Abby Joseph Cohen


  1. CaptRon
  2. CaptRon
  3. zbidnizmin
  4. 750a
  5. CaptRon
  6. Sinewave
  7. Kirk
  8. CaptRon
  9. smile_1
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Top 105.   Jul 22, 2002 10:03 AM

» CaptRon - Re: Re: Re: Re: Same Song

In response to message posted by zbidnizmin:

FWIW, I believe MF redemptions and Margin calls done by 3, EST..., but that doesn't discount tomorrow AMs redemptions, based on todays waterfall....

Guessin' here, but the ST selling should slow NLT 10/10:30 Wed am....

Lol...no guarantees...8-)

-- posted by CaptRon



Top 106.   Jul 22, 2002 10:05 AM

» CaptRon - Re: Re: abby

In response to message posted by Kirk:

Kirk...missing one impt function of Abby...and Henry Kaufman before her...
Create whatever demand they can for GS trading desks to sell into...


Brittny Spears is to Pepsi, tight jeans or implants.....
Now that's good....8-)

-- posted by CaptRon



Top 107.   Jul 22, 2002 10:10 AM

» zbidnizmin - Re: Re: Re: abby

What I want to know is...

What is AJC to implants?

Maybe she and Brittny should swap jobs.

In response to message posted by CaptRon:

-- posted by zbidnizmin



Top 108.   Jul 22, 2002 2:43 PM

» 750a - Re: Re: Re: Re: abby

In response to message posted by zbidnizmin:


Spot on Captain Ron! She's a paid liar. A wall street hussy. Hey Z man, don't mention abby and implants in the same sentence. Your'e making us sick.

-- posted by 750a



Top 109.   Jul 22, 2002 3:17 PM

» CaptRon - Britney Spears & implants...

In response to message posted by Kirk:

Here, Kirk...although I believe you've see this...8-)

http://www.dc8p.com/html/pairs.html

-- posted by CaptRon



Top 110.   Jul 31, 2002 10:51 AM

» Sinewave - High Praise For Abby

July 31, 2002

By Brady Willet

Business Week’s Gene Marcial wrote an article yesterday which is quite possibly the most ridiculous article I have ever read. This is no small feat considering some of the columns James Glassman has written over the years.

“Just a week ago, Goldman Sachs's resident optimist advised clients that "equities are priced too cheaply." Could be a good call.”

“Abby Joseph Cohen, chief market strategist at Goldman Sachs, has maintained her cool through it all.”

“It looks like her unwavering confidence in a market rebound is now being validated.”

“The erudite and amazingly prescient market guru has been one of the few consistent -- and persistent -- believers in the stock market.”

”Never did she panic during the market's broad two-and-half-year decline. Even when things appeared to be darkest, Cohen exuded reasonable calm, patiently citing rational explanations behind the market's bearish gyrations.”

“Cohen was ahead of the crowd. In a missive to clients on July 22, when so many other professional and individual investors were voicing doom and gloom, Cohen wrote: "Equities are priced too cheaply."

What Mr. Marcial neglected to do is make any specific mention of Abby’s track record. For certain, Abby repeatedly called for Dow 13,000 and S&P 1,650 through out 2000, and she used the term ‘notable undervaluation’ and variances of this term after every severe sell-off during 2001. Abby wasn’t ‘optimistic’, ‘cool’, ‘calm’, ‘rational’, and ‘ahead of the crowd’. She was, and still is, ‘blind’, ‘laughing all the way to the bank’, and ‘irrational’. In sum, Cohen’s mantras have cost any investor listening to her dearly…

Being wrong is one thing (everyone makes mistakes). However, when someone like Mr. Marcial claims that Abby’s ‘unwavering confidence’ is now being ‘validated’ this is just plane ludicrous. Perhaps if Amazon rallies by a couple of bucks Mr. Marcial can tell us how prescient Henry Bloget was.

-- posted by Sinewave



Top 111.   Jul 31, 2002 1:22 PM

» Kirk - BusinessWeek Online Article

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A Turnaround Won't Surprise Abby Cohen
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk...

BusinessWeek Online

Daily Briefing: INSIDE WALL STREET ONLINE
By Gene Marcial
Wednesday July 31, 2002

Abby Joseph Cohen, chief market strategist at Goldman Sachs, has maintained her cool through it all. And it looks like her unwavering confidence in a market rebound is now being validated. The erudite and amazingly prescient market guru has been one of the few consistent -- and persistent -- believers in the stock market.

Never did she panic during the market's broad two-and-half-year decline. Even when things appeared to be darkest, Cohen exuded reasonable calm, patiently citing rational explanations behind the market's bearish gyrations.

On Monday, July 29, the Dow Jones industrial average rocketed more than 447 points, to 8711.88 -- capping a four-day rally. That was the second-largest percentage gain since the days after the 1987 market collapse. The biggest percentage gain, significantly, occurred on Wednesday, July 24, when the Dow jumped 489 points, or 6.4%. Over the past four days, the Dow zoomed up 1009.54 points, or 13%.

NO GLOOM AND DOOM. In morning trading on July 30, the Dow had retreated from its July 29 highs and was down around 150 points before easing somewhat in the early afternoon. With the downside momentum apparently abating -- and maybe even switching to the upside -- some pros now think the market has hit bottom.

Cohen was ahead of the crowd. In a missive to clients on July 22, when so many other professional and individual investors were voicing doom and gloom, Cohen wrote: "Equities are priced too cheaply." Most investors were bailing out and dumping most, if not all, of their stock holdings, as the Dow plummeted that day by 235 points. It closed at 7784, way below its level of 10,600 in mid-March. The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index tumbled 28 points, to 819. The tech-heavy Nasdaq nosedived 36 points, to 1282.

To Cohen, however, it was clear that the bargain days were back -- and beckoning: "In early 2000, the pendulum swung too far in the direction of risk-tolerance. Today, we believe it has swung too far in the direction of risk-aversion," she argued in her note to clients. The risk premium that's now being implied in the falling stock prices is the highest in several years, she said. "Risk-aversion has become too intense."

A "BEAR TRAP"? The stock market's spectacular rebound since July 22 hasn't turned many of the skeptics around. They argue that the rally is just that -- a short-term upswing that looks like a "bear trap," meaning it would suck in the optimists only to drown them in another massive decline.

The rally on July 29 "may have been too much, too fast," warns Mark Lebovit of VR Strategic Consultants, an adviser to institutional investors. He thinks the market is in a "short-term cyclical up period" that could last through mid-August to early September. But even Lebovit concedes that if the market fails to break under last Wednesday's [July 24] lows on the next pullback, this bull phase could continue for sometime.

For those who remain leery about the market's capacity to keep climbing, here's the reasoning behind Cohen's belief that equities are still priced too low: Investors' focus on liabilities has led to the current undervaluation, she argues. But what about the market's assets? They should be taken into account as well, she says. So, how do the assets stack up against the liabilities? Cohen thinks that's an important question, necessary to arrive at an accurate valuation of stocks.

EARNINGS QUESTIONS. The assets begin with the strong underlying structure of the U.S. economy, says Cohen. The U.S. has the world's most productive workers and a gross domestic product growth potential of about 3% annually. The economy, she argues, has already mounted a substantial recovery from the late '90s excesses in capital spending and inventories. On top of this, inflation has been modest, and interest rates are expected to stay low, she adds.

In the liability column is the collective concern about the veracity of company earnings reports. However, Cohen wrote, "we believe the accounting cleanup is well under way." The Aug. 14 deadline imposed by the Securities & Exchange Commission affects earnings reports that are now being released for the second quarter, she noted.

Other liabilities include: The dollar's decline; portfolio managers' use of momentum strategies that focus on short-term events, which fuel negativity and more selling; the potential impact of stock-price declines on spending decisions by companies and consumers; and the continuing confusion over how to value the market, which gets back to the quality-of-earnings issue and corporate accounting.

STRONGER THAN EXPECTED. As proof that the shift to more conservative accounting has already begun, Cohen pointed out that in the past three quarters, companies in the S&P 500 announced write-offs and goodwill impairments totaling $165 billion. Plus, any economic damages the decline in stock prices have wrought "already have been incorporated in our economic and profit forecasts," wrote Cohen. Meanwhle, the dollar's decline -- "while not good for the national psyche, will likely boost economic and profit growth," she argued.

Earnings is one factor driving the market, says investment manager Louis Navallier of Navallier & Associates, which manages some $6 billion. The S&P 500 earnings for the second quarter have thus far exceeded analysts' estimates, he notes, "by gaining 1% instead of falling into the red for the sixth consecutive quarter." [See BW Online, 7/29/02, "The Earnings Recession? 'That's Over'".] "The bottom line," he says, "is that profits are stabilizing -- the best corporate news we've read in a long time."

What are investors to do now?

Cohen notes that in spite of the market's recent demonstration of resiliency, many portfolio managers are still waiting for a convincing upturn in stock prices before committing to equities. "This is the mirror image of 1999 and early 2000, when many investors were reluctant to reduce equity exposure while stock prices were rising," she said. She added that many investors who were anxious to buy shares when the Nasdaq stood at 5,000 are now concerned that the index is too expensive at 1300.

REALLOCATING NOW. Such momentum-driven focus is due, in part, to the lack of confidence in fundamental forecasts. This has led investors to believe that a "premature reentry" into the stock market would be a poor business decision. That's especially true of investment pros whose clients have been disheartened by the market's dismal short-term performance.

But Cohen believes that investors with longer time horizons, such as managers of pension and endowment funds, may be among the first to reallocate assets -- if they haven't done so already -- toward stocks.

-- posted by Kirk



Top 112.   Aug 8, 2002 2:43 PM

» CaptRon - AJC on CNBC - 8/8

Clock for dump within three days begins...

-- posted by CaptRon



Top 113.   Aug 8, 2002 3:26 PM

» smile_1 - Re: AJC on CNBC - 8/8

In response to message posted by CaptRon:

Spot on good buddy smile

As I recall you called it precisely last time with this AJC indicator.

Last time I picked off some SPY @ 85.75 thinking I was safe... saw your last AJC post and watched 'em go to 77 and change at the bottom - three trading days later... whoa nelly - good call... lol

-- posted by smile_1



Top 114.   Aug 11, 2002 9:58 AM

» Kirk - Re: AJC on CNBC - 8/8

In response to message posted by CaptRon:

Here is a plot of AJC's comments vs the market.

I fail to see any connection other than she has remained a bull while the market has gone down. This is not a sin if your belief in the long term of the market proves correct.

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.we...

Now what WOULD be interesting is to see her equity (large, mid, small cap, tech, financials, etc.) and asset allocation vs time going back 5 years. My guess is she, like many of us, saw tech was going up a great deal, but we under estimated the size of the bubble and how far it would deflate so we didn't take enough out.

In retrospect, seeing tech go from 15% to 35% of the S&P500 should have told many of us to reduce tech more like 50% rather than 5, 10 or 25%. (of course a 100% sell at the top is ideal, but I am speaking from the point of view of an asset allocator.)

-- posted by Kirk



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