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» BPyles - John Walker
Do not believe much of this article. Had read many months ago that OBL considered anyone from our part of the world as an "infidel" and refused to speak to them - always had a third person do the speaking so he would not soil himself with an infidel. Doubt if he made an exception for a dipstick teenager, even an Islam convert.Sunday December 23 3:37 PM ET
Walker Met with Bin Laden, Newsweek Says
NEW YORK (Reuters) - John Walker Lindh, the 20-year-old Californian who fought for the Taliban in Afghanistan, at one point lived in a secret camp where he attended a small meeting with Osama bin Laden, Newsweek magazine reported on Sunday.
At the meeting, ``the disciple basked in the glow of his master,'' the magazine said in its Dec. 31 issue.
Citing sources familiar with information Walker provided the FBI after his capture on Dec. 2, Newsweek said Walker was eventually trusted enough by bin Laden's al Qaeda network to live in its Farouk camp in the mountains near Kandahar in southern Afghanistan.
The magazine said the site was where at least one of the Sept. 11 hijackers trained and where bin Laden, sought for the attacks on New York and Washington, often moved among the troops.
In the months preceding the attacks, Newsweek said al Qaeda leaders presented Walker with a choice: he could follow a course of intensive terrorist instruction or fight as an al Qaeda warrior against the Northern Alliance.
Walker reportedly told U.S. authorities that he chose to fight, avoiding what a Justice Department official described as ''martyrdom training,'' the magazine said.
Walker was captured after a prison uprising among Taliban fighters at which CIA agent Mike Spann was killed. He was wounded during the uprising outside the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif.
He is being held aboard a U.S. vessel in the Arabian Sea and could face charges that would bring the death penalty.
The Justice Department was described by sources as leaning toward recommending that Walker be charged with violating a law against supporting terrorist organizations, which carries a prison sentence of up to 10 years, rather than treason.
The White House said last week that no decision had been made.
Asked if Walker has shown any remorse since his capture, an official familiar with the suspect said ``not much,'' according to Newsweek.
-- posted by BPyles
» Kirk - Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for Israel
Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for IsraelWednesday December 26 4:23 PM ET
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011226...
Bin Laden: Attack on US to Stop Support for Israel
LONDON (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), the world's most wanted man, said on a video broadcast by al-Jazeera satellite television on Wednesday that the September 11 suicide attacks were intended to stop U.S. support for Israel.
``Our terrorism against the United States is worthy of praise to deter the oppressor so that America stop its support for Israel, which is killing our children,'' the bearded, Saudi-born fugitive said.
He added that the tape was being issued to mark about three months since the attacks on New York and Washington and two months after the United States began its bombing of Afghan targets.
The remarks indicated the tape was recorded in early to mid December.
Looking tired but calm, bin Laden was dressed in a clean, camouflage-patterned combat jacket. He sat against a cloth or canvas screen, his Russian-designed submachinegun propped beside him. There was no indication where he was when he recorded the video.
-- posted by Kirk
» Steven_Russell - Re: Bin Laden tracking recap
In response to message posted by Kirk:The remarks indicated the tape was recorded in early to mid December.
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The earlier Kandahar "bragging" video was thought to have been taped November 9.
In this latest video, he reportedly mentioned the mosque bombing at Khost, which had occurred on November 16.
He reportedly left the besieged Tora Bora base about December 3 and was headed to Pakistan where he was helped across the border by Pathan tribesmen, according to one of bin Laden's senior and most trusted aides, Abu Jaffar, who spoke to a reporter on December 12, after having lost a foot at Tora Bora.
If true, bin Laden would have been away from Tora Bora/Melawa mountains durring the Daisy Cutter bomb drop, on December 9, 2001.
But during the week prior to December 15, 2001 the U.S. had detected the distinctive voice of Osama bin Laden on short-range hand-held radio.
This occurred around Monday, December 10, during which ground forces made spectacular gains into the cave complex.
As of December 15, U.S. military officials still said a concentration of bin Laden's al Qaeda army was contained in the mountains between two parallel valleys, Agam and Wazir, leading to Jalalabad in the north and going toward the Pakistan border in the south. U.S. officials believed bin Laden was moving between the valleys with an entourage of troops. On Sunday, Dec. 16, 2001 the battle for Tora Bora ended, with bin Laden missing.
As of December 17, bin Laden was thought to perhaps now be harbored by a Pashtun leader in Peshawar, Pakistan. But a Pakistani daily reported on December 25, 2001 quoting an unnamed Taliban commander, that Osama Bin Laden had died of a serious lung disease in Afghanistan's Tora Bora mountains earlier in December.
-- posted by Steven_Russell
» CaptRon - Link to....
In response to message posted by Steven_Russell:information of importance for Taliban Muslims...:
http://isgkc.org/condolences.htm
-- posted by CaptRon
» BPyles - Maussaoui trial on TV?
Friday January 4 1:00 PM ETMoussaoui Asks for Televised Trial
By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer
ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - Zacarias Moussaoui, the first person charged as an accomplice in the Sept. 11 attacks, asked a judge Friday to allow cameras to televise his conspiracy trial this fall.
``Mr. Moussaoui recognizes that the American criminal justice system will be on display for the entire world as the trial of this action proceeds,'' said a defense motion supporting a proposal by Court TV to carry the proceedings. .
Televising the trial would ``add an additional layer of protection to see these proceedings are fairly conducted,'' his lawyers argued in the motion.
Normally, cameras are banned from federal courtrooms although the Oklahoma City bombing trial was shown on closed-circuit TV to the victims' families.
The government was expected to weigh in later Friday with its recommendation.
Moussaoui's motion asked the judge not to permit televising any pretrial proceedings. Jury selection is set to begin Sept. 30, with opening arguments to begin about two weeks later.
The defense expressed concern that anything said during pretrial arguments and during jury selection could prejudice potential jurors who may ``become exposed to information that will not be admissible at trial.''
The defense motion also asked that if the jury wasn't sequestered - confined after trial hours to a hotel or secure location to avoid publicity - TV cameras should be restricted to live coverage. They asked the judge to prohibit replaying the tape when jurors might be able to watch it.
``There is a risk that a nonsequestered jury might, despite the order of the court, see testimony that has already been given in court and thus give undo weight to the replayed testimony,'' the lawyers argued.
Court TV has asked U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema for permission to broadcast the trial.
Although many state courts allow trials to be broadcast, federal rules explicitly prohibit TV cameras in courtrooms. Lawyers for Court TV have argued that prohibition is unconstitutional.
The cable network also asked to broadcast pretrial proceedings.
A hearing on Court TV's request is scheduled for next week.
Moussaoui is charged with conspiring with Osama bin Laden, the hijackers and others to commit the Sept. 11 attacks and could get the death penalty if convicted.
Congress allowed families of the Oklahoma City bombing victims to watch Timothy McVeigh's trial on a closed-circuit broadcast.
Sen. George Allen, R-Va., has introduced similar legislation for the Moussaoui trial and the families of the Sept. 11 victims. The bill has passed the Senate and will be considered by the House.
Four federal circuit courts have upheld the constitutionality of the federal rule barring the broadcast of criminal trials. But those cases were heard between 1983 and 1988, and technology has changed since then to make cameras much less disruptive, Court TV has argued.
Court TV, a division of AOL Time Warner, has televised more than 700 trials and judicial proceedings since its inception in 1991. Among the most notable televised trials was that of O.J. Simpson.
-- posted by BPyles
» rasputin - It offends me greatly
It offends me greatly when OBL and other terrorists are mistakenly referred to as masterminds and when al-Qaeda is described as such a sophisticated organization. This is a load of crap. Don't get me wrong; I understand that they are dangerous. A rat or a rabid dog can be dangerous, but surely can't be considered as sophisticated. I see these terrorists as primitive, ideologic misfits. What kind of genius does it take to sneak around, blow things up and generally engage in vandalism. I think we again give our adversary too much credit. I am infinitely glad that we are meting out the punishment these psychopathic criminals sorely deserve.-- posted by rasputin
» rasputin - And another thing...
This Arab-American secret service agent who is making a big fuss about how he was treated...I think he oughta' just "suck it up", get over it, deal with it or whatever.... He oughta' act like a grown up, understand the circumstances and not be so thin-skinned (regardless of its color). If the agent was an Israeli-American who happened to be similar in appearance (i.e. Semitic), I wonder if he woulda' raised such a stink.-- posted by rasputin
» Q_out - Series of small plane crashes
Bombardier Challenger aircraft breaks in two on Birmingham, England runway Friday killing 5 from American company Agco. http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagenam...15-year old runs Cessna into 40-story Tampa, Florida Bank of America building. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/art...
Cessna crashes in Boulder, Colorado. http://9news.com/newsroom/14257.html
Small plane crashes in Puerto Rico. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/200201...
Single-engine plane crashes on takeoff from Fullerton, CA airport. http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/1...
Private aviation seems to be getting hazardous.
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» Steven_Russell - Re: Series of small plane crashes
In response to message posted by Q_out:There are 800 small plane crashes every year, which averages out to two or three a day, the vast majority go unreported except locally.
Most likely this is merely a typical media panic, similar to the shark attack "outbreak" media panics that happen like clockwork every few years.
-- posted by Steven_Russell
» rasputin - Re: Re: Series of small plane crashes
In response to message posted by Steven_Russell:I agree Steve. Now the media folks are raising the question as to how we can prevent this. It brings to mind the almost statistical impossibility of accurately predicting rare events. By "accurately" I mean not having an inordinate amount false positives and false negatives. False positives are where you say something is likely to happen and it doesn't. False negatives are when you say something won't happen and it does. For example, that's the problem with accurately predicting suicide. When we try to predict rare events, we inevitably come up with too many false positives. We overpredict (supposedly on the side of caution because the rare event is unacceptable). We come up with the notion that so many people are suicidal, when in fact we end up being wrong most of the time.
-- posted by rasputin
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