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Top 1493. Jun 1, 2002 6:31 PM

» dija - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: newinvestor lacking

In response to message posted by Will_L:

Will L. said: "Brinker sets himself up as an 'expert marketimer...' "

Not true, Will. Brinker often talks about how difficult it is.

Will L. also said: "He also claimed for a long time to pick superior mutual funds."

I don't recall him claiming that, but I imagine David Korn will be along shortly to support your position. If I am right, he will NOT be along to support my position. He simply will not respond.

Will L. also said: "...and he gave the impression he was a 'technology expert' and a great stock picker."

I agree that he gave the impression he was a technology expert. I'm not sure he isn't a technology expert. A lot of technology experts got swallowed up in the crash. Have you ever heard of George Gilder? Don't you think he is a technology expert, or did he also lose that label due to the crash? A lot of people are bashing him now, just like they are bashing brinker. People expect perfection, and when they don't get it, they turn on their former heroes with a malicious wrath that is frightful to see.

I also don't recall Brinker ever saying or "giving the impression" he was a great stock picker. If he was a great stock picker, or thought he was, why wouldn't he pick more stocks???

Will L. also said something about ..."a ridiculous notion that he has more hits than misses."

Will, he DOES have more hits than misses. Unless you SPIN his good calls into bad ones, as you have tried to do on many occasions. Objectivity is a trait you lack.

-- posted by dija

Top 1494. Jun 1, 2002 6:45 PM

» dija - Re: Re: Re: Dija the Liar hits, runs and hides again!

In response to message posted by ACousins:

AC said: "What about the connection between CTRs and CBs?
I've asked repeatedly about that and you have failed to answer. Stop lying dija..."

AC, I always answer any question anyone asks directly of me. I have answered your question above at least 10 times. I don't know where you got your "information" about the correlation between the two. I believe the CTR call was based upon technical analysis. I believe, from what I know, that BB researched past bear markets, tried to figure out what had triggered CTRs during those bear markets, and thought that everything was in place for a CTR in 2001. I personally believe that he was virtually 100% certain that he was right, and that is the reason for the lack of a warning of risk and the lack of a stop-loss on the bulletin. It didn't work, and he has thrown that "model" on the scrap heap. He will never try that again.

Can he predict a CB? I don't know. But I am confident he will not use the same criteria to try to find one that he used in his CTR call.

-- posted by dija

Top 1495. Jun 1, 2002 7:16 PM

» ACousins - Re: Re: Re: Re: Dija the Liar hits, runs and hides again!

In response to message posted by dija:

Dija: AC, I always answer any question anyone asks directly of me. I have answered your question above at least 10 times. I don't know where you got your "information" about the correlation between the two

AC: Nope, I repeated it and you still didn't answer it. I quoted from the MT.

Dija: I believe the CTR call was based upon technical analysis

AC: Nope, I repeated it and you still didn't answer it. I quoted from the MT.

You're at it again, you don't bother reading other people's posts as you have an AGENDA here which is to bolster Bob's image regardless of the cost to others.

-- posted by ACousins

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Top 1496. Jun 1, 2002 7:31 PM

» ACousins - Longterm model and the yield curve

From RM 1/21/00

"In the last week, a portion of the yield curve has inverted, meaning some long-term interest rates are lower than some intermediate-term interest rates. Specifically, the 30-year Treasury bond's yield has dropped below the 10-year Treasury note's. It's the first time since late 1994 that that's happened, and the first time since mid-1990 that it's been sustained for more than a day."

I still think that the most interesting longterm model time periods are those times when the monthly MACD turned negative for awhile:

1990, 1994, 1998 and 2000. I always thought it was strange that Bob talked about the inverted yield curve but said that it didn't necessarily predict a recession. What about the end of the bear market in bonds as that article says?

Wouldn't bonds and stocks move in opposite directions? Were all these crumbs clearly there but he refused to put it together for his listeners (be your own financial advisor - HA!) so he could sell a "model"?

What if the market actually does what most people think it will do (and as it has done in times past) but since "everyone" knows it must be wrong? Confusing but very curious.

-- posted by ACousins

Top 1497. Jun 1, 2002 7:36 PM

» ACousins - Dija: Thinking A Walkerman (as in not thinking)

In response to message posted by dija:

I also don't recall Brinker ever saying or "giving the impression" he was a great stock picker. If he was a great stock picker, or thought he was, why wouldn't he pick more stocks???

Total BS. If he didn't think he was a great stock picker, then why does he pick stocks at all? Why does he pick mutual funds and ETFs at all? Why does he inflict himself on the public at all?

Of course he thinks he's great at what he does, much evidence to the contrary. That's why he was so incredibly stubborn on the CTR. He couldn't believe his eyes that the market wasn't doing exactly what he expected and predicted it would do.

Only a supremely arrogant individual would take such a stance. Supremely arrogant individuals think they're "great".

Also, you did not answer my repeated questions about the relationship between CTRs and CBs and the longterm model. If you actually read my posts (before you answered them) then you would know I quoted no less an authority on Bob than Bob himself in the MT.

So, answer the questions Dija. The CTRs and CBs overlap in time and are counter the trend. Bob's rationale for the CTR included many of the components that he says are included in the longterm model. They go well beyond just technical factors. So the CBs are just a slightly longer version of the CTRs and the CTR has much in common with the longterm model and are not separate from it as you LOUDLY but without SUPPORT claimed.

-- posted by ACousins

Top 1498. Jun 1, 2002 7:45 PM

» tulipa49 - The hysterical caller Saturday wanting her "stock certificates"

I rarely listen to the show, but caught it briefly today. (I am still seething over the ONTK sell)
A very upset and uppity caller asked BB how she could get her broker to send her stock certificates from her IRA, which she was prescient enough to buy on September 13. He cut her off, thankfully.
Was this call a joke or
is the caliber of callers now?

-- posted by tulipa49

Top 1499. Jun 1, 2002 8:02 PM

» mitelo - Re: Walkerman's a glutton for punishment

In response to message posted by Felipe:

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O---< (walkerman)

Wow, Felipe. The guilt may be deserved. Especially since the short guy always has his shoestrings tied together. You really "nose" how to throw the knockout punch!

-- posted by mitelo

Top 1500. Jun 1, 2002 8:20 PM

» Will_L - Re: The hysterical caller Saturday wanting her "stock certificat

In response to message posted by tulipa49:

"Was this call a joke or is the caliber of callers now?"

I think that is about what is left. If you notice the average age has gone from 50 to 75 of his callers. And like the caller you mention who had 4 stocks, each worth 500 dollars at purchase, his "high rollers" are small taters these days.

A Marketiming newsletter by a guy who has claimed so many different things and seldom devlievered, and hid from his audience for over a year, not even addressing the stock market, are only going to be of interest to the very unsophisticated or neophyte investor.

-- posted by Will_L

Top 1501. Jun 1, 2002 9:15 PM

» dija - Re: Dija: Thinking A Walkerman (as in not thinking)

In response to message posted by ACousins:

AC said, "So, answer the questions dija."

AC, I DID answer the questions. I gave you my opinion. I may be wrong. I'm not like Fred2000. I AM capable of making errors. As Brinker says, "you just have to do the best you can," and I try to follow that advice. I no longer subscribe to the Marketimer so I did not see the article you have been quoting for the past many weeks or months.

If you want a "definitive" answer, instead of my opinion, maybe you should call Bob. Or, better yet, ask David Korn.

-- posted by dija