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Top 112. Nov 16, 2001 9:23 PM

» JenL_2 - Re: The Latest -- 11/16/01

In response to message posted by Rande:

To illustrate:

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
VTSMX, VFINX, VEXMX Comparison 5 YR Chart

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
3 YR Chart

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
1 YR Chart

<img src="http://pvcharts.quicken.com/bin/icenter...." width=470 height=250>
YTD Chart

…..Jen

-- posted by JenL_2

Top 113. Nov 23, 2001 4:20 PM

» Rande - The Latest -- 11/23/01

Third up week in a row. Hope everyone had a blessed Thanksgiving. Here's...

The Latest (as of 11/23 close):

YTD 2001:

DJIA -7.7%
S&P -12.9%
SPY -11.3%
VTSMX (W5000 Index Fund) -12.0%
Nas -23.0%
QQQ -32.7%
R2000 -5.2%
MDY (S&P 400 Midcap) -5.3%
VEURX (European Index Fund) -21.9%

Since 12/31/99:

DJIA -13.4%
S&P -21.7%
SPY -19.5%
VTSMX -21.1%
Nas -53.2%
QQQ -57.0%
R2000 -9.2%
MDY +11.2%
VEURX -28.0%
50/50 Total Stock/Total Bond -0.2%
(includes Total Bond through Wed.)

Since Previous Closing Lows:

DJIA (9/21/01) +20.9%
S&P (9/21/01) +19.1%
SPY (9/21/01) +19.3%
W5000 Fund (9/21/01) +19.7%
Nas (9/21/01) +33.7%
QQQ (9/21/01) +39.3%
R2000 (9/21/01) +21.0%
MDY (9/21/00) +19.6%
VEURX (9/21/01) +20.4%

Since Previous Closing Highs:

DJIA (1/14/00) -15.0%
S&P (3/24/00) -24.7%
SPY (3/24/00) -23.0%
VTSMX (3/24/00) -26.3%
Nas (3/10/00; ) -62.3%
QQQ (3/24/00) -66.6%
R2000 (3/9/00) -24.4%
MDY (9/7/00) -11.1%
VEURX (3/24/00) -30.4%
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Previous Closing Highs

DJIA 11722.98 (1/14/00)
S&P 1527.46 (3/24/00) [back to 1530.09 intraday on 9/1/00]
SPY 153.56 (3/24/00) [back to 153.5938 intraday on 9/1/00]
VTSMX 35.58 (3/24/00)
Nas 5048.62 (3/10/00)
QQQ 117.75 (3/24/00)
R2000 606.05 (3/09/00)
MDY 101.4525 (9/7/00)
VEURX 29.85 (3/24/00)

Benchmark Closing Lows (lows since previous all-time highs):

DJIA 8235.81 (9/21/01)
S&P 965.80 (9/21/01)
SPY 97.28 (9/21/01)
VTSMX 21.40 (9/21/01)
Nas 1423.19 (9/21/01) (intra low -- 1387.06 on 9/21/01)
QQQ 28.19 (9/21/01) (intra low -- 27.20 on 9/21/01)
R2000 378.89 (9/21/01)
MDY 74.45 (9/21/01)
VEURX 16.85 (9/21/01)

Market Cycle Peak to Trough:

DJIA (1/14/00 - 9/21/01) -29.8%
S&P (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -36.8%
SPY (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -35.3%
VTSMX (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -38.2
Nas (3/10/00 - 9/21/01) -71.8%
QQQ (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -76.1%
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Index returns are price change only, ETFs and mutual funds including divs/distributions. Returns not guaranteed as to accuracy -- relying on unaudited third-party sources (may have missed a dividend or two, which would understate returns).

-- posted by Rande

Top 114. Nov 23, 2001 5:18 PM

» JenL_2 - Re: The Latest -- 11/23/01

In response to message posted by Rande:

To illustrate:

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
VTSMX, VFINX, VEXMX Comparison 5 YR Chart

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
3 YR Chart

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
1 YR Chart

<img src="http://pvcharts.quicken.com/bin/icenter...." width=470 height=250>
YTD Chart

…..Jen

-- posted by JenL_2

Top 115. Nov 24, 2001 11:13 AM

» David_Korn - Re: The Latest -- 11/23/01

In response to message posted by Rande:

Thanks for posting Rande (and for charts Jen). Rande, my calculation is that the Wilshire 5000 Index Fund closed up 19.28% from its lows of September 21st. You have 19.7%. I was using closing number of 9.03 for the Wilshire 5000 Fund on Friday (and Monday) versus 7.57 on September 21st. Were you looking at the Index, or did one of us make a typo? Thanks.

-- posted by David_Korn

http://www.pimco.com/bonds_commentary_in...

Top 116. Nov 24, 2001 12:24 PM

» ACousins - Pimco

Nice charts. Helps to make sense of the low pe vs high pe debate coming out of a bottom.

4-5% returns over 10 years.

So, does this mean that the ideal setup for another big stock market rise (er bubble?) is a period of stagflation?

-- posted by ACousins

Top 117. Nov 24, 2001 12:55 PM

» lcha - Semi useles stat

More people will declare bankruptcy this year than will graduate from college.

Maybe someone can point out a practical application for that bit of info.

-- posted by lcha

Top 118. Nov 24, 2001 2:57 PM

» Rande - Re: Re: The Latest -- 11/23/01

In response to message posted by David_Korn:

David,

I'm using the Vanguard fund (VTSMX) to measure. The closing price on 9/21 was 21.4. The closing price on 11/23 was 25.54. In between, the fund's NAV was reduced by a .073/share distribution which should be added back. (P.S. Looks like the distribution was payable on 9/28, but might have gone "ex" on 9/21. Will have to double check.)

-- posted by Rande

Top 119. Nov 24, 2001 4:42 PM

» ACousins - Re: Semi useles stat

In response to message posted by lcha:

Well, that obviously means that we should invest less in colleges and more in bankruptcy courts. You know, demand and supply and all that.

-- posted by ACousins

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk...

Top 120. Nov 25, 2001 12:04 PM

» ACousins - Sentiment

I think there's a sentiment thread here somewhere but I have a congenital inability to find anything on Suite101! So here's a nice link to some nice copyrighted info:

-- posted by ACousins