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WSW: Louis Rukeyser's Wall Street Summary & Discussion $treet
This archived discussion is "read only". « Previous 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 Next » » SteveT - 6-11-04 Consuelo Mack filled in for Lou this week. Consuelo spent the majority of her time remembering Ronald Reagan and pointing out his accomplishments. They included Reaganomics, the end of the Cold War, and FED Chairman Paul Volcker. Other topics explored were the price of crude oil dropping and remarks by the current FED Chairman. Tom Gallagher stated Ronald Reagan’s legacy will be Foreign Policy, Attempts to shrink the government, and support of Paul Volcker. Volcker’s policies did lead to disinflation, which made possible a long bull market in bonds and multiple expansion for stocks. Tom thinks now we are at a turning point because inflation can’t get lower unless we go into deflation so inflation is going to be increasing. For the stock market that means an advance no more than profit growth. Tom thinks FED action is going to be key and a close second is the statement they issue after each meeting. Gallagher doesn’t think an asbestos bill will pass this year and neither will allowing reimportation of pharmaceuticals. All though policy is probably headed that way. Elizabeth Dater said Ronald Reagan was an out of the box thinker and that made a huge difference. She too believes we are heading into a period where inflation is gong to be a concern. Dater was encouraged by the bipartisanship seen this week, and hopes in some small measure it can continue in this election year. Beth’s outlook is for market volatility until we see some resolution in Iraq and the elections are over. For now the market is treading water. Her stock picks are small cap growth health care companies. They include Accredo Health (ACDO) Covance (CVD) and Mentor (MNT). Michael Holland will remember Ronald Reagan as an optimist and for saying our best days are yet to come. Mike is positive on the markets, saying he sees problems in Iraq lessening. Mike also sees the FED being successful in making a measured move that helps the economy. He thinks earnings this year and next are going to be above expectations. In the past Mike has recommended selling Chinese stocks due to excessive valuations. They have come back to reality and now it appears China will be able to slow their economy without destroying it. For that reason Mike recommends the China Fund (CHN), Mike is on the board of that fund. Holland also recommends Johnson & Johnson (JNJ). Consuelo then introduced special guest Byron Wien, Investment Strategist, Morgan Stanley. Wien is known for bucking the trend and Mack got right to work asking what is going to be the biggest surprise this year. Byron said the markets will do better than most people expect the second half of this year and finish up double digits. He did say there is a great deal of optimism in Technology and Financials, he is skeptical in those areas. Stocks he does like are Abbott Laboratories (ABT), Allergan (AGN), ConocoPhillips (COP), Valero (VLO), and Target (TGT). Tom asked for a forecast on FED Funds rates and the yield of the 10 year Treasury. Wien thinks by year end FED funds will be close to 2% and move up further in 2005. 10 year Treasuries should yield 5.5% by year end and peak out next year at 6%. Rates were to low so some increase should not stop the stock market from making progress. Beth asked for recommendations for long term investors. Byron said if you are looking out 5 years or more think about a Biotechnology portfolio. You could use an ETF or Mutual fund. Mike asked what is one thing to avoid now. Look at valuations and dividends, avoid those high P/E stocks that don’t pay a dividend. Mack asked the panel and guest what is one thing you should absolutely do now. For Wien it is to be careful on high multiple stocks. Tom would avoid bonds. Beth would not give up on small cap stocks but warned to be selective. Mike is not giving up on the economy or stock market. He thinks this year and beyond will be better than many expect. Mack closed by asking Wien what is one piece of advice from Ronald Reagan that has stood him in good stead. Keep it simple and stick with your passion. Next weeks guest and panel have yet to be announced. Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser
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-- posted by Kirk » SteveT - 6-18-04 Consuelo Mack again filled in for Lou this week. The best news of the week was as Consuelo put it “Lou continues a slow but steady return to good health.” Liz Ann Sonders says lately strong earnings have been over shadowed by other news. Now we have more of a sense what and when the FED is going to be doing the market should be able to concentrate on earnings. She believes second Quarter earnings are going to be as strong or perhaps a little stronger than first Quarter earnings. With worries about interest rates and inflation behind us that could provide the catalyst to get us out of this malaise. The market hates uncertainty so the major risks are Iraq and the November Elections. Liz Ann says now is the time to look for companies that have become reasonably valued. Some of her favorites are ChevronTexaco (CVX), FMC Corp (FMC), and Metlife (MET). Frank Gannon Agrees that second Quarter earnings will be better than first. He is encouraged the market is up Year to Date considering the bad news it has digested. He believes once second Quarter earnings are out investors will start focusing on fundamentals and the market will go higher. Gannon believes one risk is that Corporations are sitting on stacks of cash and will be hesitant to spend it. Frank likes high quality Large Caps such as Microsoft (MSFT), Tyco International (TYC), and Merck (MRK). Barbara Marcin noted earnings estimates for the rest of this year and next are still increasing. The Beige Book released this week shows the economy expanding across the Nation. She believes this is the foundation for a good economy for the next 12-18 months. Marcin said while stock prices are treading water they are building value into the market. For Marcin the major threat is an unexpected external event. Stocks Barbara likes are AES Corp. (AES) and El Paso Energy (EP). Consuelo then introduced special guest Dan Fuss, Vice Chairman & Portfolio Manager, Loomis Sayles. Dan says interest rates rising is good news. He asked, would you rather lend money at 6% or 5? The trick is to get through this period with your capital intact. The other thing is to focus on is income level. Hopefully you can at least stay even or even go up slightly. Dan thinks we are about 80% through the adjustment for this cycle. He thinks the 10-year treasury yield will peak about 5.25%. He warned the next cycle a few years from now could be a “real hum dinger”. Fuss explained during the next cycle there is going to be real competition between Treasuries and Corporate bonds. For now his strategy is to shorten maturities. He used to be about 80% in maturities of more than 10 years. Now 50% is in cash or bonds maturing in less than five years. About 25% bonds maturing in 5-10 years. The balance in corporate bonds maturing in over 10 years. He says corporate credit is as good as he has seen it in four decades. Liz Ann asked where the yield curve would be over the next year or so. His guess is short-term rates about 3% by the end of the cycle in about 2.5 years. The 10-year treasury peaks about 5.25. The 30-year Treasury around 6.25 or possibly 6.75 if they start issuing more. Fuss calls this cycle non-stress and better for bond investors. Frank asked for views on International bonds. Dan has a good chunk of his 1-5 year maturing bonds in Non U.S. currency denominated bonds. Many other Nations are experiencing higher yields and flat curves and that helps hold up the income. Fuss is a Dollar bull but acknowledges we are in a short-term adjustment of other currencies to ours. When this is over he will move towards longer maturing Corporate bonds. Barbara asked how does an individual know when tightening is over and when to start buying bonds. That is a tough one, Dan does it full time for over 40 years and doesn’t have a good answer because he is often not right. His best advice is build a ladder. Consuelo asked if viewers did own treasuries what should they do. Don’t get too cute. If a non taxable account build a ladder starting with 5 year Treasuries down to 2 year. Wait a year to buy another 5 year. Mack finished by asking everyone for one big idea for investors. Liz Ann said don’t rely on one big idea. But do ask yourself who you are as an investor. Know your risk tolerance, establish a plan and stick to it. Frank said understand your asset allocation and look closely at your bonds and understand what you own. Barbara said to have a strategy you can stick with over the long term. The key is compounding long term returns. Dan recommends for bonds multi sector diversity or the use of a fund. If you are not going to use a fund go with the afore mentioned laddering strategy. This allows you to adjust your money to the higher rates and do so without a great deal of sweat. Next weeks guest host will be Bill Griffith with the annual Mid-year show. The panel will be the top four Year to Date in the New Years stock picking contest, Rich Bernstein, Ed Brown, Kim Goodwin, and Bob Stovall. Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser
-- posted by SteveT » SteveT - 6-25-04 Bill Griffith hosted the annual mid year review. Bill reflected on the first half of 2004 repeating the old bromide about the stock market being forward looking six to nine months. He did wonder if now however it is only looking at next week. Many very important and closely watched items are on next weeks agenda. Wednesday June 30th marks the end of the quarter, the official hand over of power in Iraq, and the FED meeting concludes and is expected to announce a rate increase. Griffith also reviewed economic reports of job growth, jobless claims, retail sales, existing home sales, industrial production, core CPI, FED Funds rate vs. inflation, trade deficit, major stock indices, gold, copper, and the Dollar. He also said 11 of the 22 panelists are doing better than the major market averages (DOW and NASDAQ). At this link you will find the numbers and see only 8 panelists are beating the S&P 500 and Wilshire 5000. http://www.rukeyser.com/tvshow/panelist_... Bob Stovall thinks the second half of 2004 will see more volatility and volume than the first half. He believes earnings will remain good and we will see dividend increases. He also thinks we will see the market shift sectors towards consumer staples and continuing investment in energy, though that maybe a mistake. By the end of the year Stovall thinks the FED funds rate will be 2%. He traditionally watches the economic indicators of inflation and interest rates but now Bob is also watching the Philadelphia FED reports on manufacturing for signs of increased business spending. He thinks that is now starting to pick up and will remain strong. Stovall believes it does matter to Wall Street who wins the Presidency. As of the end of May Bob’s stock portfolio for the annual contest was up 14.17%. If he could, he would swap out Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) and buy Watson Pharmaceuticals (WPI). Another stock Bob likes now is Sasol LTD. (SSL). Kim Goodwin thinks over the next six months the market will be digesting all it has been worrying about and start trading on fundamentals. She thinks it will end up being a fairly good year, up 6% or so. Kim agrees with Bob on which economic reports to watch. She said business is sitting on a huge amount of cash and if second quarter earnings come in strong that should give them confidence to start spending. Kim believes whom ever wins the White House won’t matter to the over all market but it will to the Health Care sector. Goodwin’s contest portfolio was up 4.97% at the end of May. She does have an under performer and would sell Carmax (KMX) and buy EOG Resources (EOG), She has a $72 target price on EOG. Kim also likes Trex Company (TWP). Rich Bernstein believes now the market is in a transition period. 2003 saw earnings growth very strong and a very accommodative FED. He expects this year earnings growth to slow and rates to increase. He thinks it will be a flat year in the market. Economic indicators Rich will be watching are the price of oil and wages vs. inflation. If inflation increases faster than wages it could affect consumer spending. Rich doesn’t think the winner of the election matters either way, taxes are going to have to go up. He pointed out we had bull markets in both the Clinton and Reagan administrations and both raised taxes. It is what you do with tax dollars that matters to Wall Street. Bernstein’s portfolio was up at the end of May 5.03% and he would make no changes. A stock he recommends is Progress Energy Inc (PGN). It yields 5.3% and is expected to grow that dividend more than the worst inflation expectations. Ed Brown says the market is on very solid footing in terms of fundamentals and is not excessively valued. The first half of this year saw very little difference between Large Cap value and growth. In the Small cap area value outpaced growth. He thinks that will change during the second half and Small growth will catch up to Small value. Ed is going to keep an eye on inflation and corporate profits. He is also going to be looking at economic growth and interest rates. Brown says Wall Street favors Republicans but he doesn’t think either way policies will change enough to dramatically affect the markets. Ed was up 8.09% in the annual contest and would make no changes to his portfolio. He does like Staples (SPLS). Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser
-- posted by SteveT » SteveT - 7-2-04 Consuelo Mack served as guest host. Mack reviewed the major headlines of the week including a couple I missed. The S&P 600 Small Cap Index hit a new all time high this week and another award for Lou. This past Monday regular panelist Mike Holland accepted on Lou’s behalf the Gerald Loeb Life Time Achievement Award. http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/media/loeb/... Lou received the first ever Loeb Award thirty years ago. Program Note, Starting next week the show will be seen at 7:30 eastern Time. Frank Cappiello said indications are the economy is slowing and expects 2004 GDP to be 3.5%, which isn’t bad. Summer is historically a dull period for the market but Frank says if you are in the market now is not the time to get out. Stocks Cappiello likes are Cendant (CE) and SunGard Data Systems (SDS). Alison Deans thinks this year GDP will be closer to 4%. She also believes the FED will continue to increase rate at “a measured pace” making it hard for the market to go up the rest of this year. Deans likes Equity Office Properties (EOP) and Simon Property (SPG). Nick Sargen also subscribes to 4% GDP this year. He expects the consumer to take a breather and says a rotation is approaching towards business spending leading the way on the next leg of economic expansion. Nick thinks we are in a trading range for now and the market it fairly valued. Earnings are improving and that is reason enough not to be bearish. No one knows when but earnings at some point will spark a rally. Stocks Sargen likes are Medtronic (MDT) and Comcast (CMCSA). Consuelo then introduced special guest Satya Pradhuman, Chief Small Cap Strategist, Merrill Lynch. Satya thinks we are in an extended period of small cap out performance. The reason he believes this period will be longer than average small cap cycles is 1) Valuation. Now more than in the late 90’s investors are going to remain valuation sensitive. Today small caps valuations are very similar to what they were at the bottom of the 1990 cycle. 2) We are about to begin the second phase of the small cap cycle. Money invested in small caps will buy growth more so than large caps. We should see a wide gap in revenue and earnings vs. large caps per dollar invested. Pradhuman did warn small caps are volatile and recommends a portfolio approach or using a fund for small cap investing. Stocks he likes are URS Corporation (URS), American Axle & Manufacturing (AXL), and Province Healthcare (PRV). Frank asked for definitions of the various market caps categories. Below $200 Million are micro caps, $200 Million to $1.6 Billion is considered small cap/mid cap. Frank also asked what percentage of equities should an investor with a twenty year time horizon have in small caps. Satya said it is also dependant on risk tolerance, those with an average risk tolerance could be around 15% to 20%. Increase this if you risk tolerance is higher. Alison said typically small cap cycles are four to six years, is this one nearing an end? No, as previously mentioned this cycle should last longer. For one thing the first three years of this small cap cycle went unnoticed. Historically the shortest cycle was three years, the longest nine years. Nick asked if today it is better to go small growth or small value. The answer is to look for the best manager. Look at good times and bad times and understand what good and bad times are. Pradhuman said absolute rate of return is not enough to judge a manager. Next weeks special guest will be Dr. Bob Froehlich, Chief Investment Strategist, Scudder Investments. The panel will be Elizabeth Dater, Louis Holland, and Gretchen Lash. Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser
-- posted by SteveT » pbradford6 - Re: 7-2-04 In response to message posted by SteveT:Steve does a great job with his weekly reporting. I sure appreciate his talented writing and comments and wish him continued success in his endeavors. -- posted by pbradford6 » SteveT - 7-9-04 Unfortunately my reception was not up to par last night so this report will have some gaps. I would appreciate anyone being able to add to what I was able to hear. Bob Froehlich’s comments in particular were garbled, so please feel free to expand. Consuelo Mack again served as guest host. Consuelo focused on earnings. Alcoa was the first DOW component to report this quarter. They had strong earnings and future guidance. The stock was rewarded in after hours trading by dropping more than three percent. Seems investors were worried that cost cutting was only half of expectations. Yahoo had a similar strong report and got hit eight percent. General Electric was the saving grace for the week reporting on Friday. That strong report seemed to give the broad market reason for optimism. Gretchen Lash said all recoveries start with a period on unsustainable fast growth. Now we are going into a transition of somewhat slower but sustainable healthy growth. Investors have gotten so focused on how dramatic the slowing will be. She doesn’t think it will be all that dramatic. Stocks Lash likes are Staples (SPLS), Lowe’s (LOW), and General Electric (GE). Lou Holland Thinks for now uncertainty is prevailing. The NASDAQ stocks that have earnings are trading at a P/E of 30 and growing at 10%, so they are not cheap. Holland thinks the first quarter earnings growth of 17% will be the peak and they will be slower the rest of this year. He expects stocks to finish the year up 6%-8% from where they started. Lou likes quality stocks like weight Watchers (WTW), International Speedway (ISCA), and Willis Group Holdings (WSH). Elizabeth Dater said election years are typically up and so far this one is flat. She thinks the fourth quarter will be strong as uncertainty about rates and the election are resolved. Dater said the easy earnings comparisons are behind us and at some point the market should normalize. Stocks she likes are Denbury Resources (DNR), Ask Jeeves (ASKJ), and Covance (CVD). Consuelo then introduced special guest Dr. Bob Froehlich, Chief Investment Strategist, Scudder Investments. Dr. Bob is bullish saying there is a disconnect between earnings and market performance. At the end of the day earnings always drive the markets either up or down. He believes second quarter S&P earnings will be up 30%. Froehlich thinks when second quarter earnings are reported a summer rally will ensue. He doesn’t like to over pay for any stock and thinks there are bargains in Tech and Financials. Stocks he likes are Citigroup (C), Merrill Lynch (MER), JP Morgan Chase (JPM), Intel (INTC), Cisco (CSCO), and Motorola (MOT. Gretchen asked how Bob interprets the weakness in software. Some of it is corporate officers are gun shy about giving overly optimistic guidance for fear of going to jail. Lou asked if we are in a small cap bubble. Froehlich didn’t think so, more of a rotation towards large caps, especially with new money into the market from the sidelines. Elizabeth asked for an allocation recommendation considering the trend in rising rates. I was not able to hear any more of the show. Maria Bartiromo will host next week. Special guest will be Alan Blake, Large Growth Manager, Smith Barney. The panel will be Mary Farrell, Brian Rogers, and Marty Zweig. Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser, Louis Rukeyser
-- posted by SteveT » Kirk - Re: 7-9-04 .In response to message posted by SteveT: Thanks Steve Stocks Gretchen Lash likes are Staples (SPLS), Lowe’s (LOW), and General Electric (GE). <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > Lou Holland likes quality stocks like weight Watchers (WTW), International Speedway (ISCA), and Willis Group Holdings (WSH). <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > Stocks Elizabeth Dater likes are Denbury Resources (DNR), Ask Jeeves (ASKJ), and Covance (CVD). <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > Stocks Bob Freohlich likes are Citigroup (C), Merrill Lynch (MER), JP Morgan Chase (JPM), Intel (INTC), Cisco (CSCO), and Motorola (MOT. <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > <img width=520 height=468 src=http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Sharp... > Louis Rukeyser Fan Club Hosted by Suite101.com As of 8/2/05, the Total Return for "Kirk's Newsletter Portfolio" since 12/31/98 is 171%. (Up 4.5% YTD vs QQQQ flat YTD) As of 6/30/2005 since 12/31/98
Even if you don’t market time or buy individual stocks, my newsletter offers quite a bit of useful information and tables (Discussion of interest rates, The Fed Model, etc.) which many say are worth the price of the subscription on its own. Show your support for my work at Suite101.com and become a subscriber today! -- posted by Kirk » SteveT - 7-16-04 Consuelo Mack once again served as guest host. Earnings were the major new across Wall Street this week. Earnings have been strong but most are expect earnings to decelerate. Citigroup reported strong earnings but set aside nearly $5 Billion for future costs associated with scandals and Pfizer warned of lower revenue. Stock prices of these companies took significant hits. On the bright side Treasury Bonds rallied. Inflation showed signs of moderating in June. In the courtroom news was not so good for Martha Stewart. Mark Belnick was found not guilty of all criminal charges against him while serving as Lawyer for Tyco. Marty Zweig says the market is pretty neutral and so are the indicators he follows. Earnings are decent but inflation offsets that. He is worried longer term about inflation. It is trending up, oil is up again, and commodities have been rising over the last year. Low interest rates and the tax cuts have taken awhile to work into the system to cause inflation but that is starting to happen now. Zweig runs hedge funds and he is currently about 60% net long and calls that neutralish. He expects the market to be neutral and is trying to grind it out by stock picking. Stocks he likes now are Phelps Dodge (PD), Etna, W.R. Berkley (BER), and Berkshire Hathaway (BRKa). Marty advises holding both stocks and bonds, not to exit the market and not to make any majors bets either. Mary Farrell said there is a tug of war going on between rising rates and inflation vs. good earnings, which should last a couple more quarters. Investor seem to be focusing on the uncertainties of rates, inflation, Iraq, oil prices, and the election. Farrell isn’t overly concerned about inflation. She thinks the FED will get it under control and have Short term rates up to around 2.5% by next year, which isn’t problematic. Mary expects the market to return around 8%- 10% over the next 12 months. Stocks she likes are United Health Group (UNH), McDonald’s (MCD), and Air Products & Chemicals (APD). Brian Rogers is tired of hearing about Martha Stewart. Earnings have been generally good and as scandal problems are resolved he believes investor confidence will slowly build. Modest expectations are going to be key to avoid disappointment. Brian advises looking for good earnings and dividends. Stocks he likes are Comcast (CMCSA), Dow Jones (DJ), and Viacom (VIA). Mack the introduced special guest will be Alan Blake, Large Growth Manager, Smith Barney. Alan is a bottoms up manager. He does have an opinion on the over all market but that does not influence how he picks stocks. He has a list of around forty stocks that fit his criteria, which include a market cap in excess of $5 Billion, fairly unique product or service, powerful balance sheets, and a good management team. Growth is somewhat defined by industry. For tech he likes to see growth of more than 20%, for consumer stocks 10-15% is acceptable. He will buy when the price is right. His $6 Billion fund owns 32 stocks and has a turn over rate of 5%-10%. He likes to buy growth stocks when they are under a cloud. If they get expensive he will trim the position but he never plays the binary game of all in or all out of a stock or the market. Now that some stocks have come down in price he uses cash flow to add to them. He will sell a stock entirely only when the reason he bought it changes. Stocks that fit the buy criteria now are Eli Lily (LLY), Coca-Cola (KO), Amgen (AMGN), and Interactive, check Lou’s web site to narrow this one down. My guess is either (IACI) or (ININ). http://www.rukeyser.com/tvshow/guestsnpa... Marty asked if there is a limit on how high the P/E is for Alan to purchase. It depends on the industry. Tech he is willing to pay nearly 2 times the growth rate, in financials he likes to buy them at a discount to the market. In long term investing 80% of getting it right is buying at proper valuation and that is where you should spend the majority of your time in research. Mary asked how Blake handled the bear market. He “let the stocks speak”. As tech got wildly expensive he kept trimming positions. He shifted that capital to cheap stocks like Media and Pharmaceutical areas. Brian asked if there were any sectors he shied away from. He tends to only be in consumer related, tech, health care, and financial services. Consuelo asked for one must own stock for all investors. Alan said he couldn’t do that. He recommends being diversified, looking for reasonable valuation, a dividend yield of more than 2%, and the ability to increase dividends. Maria Bartiromo is scheduled to host next week. Special guest will be Bob Doll, Investment Managers Chief Investment Officer, Merrill Lynch. The panel will be Harvey Eisen, Frank Gannon, and Barbara Marcin.
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