 2003 6:36 PM

» La_la - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by javelin:

I've never heard anything about this. But, the whole idea of "secretive" military records seems farcicle. A person's military service is a matter of public record and easily accessible.

-- posted by La_la

Top 1028. Aug 11, 2003 6:54 PM

» javelin - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by La_la:

Can anybody justify our commander in chief keeping his military records secret? Anyone? I don't think so....Surprise me. Enough said.

-- posted by javelin

Top 1029. Aug 11, 2003 7:12 PM

» La_la - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by javelin:

Are you talking to yourself? You asked me a question, didn't you? I'll leave the important part of the answer again:

A person's military service is a matter of public record and easily accessible.

-- posted by La_la

Top 1030. Aug 11, 2003 9:22 PM

» Q_out - Ballot Order

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A few more have qualified for the governor's race in California. State election officials have randomly drawn letters to determine the ballot order.
http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/2397061/deta...

Here's the current list of qualified contenders in "Calphabetical order".

Templin, Diane Beall AI

Robinson, David Laughing Horse DEM
Ramirez, Daniel C. DEM
Ranken, Christopher DEM
Wozniak, Michael J. DEM
Winters, Lingel H. DEM
Mortensen, John "Jack" DEM
Margolin, Bruce Martin DEM
Mariano, Paul DEM
Mannheim, Robert C. DEM
Macaluso, Jr., Frank A. DEM
Mailander, Paul "Chip" DEM
Mednick, Scott A. DEM
Vaughn, William B. DEM
Valdez, Marc DEM
Hernandez, Ralph A. DEM
Bock, Audie E. DEM
Bajwa, Vikramjit S. DEM
Bustamante, Cruz M. DEM
Schmier, Mike DEM
Scheidle, Darrin H. DEM
Sproul, Christopher DEM
Green, James Henry DEM
Gruener, Garrett DEM
Gorman, Gerold Lee DEM
Guzzardi, Joe DEM
Nave, Paul James DEM
Cullenbine, Robert DEM
Edwards, Bob Lynn DEM
Korevaar, Eric DEM
Kessinger, David E. DEM
Kennedy, Edward Thomas DEM
Prady, Bill DEM
Pineda Jr., Charles Chuck DEM
Foss, Diana DEM
Farrell, Warren DEM
Feinstein, Dan DEM
Flynt, Larry DEM
Lane, Dick DEM
Leonard, Gary DEM

Watts, Daniel T GRN
Walker, Maurice J GRN
Camejo, Peter Miguel GRN

Rainforth, Jeff IND
Rushford, Sharon IND
Walton, Nathan Whitecloud IND
Mobley, Darryl L.
McCarthy, Mike P. IND
McClain, Robert IND
Arif, Mohammad IND
Angelyne IND
Adams, Brooke IND
Henderson, C. Stephen IND
Britton, Joel IND
Badiozamani, Badi IND
Burton, John Christopher IND
Smith, B.E. IND
Grisham, Jack Loyd IND
Gallagher, Leo IND
Tracy, Brian IND
Tilley, Patricia G. IND
Coleman, Gary IND
Cheli, Michael IND
Padilla, J. Leonard IND

Roscoe, Ned Fenton LIB
Hamidi, Ken LIB
Hickey, John J. "Jack" LIB

Price, Darin NL

Weber, C.T. PF

Richards, Daniel W. REP
Richter, Kevin REP
Renz, Reva Renee REP
Walker, Chuck REP
McNeilly, Mike REP
McClintock, Tom REP
Mehr, Carl A. REP
Musilli, Dorene REP
Vann, Paul W. REP
Hoffmann, Jim REP
Hilton, Jonathan Lynn REP
Beard, John W. REP
Beyer, Ed REP
Bly-Chester, Cheryl REP
Schwarzenegger, Arnold REP
Simon, Bill REP
Sprague, Randall D. REP
Gosse, Richard Andrew REP
Zellhoefer, Jon William REP
Newman II, Robert C. REP
Chambers, William S. REP
Clements, D. (Logan Darrow) REP
Issa, S. REP
Knapp, Stephen L. REP
Ueberroth, Peter V. REP
Peters, Heather REP
Forte, Gene REP

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Q_out

-- posted by Q_out

Top 1031. Aug 12, 2003 6:14 AM

» Fred2000 - Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by La_la:

"A person's military service is a matter of public record and easily accessible."

La_la... Here's an outline of W's military record. Details are available.

1. Pulled Strings to Get In.

2. Took a 2 month vacation in Florida after 8 weeks in the Guard.

3. Skipped Officer Candidate School and got a special commission as 2nd Lt.

As soon as Bush completed basic training, his commander approved him for a "direct appointment", which made him an officer without having to go through the usual (and difficult) Officer Candidate School.

4. Assigned to a safe plane -- the F-102 -- that was being phased out.

5. Celebrity Political Date.

During his flight training, Bush's celebrity showed in a couple of ways. Most famously, President Nixon sent a jet to pick up the young flight student for a date with his daughter Tricia.

6. Illegal, overruled transfer to a base with no work.

He applied for a transfer to a nearly defunct base with no active training or work, the 9921st Air Reserve Squadrom at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. Bush's supervisors approved, but a higher headquarters overruled them, noting that the unit had no regular drills.

7. Just didn't show up for a year -- with no punishment.

8. Skipped all his medical exams after they started drug tests.

9. Left service 10 months early.

-- posted by Fred2000

Top 1032. Aug 12, 2003 6:46 AM

» Lawhawk - Re: Re: Wesley Clark for President

In response to message posted by Fred2000:

http://38.144.96.23/tacitus/archives/000... - a more comprehensive discussion and links regarding Bush's records and time in the ANG

-- posted by Lawhawk