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Top 1357. Jul 8, 2002 8:02 PM

» Kirk - Re: Counter Trend Event

In response to message posted by La_la:

I think you need to agree on terms.

Brinker called for two QQQ counter trend events in his newsletter after doing one on the radio for a $2 gain for those that ignored his advice to not chase it.

Now he is calling for "cyclical bull of 1 to 3 yrs in a secular bear."

Most sane people would agree that a cyclical bull in a secular bear is a "counter trend event" yes?

Now you guys can get back to the food fight.

It might be instructive to show how the time frames for the QQQ CT events evolved and how the time frame for the CB in a SB evolved...

-- posted by Kirk

Top 1358. Jul 8, 2002 8:08 PM

» Will_L - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker claims the m

In response to message posted by La_la:

"You keep saying.."next counter trend event."

I don't remember him making any correlation between a possible buying opportunity, "mother" or otherwise, and some other "event" you are saying he called, and referring to them both as "counter trend events," or one in the same thing. "

Now note all that rambling above is your rambling.

The facts are.

Brinker says we are in a "secular bear market".

A "cyclical bull market" is a counter trend event for one calling a secular bear market. Ross perot would say "pretty simple stuff". Counter trend event is the only description applicable to a "cyclical bull" which brinker is calling in a "secular bear" which Brinker also says we're in.

I hope that is something you can follow--counter trend--cyclical bull in a secular bear.

Now Brinker gives two possible options for his buy in point in a "cyclical bull" in his secular bear. That would be MOABO and VEBO--The greatest ever and the "next to the greatest ever" "Very extraordinary".

Now if you don't agree with that--be specific. Tell me the following.

1) Does Brinker not think we are in a secular bear market?

2) Is Brinker not claiming he will call a "cylical bull market"?

3) Did Brinker not say this weekend that there were two possibilites for that cyclical bull call?
MOABO and VEBO???

That's pretty simple stuff. Please explain where I misunderstood your guru's BS?

-- posted by Will_L

Top 1359. Jul 8, 2002 8:28 PM

» Will_L - Looks like when you put it down in numbered questions Lala can'

Looks like when you put it down in numbered questions Lala can't use his semantic argument. Please Lala answer the questions in order and tell me what you disagree with???? I'm waiting.

No slams at me, no feigned misunderstanding of terminology, just use the questions I asked to see what you don't understand. The silence is telling. smile

-- posted by Will_L

Top 1360. Jul 8, 2002 8:46 PM

» dija - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker claims the market is in a SECULA

In response to message posted by ACousins:

AC said: "If he (BB) wants people to stop laughing at his mistakes, he should admit his mistakes, apologize for them..."

AC, it is hilarious to me that YOU would say something like that. You and Will NEVER admit your mistakes. I understand that is a classic symptom of an inferiority complex.

A recent case in point:

Will said: "Brinker (claims) that individual issues cannot be undervalued because of the efficient market theory."

I responded: "Will, I seriously doubt he said THAT." I then indicated I hoped he would post a correction. That was a joke, as I KNEW he wouldn't.

Will's reaction to that post was as expected: DEAD SILENCE. No attempt to defend his original post, just DEAD SILENCE. (Yah, Will is the silent type, I know! - smile .

Will will NOT post a correction, even though he is wrong. Will, I believe, is emotionally unable to admit to a mistake.

People who cannot admit mistakes, should not criticize others for not admitting
mistakes.

-- posted by dija

Top 1361. Jul 8, 2002 8:51 PM

» dija - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker claims the market is in

In response to message posted by Will_L:

Will said to La la: "What did I miss that You know?"

Will, I will take the liberty of answering that question.

Brinker said there will be a MOABO or a VEBO. That much is clear from the history of bear markets.

He did NOT say that he would be able to predict it with 100% certainty.

If anybody READS INTO his statements that he will precisely time this MOABO or VEBO, then that is his problem. Brinker did not say that.

Brinker never has, and never will, say that he can time the markets with precision.

In fact, if you call him next week and ask him, I predict he will say he will NOT be able to get in at the bottom but will do the best he can to get as close as possible.

-- posted by dija

Top 1362. Jul 8, 2002 9:09 PM

» Will_L - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker claims the market is

In response to message posted by dija:

"Will, I will take the liberty of answering that question.

Brinker said there will be a MOABO or a VEBO. That much is clear from the history of bear markets.

He did NOT say that he would be able to predict it with 100% certainty.

If anybody READS INTO his statements that he will precisely time this MOABO or VEBO, then that is his problem. Brinker did not say that.
"

Ah Brinker shill number two.

Ok tell me

1) Did Brinker say that he thinks we are in a secular bear market?

2) Did Brinker say that he would identify a "cyclical bull market" ?

3) Did Brinker not say that the entry point that he picked would either be MOABO (the best buying opportunity of all time) or VEBO (the next best buying opportunity of all time)??

Answer those questions Dija and then tell me if he didn't say that his next buyin opportunity would be either the best of all time or the next best.

If he said he wasn't certain--document it. Tell me when he said he thought the buying opportunity might be a "just so-so" buying opportunity? Did he say he would call a "pisspoor" opportunity?

Please tell me the range of performance that he gave for his buy signal? Don't talk about me--answer the questions.

-- posted by Will_L

Top 1363. Jul 8, 2002 9:25 PM

» Kirk - Re: Cyclical Events in a Secular Bear

In response to message posted by dija:

OK..

#1 how big did Brinker say the Bull events would be? A range is fine.

#2 how long did he say they would last?

#3 How close did he say he would get you into it from the top and from the bottom?

#4 What evidence is there that he can accomplish getting into the bottom as close as the 5.1% he lightened up at the top? We've alread seen a 27% bull market cyclical event that he didn't participate in... does he require these events to be larger to catch them and add value?

-- posted by Kirk

Top 1364. Jul 8, 2002 9:28 PM

» Will_L - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker claims the market is in a SE

In response to message posted by dija:

". A recent case in point: Will said: "Brinker (claims) that individual issues cannot be undervalued because of the efficient market theory." I responded: "Will, I seriously doubt he said THAT." I then indicated I hoped he would post a correction. That was a joke, as I KNEW he wouldn't. Will's reaction to that post was as expected: DEAD SILENCE. No attempt to defend his original post, just DEAD SILENCE. (Yah, Will is the silent type, I know! - smile . Will will NOT post a correction, even though he is wrong. Will, I believe, is emotionally unable to admit to a mistake. People who cannot admit mistakes, should not criticize others for not admitting mistakes."

Note Dija--that is your rambling BS.

My comments were in reply to a post below from this morning from Bill Bowden. Why don't you blame Bill? Why don't you harrangue him? Brinker's point was that people buying the "best stocks" were wasting their time because that information was known by everyone. In financial circles that is called the "efficient market theory" . That would be obviously Brinker's point. If not, you explain what he meant when Bill says Brinker said that "everybody" knew what the best stocks would do so their value was established and there was no advantage to buying them.

Yet when taken in aggregate Brinker claimes that the market is not "efficient" and he knows more than anyone else. Below is the post--why don't you blast Bill Bowden if you don't agree--I didnt' even hear your lying guru say it.

"But Brinker said something Saturday that was rather confusing. He mentioned that some investment advisors believed they could beat the market by holding only the best stocks. He then followed it up with the fact that the market factors all existing data into the price of the stock which removes any advantage of owning only the best stocks. Then he goes on today about moabo which leads you to believe he knows something that the market doesn't, and therefore not all the data is factored into the price since the price will be below what it is worth. This seems contradictory to what he said yesterday.

Very confusing. "

-- posted by Will_L

Top 1365. Jul 8, 2002 9:30 PM

» ACousins - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker claims the market is in a SE

In response to message posted by dija:

AC, it is hilarious to me that YOU would say something like that. You and Will NEVER admit your mistakes. I understand that is a classic symptom of an inferiority complex

You know Dija, you are in direct competition with Aunt Suzie's baking again. I have no problem admitting mistakes when I realize I have made them. Since you don't bother to read other people's posts, how would you know?

I classify this post of yours as another of your lies. You're getting to be a chronic liar.

You're right about Bob's complex, that's why he attacks others in his profession as well as his poor subscribers and poor callers on a regular basis. Bob's king of his mole hill and he's going to make sure everyone knows it. LOL.

-- posted by ACousins