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Market Timing: Should You Attempt It?Read the article this discussion is about
This archived discussion is "read only". « Previous 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 Next » » Kirk - Merrill cuts U.S. equity allocation http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020114/l14351490...Monday January 14, 4:50 am Eastern Time RESEARCH ALERT-Merrill cuts U.S. equity allocation LONDON, Jan 14 (Reuters) - U.S. retail broker Merrill Lynch on Monday rejigged its recommended asset allocation for the U.S. market by cutting back on stocks and raising exposure to bonds, but left its cash portion unchanged. ``We have commented that there is a thin line between a liquidity-driven market that anticipates improving fundamentals and a bubble,'' Merrill's Chief U.S. Strategist Richard Bernstein said in a research note. ``The equity market may have stepped over that line.'' Merrill's new allocation recommends a portfolio with 50 percent in stocks, 30 percent in bonds and 20 percent in cash, compared with 60 percent stocks, 20 percent bonds and 20 percent cash before. Equity valuations in the United States now ``seem extreme'', Merrill said. The price/earnings to growth rate of the S&P 500 index is now higher than during 1987. Merrill's allocation for equities is now below its benchmark or neutral stance of 60 percent stocks, 30 percent bonds and 10 percent cash. -- posted by Kirk » Kirk - Article from Individual Investor Magazine I found this article on Don Wolanchuk's Web Site:http://www.wolanchuk.com/iimedia.htm Article from Individual Investor Magazine Out of the Chester Boot Shop in Roseville, Mich., Don Wolanchuk peddles Doc Martens shoes, leather vests, 10-gallon hats—and stock tips. Wolanchuk is the largest Doc Martens dealer in the Detroit area and, by some accounts, one of the greatest market seers ever. Patrons pay either $2.75 a minute, or $8,000 a year, to access his market advice on a 900 number. Calls come in from around the country, and Wolanchuk says someone at George Soros' fund management company phones regularly. Timer Digest, a Greenwich, Conn., newsletter that tracks about 100 investment advisers, clocked Wolanchuk's forecasts over the past eight years at a 20.2% annualized return, beating the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index by an average 3.6 percentage points. So why is Wolanchuk selling shoes instead of skippering a multibillion-dollar hedge fund? That's easy: because he's a market timer, and has the nerve to be out of the closet about it. Market timing—predicting the stock market's tops and bottoms, and moving quickly from cash to stocks and back again in anticipation of them—is one of the Street's biggest taboos. So how did 94% of 36 market timers tracked by Steve Shellans of MoniResearch beat the S&P 500 during the third-quarter downturn, and why have 33% never had a bad quarter in five years? Is market timing unfairly condemned? Probably. But investors hoping to capitalize on the strategy better beware: It's easier said than done. The Worst of Times Only recently, somewhere along the rocket-like trajectory of the greatest bull market ever, did market timing become verboten. ("As a market timer with a 900 number, I'm working against the two worst reputations in this world," Wolanchuk quips.) It was big in the 1970s, during the flat market. And timers such as Elaine Garzarelli, who alerted clients to sell shortly before Black Monday in 1987, made some good calls in the '80s. So why did market timing become such dirty words? A number of bad calls, including Garzarelli's 1996 bear cry that sullied her reputation, turned big-name market timers into bull market roadkill. The growing dominance of mutual fund investing also set market timers back, because portfolio managers detest mass movements out of their funds, which can exaggerate losses if the fund has to liquidate positions to cash out investors. Timers themselves can come off as a pretty wacky breed, with Wolanchuk a textbook example: "Individual investors don't have a chance," he says. "The boys in the back rooms of Goldman Sachs and other institutions have the market rigged." But for all that, closet timers abound. "Asset allocation models are clearly market timing," says Edward Yardeni, chief economist at Deutsche Bank Securities. Set by top strategists at brokerages and investment banks, the models tell investors how to divide their dollars among stocks, cash, and bonds. Some analysts change their allocation models quarterly, if not monthly. Greg Smith, chief investment strategist at Prudential Securities, discourages short-term investing, but his asset allocation model seems to recommend it: He modified it 10 times in 1998, twice in October alone. The always ebullient Abby Joseph Cohen of Goldman Sachs may seem like the poster gal for buy and hold, but even she changed her allocation model in October, upping her weighting in stocks to 65% from 60% and lowering the cash position to 5% from 10%. Many fund managers time the market, too, though most, like Robert M. Gintel of Gintel & Co., recoil when asked about it. "I'm not even sure what the term market timing means," Gintel says. Still, consider his behavior. Early last year, Gintel began selling his holdings. Since then, the cash position of the Gintel fund has grown to $43 million, or 31% of the portfolio. Now Gintel sees a more stable market, so he's buying again. But don't call him, well, one of those guys. "I'm not buying this month because I think the market is going to go up," he protests, "but because I see companies I want to invest in." Robert J. Markman, who manages funds-of-funds portfolios at Markman Capital Management, says timing doesn't offer any long-term payoff. But he recently shifted his portfolio from its traditional stance of 50% in large-cap funds to 95% and cut his international exposure. "Market timing is making a broad call on the market, like when you get out of stocks and into cash," he says. "I'm just managing money." Huh? Carolyn Mertens, president of the Society of Asset Allocators and Fund Timers, thinks guys like Markman are fooling themselves. "The majority of our members do the same thing as any fund manager," she says. "They're protecting their assets, and that's what market timing is today." Theory into Practice For such a simple concept, market timing is amazingly difficult to pull off. "The fact that most people have failed at it doesn't mean it can't be done. It just means that most people don't know how," says Kenneth S. Ray, president of Æxpert Advisers. Don Wolanchuk says the first step is realizing that bottom lines and balance sheets are worthless. "Individuals are trained to believe that the market moves on all that fundamental stuff, but that's a smoke screen," he says. Many market timers lean toward technical indicators, such as advance/decline lines, which track the number of stocks going up versus the number of losers, but Wolanchuk prefers the esoteric. It takes a sophisticated understanding of mathematics to follow his favorite tools. For instance, Wolanchuk believes the market is ruled by Fibonacci sequences—number patterns that seem to determine the architecture of all nature's bounty, from the number of petals on a sunflower to the shape and size of a shell—and he is a follower of Elliot Wave Theory, which says the market moves in a predictable, five-wave sequences: three waves moving in the direction of a trend, alternating with two counterwaves. Through the course of any day, he will look at reams of data from oscillator patterns, which measure the strength of the market, to put/call ratios, which gauge the direction options investors are betting the market will go. But even Wolanchuk, one of the cockier timers around, agrees: picking market tops and bottoms is more art than science. What's Good for the Goose... Then again, so is picking the Next Great Growth Stock. So should we all start timing the market? "If you are a conservative investor, modest market timing makes sense," says Warren Boroson, editor of the newsletter Mutual Fund Digest. "And the older you are, the more you should tilt toward having money in a market-timing fund." Two he likes are Vanguard Asset Allocation, which was up 16.1% this year through October and has returned an average of 21.4% annually over the past three years, and Merriman Asset Allocation, which uses four timing indicators to spread risk. Merriman, however, hasn't performed well—it has returned an average of only 10.8% annually for the past three years (compared to an S&P 500 return of 25.4%). Michael O'Higgins, who invented the Dow Dogs strategy, is one of the few portfolio managers who does recommend that individuals time the market, though he strongly warns, "People do too much of it." In his new book, Beating the Dow with Bonds (HarperBusiness), O'Higgins suggests investors make a timing call once a year, deciding whether to invest in stocks or bonds, based on the earnings yield of stocks. If the earnings yield of the Dow Jones industrial average and the S&P 500 is less than the interest investors would get on 30-year Treasuries, then O'Higgins opts for bonds. Of course, that strategy would have taken you out of stocks in the early 1980s, missing that decade's bull market. Currently, O'Higgins owns zero coupon bonds, and his newly formed O'Higgins fund was up 24% through the first three quarters of 1998. What makes Wolanchuk's 10-year performance so incredible? Market timers, he says, tend to overplay their bearish hands. "I learned early on that to be king of the market timers, you just had to be bullish as hell," he says. And it has worked (at least in the abstract: Wolanchuk's performance is based on his market calls; he has never managed a fund). Based on his telephone service, at the end of last year, Timer Digest ranked him the best market timer for 1997. He also won the award for best timer for the past eight-year, five-year, three-year, and two-year periods. Wolanchuk doesn't see the market turning down again soon. "I think the Dow can hit 16,000 in the next couple of months," he says. It's that type of prediction that can make even loyal Wolanchuk followers shake their heads. But consider this: in 1989, when the Dow was near 2700, Wolanchuk predicted the 1990s would end over 10,000. Earlier this year it flirted with 9400, and there's still 12 months to go. -- posted by Kirk » soonertimer - Re: Article from Individual Investor Magazine In response to message posted by Kirk:Sure looks to me that this article was written at the beginning of 1999! His strategy to be "bullish as hell", may not have produced many glowing articles over the last couple of years. :-) -- posted by soonertimer » mdorsey - Another month of good results for timers. After two years and 1 month the move to cash or bonds in Jan 2000 is still looking great. I am personally ahead of where I would have been by 40% if I had just held my stock funds for that period. Some will say timing can't be done. Well maybe so but, time will tell.-- posted by mdorsey » Kirk - Terry Savage says "Don't Time the Market" Good article by the 2/9/02 host of ABC's "Moneytalk"http://www.suntimes.com/output/savage/cs... Conclusion of her article: Don't try to beat the market: "It should actually be a relief to learn that one of the most important laws of investing is that nobody can outsmart the market," says Glassman. Instead of "outsmarting" the market, he advises you to "partake"--just be invested in good stocks. Time is money: "Time is the single most important factor in investing--more important than the stocks or bonds you pick or your cleverness in buying or selling at just the right moment," says Glassman, advising parents to start teaching and investing for their children while they are young. Good advice! -- posted by Kirk » Kirk - Top 10 Timers are Bearish As I postDJIA = 10,034(just pushed through) Nasty = 1877 SPX = 1124 To:David Stern who wrote (962) well....more fuel for the bull....for the first time ever Timer Digests top ten timers are all bearish....in the past 20 years that has never happened...9 out of ten happened in may 87 just before a blast off....but they only stayed bearish for a few days......this report coming after 2000 pts up is unprecedented and extraordinarily bulllish.... Wolanchuk used to be followed by Timer Digest and he'd win most every time so they stopped following him saying he "issued too many trading signals" even though the record says he issued fewer than typical. Wolanchuk is currently VERY, VERY bullish so lets see if he again beats the top 10 timers! -- posted by Kirk » way2go - tyc-- insiders timing?? http://biz.yahoo.com/t/t/tyc.html how can you tell if they are covering shorts or really buying??-- posted by way2go » SteveT - How to Avoid Temptations That Threaten Your Success http://www.russell.com/us/Education_Cent...I found this article on the Frank Russell web site. Back to Basics Editor's Note: The recent bear market has given investors an opportunity to revisit basic ideas for successful investing and why they work in both up and down markets. This is the final article in a three-part "Back to Basics" series. Temptations Can Pull You Off Track
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Put Performance Hype in Perspective These headlines do sell magazines, because so many investors want the prestige of owning a "five-star fund." Yet, authoritative studies have documented that selecting funds on past performance gives you only a random chance of success at best. In many cases, last year's best performing funds lag next year's averages, as styles that have been hot start to cool. Avoid the Temptation Time Is On Your Side, But Timing Is Not Avoid the Temptation Manager Selection Has Grown More Challenging At Russell, we recognize that there are now more mutual funds in the world than stocks listed on exchanges, and most investors have as much difficulty selecting managers as individual stocks. Evaluating managers isn't getting easier for the individual investor, either. Avoid the Temptation Market Momentum Can Change Your Risk Level Avoid the Temptation Conceptually, you should recognize the need for a "constant level of risk" represented by a specific mix of asset classes. This can be difficult, because it's natural to want to ride a bull market all the way to the peak with the hottest stocks. But that's a little like trying to climb Mt. Everest in a snowstorm. You don't know where the peak is, and the higher you climb the farther you can tumble back down. If you don't take advantage of automatic rebalancing, it's a good idea to review your portfolio mix quarterly ? especially when the market has made a significant move. The Value of Patience + Perspective -- posted by SteveT » SPYDR22000 - FODDER FOR THE DEBATE I have personally developed many successful mrkt.timing schemes where back testing is the only criteria 8) -- posted by SPYDR22000 » KLR - Re: FODDER FOR THE DEBATE In response to message posted by SPYDR22000:Hey Spydr, I read that article too. Basically it says buy above the 100DMA and sell below. This is what back-tested results look like.... "...We back-tested this system using the Nasdaq Index ($COMPQ: news, chart, profile). Without timing, the index had an annualized return of 11.8 percent in the 30 years from 1972 through 2001. Along the way, its largest decline was 76 percent. When timed with the 100-day moving average, the index's return rose to 18.9 percent, and its largest decline was 38 percent. To put that in perspective, an initial investment of $10,000 in 1972 would have grown to $283,958 without timing or to $1.8 million using this simple timing system. Timing multiplied the return by 6.3 while cutting the risk in half. I wonder how such a "system" works in shorter time frames? -- posted by KLR « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 Next » Please follow the guidelines set forth in the Suite101 Posting Etiquette when adding to the discussion. |
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