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Top 1573. Jun 3, 2002 10:36 PM

» ACousins - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dija: answer this question part 2

In response to message posted by dija:

Remember, he encourages his listeners and subscribers to "become your own personal financial advisor."

Dija, answer the questions that I have posted instead of trying to change the subject. What's the difference between a CTR and a CB?

Why did the CTR have indicators in common with the longterm model if they are completely unrelated as you claim?

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS if you're so fond of Bob. BTW, he yells at people on air if they dare to call up and say they didn't follow his advice to the letter. In addition, he doesn't teach anything these days because he doesn't explain anything including why his CTR failed and his longterm model has never seen a bear.

You're swallowing his bs and then spouting it back on this thread. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

-- posted by ACousins

Top 1574. Jun 3, 2002 10:39 PM

» ACousins - Re: Re: Re: Re Dija wrong again - 2 CTRs, 2 Swings and 2 misses

In response to message posted by dija:

Too bad you didn't disagree with his QQQ recommendation. Maybe if you had, you wouldn't be wasting all your time BASHING him now! -

Too bad he got hired to do a national radio show without being called to task for his past errors. Too bad he decided to TRY his hand at trading without having skill or knowledge. Again, you're trying to blame the advisee while letting the advisor go scot free.

-- posted by ACousins

Top 1575. Jun 4, 2002 2:33 AM

» Fred2000 - Re: Re: Re Dija wrong again - 2 CTRs, 2 Swings and 2 misses

In response to message posted by ACousins:

"I still don't think that Bob's longterm model has ever seen a real bear as he has never gone 100% out of the market."

AC... I don't think any model sees bulls or bears, real or not.

Bob puts together a few indicators which may simply indicate a favorable or unfavorable period for stocks. When the numbers show a VERY unfavorable outlook for stocks,(high P/E's, rising interest rates, etc.)Bob makes his judgement about a bear. He wasn't sure in 1/2000, so he called for a reallocation.

-- posted by Fred2000

Top 1576. Jun 4, 2002 4:24 AM

» burlewood - Be honest.

Be honest. It was the best call made. Nobody else saw it coming. If they did, nobody dared go against the madness of the crowd. (Until after the fact.) You figure it out. I looked at previous messages from the time period here. You guys were all bullish. Madness indeed.

-- posted by burlewood

Top 1577. Jun 4, 2002 7:03 AM

» Fred2000 - Be honest

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Be honest. When things went sour, as on the Q's call, he conducted himself worse than a used car salesman.

Gave a hired lip authority on his discussion board to abuse posters. Any question, legitimate or not, was squelched and posters were insulted and treated like dirt. Any discussion of his failed advice was considered to be a flagrant misconduct.

Surrounded by henchmen who did his bidding by spurning legitimate posters. Some are here still supporting him. Of course, they can't defend him on Bob's boards anymore.

-- posted by Fred2000

Top 1578. Jun 4, 2002 7:12 AM

» Will_L - Re: Be honest.

In response to message posted by burlewood:

"Be honest. It was the best call made. Nobody else saw it coming. If they did, nobody dared go against the madness of the crowd. (Until after the fact.) You figure it out. "

Hey Woody, good to see you in a new screen name. Now let's do "figure it out". And let's do "be honest". You say "it was the best call made". That would mean that there is no better call possible or no one did better. "good" "better" "the best"-- the best is the highest ranking. Do you really think Brinker deserves the "highest ranking" for his advice? Let's "figure it out".

January 2000 -- He was not BEARISH. He was holding technology and saying it wasn't included in his "call". He was investing in B2B TEFQX. He had holds on UTEK, MSFT and VOD. He was bragging on the performance of his Portfolio I which was heavily invested in technology. He left 40% of his stock market assets in the market skewed toward technology. He missed the top by 25% in his "tactical asset allocation". He was not consistant in what he claimed he would do if his model was negative--that being go to cash.

So was that "good" "better" or "the best". I would say "good" would handle it. Certainly not "the best". The best idea would have been to be bearish and out of the market entirely. The best model would know that TECH was the Problem, not the place to concentrate your portfolio.

Let's continue figuring this out. He sent a message to every subscriber telling them to take up to half of that money that they had removed from the market (and paid applicable taxes on) and throw it at the QQQs in the 80s. What does that disasterous move do to the performance of what you termed "the best" call made. This after all was based on that call. You say "Nobody esle saw it coming", In this October rout, I saw that it was a potential disaster. Mark J made fun of me for saying so. Brinker and Mark claimed that "the way you make money in a bear market is to play counter trend rallies. Now was that the 'best idea' or a plumb flakey one? smile

I think when you figure it out, throwing Darts at a board is as consistant as Brinker.

-- posted by Will_L

Top 1579. Jun 4, 2002 7:13 AM

» Kirk - Re: Be honest.

In response to message posted by burlewood:

Be honest. It was the best call made. Nobody else saw it coming. If they did, nobody dared go against the madness of the crowd.

I take it you don't read Forbes?

http://www.forbes.com/global/2000/0306/0...
Kenneth L. Fisher, 03.06.00, 12:00 AM ET
"Tech stocks are in a late-stage bubble. It should break later this year."

I take it you get all your information from a 3 hour informercial by DISney on Saturdays and Sundays?

MANY others followed by Hulbert made money in 2000 and 2001 whereas Brinker lost money in his portfolios, especially if you take into account the QQQ advice.

Yes, lowering his asset allocation to stocks in Jan 2000 was a good move. Too bad he gave IT ALL BACK with the QQQ advice.

What is funny... Brinker lost money last year with P1 and P2 portfolios that are mosly cash... while some of us actually made money in 2001 with 70 to 80% in equities! You don't hear much from him about that. Add in the QQQs and his 2001 results are dismal.

2000 1016 Act_ImmediatelyQQQ: http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mlee1984/Brin...

2002 0122 Brinkermanship Forbes Article: http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/i...

Question for you. Why are you trying to mislead people? Even dija admits that his advice since Jan 2000 has been dismal. Is Brinker paying you to spread this false information?

-- posted by Kirk

Top 1580. Jun 4, 2002 7:23 AM

» JIMMY62 - Dija: answer this question part 2

In response to message posted by ACousins:

What's the difference between a CTR and a CB?

February MT: The timeline for the Nasdaq led countertrend rally remains there to six months as measured from the starting point on January 3.

March MT: In our view, the probabilities favor a three to six month bear market rally phase beginning shortly.

The primary difference is the use of the term RALLY

Why did the CTR have indicators in common with the long-term model if they are completely unrelated as you claim?
They both describe movements of the stock market.
CTRs came from the Auxillary timing model (now retired). Bears come from the long-term model .

his long-term model has never seen a bear.
The model turned negative or unfavorable in early January of 2000. Negative or unfavorable means the model not longer recommends a fully invested stock market position. When the model turns unfavorable or negative downside risk is more than 20% (Bob's definition of a bear market) and the upside potential is less than 5%.

-- posted by JIMMY62

Top 1581. Jun 4, 2002 7:30 AM

» JIMMY62 - Re: Re: Re: Re Dija wrong again - 2 CTRs, 2 Swings and 2 misses

In response to message posted by Fred2000:

"I still don't think that Bob's longterm model has ever seen a real bear as he has never gone 100% out of the market."

There is a distinction between the model and Bob"s recommendation.

Bob's January 2000 recommendation top place most stock market assets in cash reserves was based on the negative readings of his long-term timign model and his analysis of the five root causes of a bear market.

-- posted by JIMMY62