Joe Battipaglia


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Top 113.   Dec 11, 2000 6:35 PM

» Rande - 12/11 Joe:

12/11 Joe:

http://www.gruntal.com/research/joeb.html


One vote. That may ultimately be the difference in this election should the U/S/ Supreme Court rule shortly with a 5-4 decision. Closure is key for the investment community – the sooner the better.

Meanwhile, in last week’s “Weekly Perspective”, I said that investors should look to several key dates as providing near-term catalysts for the markets. These dates include the December 12th deadline for the Florida legislature to appoint all of it’s 25 electors – a process made clear, hopefully, by way of a Supreme Court ruling today. By December 19th, I expect the Federal Reserve to adopt a neutral policy bias toward monetary policy and will seek to ease credit conditions further in the new-year through a series of interest rate cuts and increased liquidity through the use of normal open market operations. Lastly, I expect that by December 25th, the consumer will again come through in full force as consumers again choose to spend despite a difficult year for the stock market. In this regard, I am encouraged by last week’s Beige Book survey that suggested retailers had experienced an “unexpectedly strong rebound in sales over Thanksgiving weekend” despite a slow start to the month of November. The survey also noted that most retailers throughout the country “expressed a general sense of optimism about the remainder of the holiday season”. This would seem to corroborate recent data from the Federal Reserve that showed the level of consumer credit expanding by a healthy 7% versus the year ago period.

Inventory levels remain somewhat higher than ideal, however, and sales of personal computers and automobiles continue to grow at a somewhat less than expected rate. As a result, businesses will aggressively seek to clear out excess inventory in the coming months through a combination of increased incentives and a modest cutback in production schedules. Since inventory levels remain low relative to overall sales, and since businesses are responding quickly to excess stocks, I expect that the coming inventory adjustment will be short lived and have no severe or long lasting impacts on the economy. As inventories return to leaner levels, companies should find it easier to again exceed already lowered growth expectations in the coming quarters.

Businesses have already begun to address short-term imbalances by reducing the length of the workweek and laying off temporary or part-time help. Most businesses have stopped short of traditional layoffs, however, since skilled employees remain hard to find. According to last week’s employment report for November, the unemployment rate rose fractionally to 4% from 3.9% in October. The manufacturing workweek grew shorter, however, as the average number of hours worked fell to 41.1 hours – the shortest workweek since January, 1996. The Federal Reserve’s most recent Beige Book survey also sited a slight easing in the labor market for “information technology” workers as the result of a number of recent dot-com failures. The report also noted that the shakeout in dot-com businesses has raised the supply of previously scarce IT workers and has discouraged many IT workers from leaving traditional companies for start-ups. Previously, the Federal Reserve voiced concerns over the shrinking labor pool, but it now seems as if some of this pressure may be abating.

Lastly, I am encouraged by the reaction of investors to negative announcements by both Motorola and Intel. In each case, the stock prices remained relatively unaffected despite further announced shortfalls – a marked departure from the reaction to previous warnings. This relatively strong performance in the face of more bad news suggests to me that the market may have completed the process of adjusting expectations to reflect the slowing economy. With multiples already compressed in many cases, I expect to see better relative performance by technology companies in the weeks and months ahead as tired expectations are re-energized by surprisingly good results.

-- posted by Rande



Top 114.   Dec 18, 2000 6:56 AM

» Rande - Weekly Joe:

Weekly Joe:

http://www.gruntal.com/research/joeb.html


This year’s election drama ended as all the others – with a concession speech and the victor’s commitment to lead. Investors wasted no time turning attention to recession fears that snuffed out any post – election rally. While the electors vote on December 18th, it’s the Federal Reserve’s turn to speak on the 19th.

This will be a particularly important meeting given the pronounced slowdown in activity across many sectors of the U.S. economy. This slowdown began to evidence itself last spring in the form of a mild rise in jobless claims for factory workers. At the time, I argued that the Federal Reserve should adopt a neutral policy stance given the historically exceptional degree of price stability in the economy. Nonetheless, the Federal Reserve chose to pursue a policy of tight credit setting the level of real short term rates between 4½ to 4¾% - the highest level since the fall of 1998 and late 1999. Last week’s announced profit warnings from Microsoft, Chase Manhattan Bank, JP Morgan, United Parcel Service and Black and Decker raised new fears of a “hard landing” scenario. When global software companies, banks, delivery companies and consumer cyclical companies like these seem to be stumbling, it is hard not to take notice. Nonetheless, this sort of thing has happened before and the recession scenario quietly slipped off the table while the major stock market indices marched on to new records.

The problems facing banks and other financial institutions have received particular attention of late. Among the primary concerns are widening credit spreads for lower quality debt instruments and spotty problems regarding syndicated loans. These do not indicate an emerging credit crunch. Widening credit spreads for high yield issues do not automatically signal the start of a recession. This market, roughly $300 billion in size (according to Goldman, Sachs estimates), remains relatively small and has struggled since late 1998. Given the relatively small size of this market, a wide array of industry specific issues and the long duration of the market’s downturn, present performance is not a good indication of future growth in the economy. Similar concerns have been raised about non-performing syndicated loans. In fact, non-performing loans remain at historically low levels. Based on Federal Reserve statistics, loan charge-offs remain below 1% of the outstanding stock and the percentage of delinquent loans remains near 2%. Both of these measures are at the low end of the range for this economic cycle. In the early 1990’s, for example, it was common to see charge-offs running between 1 and 2% while delinquency rates ranged from 4 to 6%. With lending standards having already been tightened and inventory adjustments already underway, I believe that a true “credit crunch” scenario remains highly unlikely. As the Federal Reserve eases credit, expands liquidity and businesses move quickly to purge excess inventory, the chances of a “credit crunch” induced recession will grow more remote with each passing month.

Analysts have already slashed their expectations for these companies and many others according to recent data from First Call. For the first quarter of 2001, earnings growth estimates have been cut to just 8.6% from 16.6% last summer. The full year growth estimate has fallen to 10.7% from almost 16% during the same period. While these expected growth rates are significantly lower than we’ve become accustomed to in the last several quarters, they are not “recession” type growth rates. In the first quarters of 1990, 1991 and 1998, for example, S&P 500 reported earnings actually fell -21.7%, -7.8%, and –1.7%, respectively. But as estimates continue to fall, now is the time for the Federal Reserve to signal an end to tight credit and implement two rate cuts in the first half of next year. Given several months of confirmation from friendly inflation data, more moderate energy prices and new signs of easing in the labor markets, I see no reason for the Fed not to undertake such an action at this time. Judging by the tone of the Fed chairman’s comments on December 2nd, I believe we are about to hear from a “kinder, more gentle” Federal Reserve.

Should the Federal Reserve choose to do the right thing in the coming months ahead, I believe the roadmap for 2001 should involve the following:

- A brief period of inventory adjustment lasting into the spring where companies will briefly sacrifice margins to eliminate unwanted inventory. Inventories continue to run a little higher than ideal, but are far more manageable than in earlier cycles.

- Heavy discounts and incentives will help the CPI move even lower than the current 2.6% year-over-year rate. The PPI has taken the early lead in this regard with the core rate falling to just a 1% year-over-year pace in November.

- Energy prices ease and the Dollar finally takes a rest.

- The yield curve begins to flatten as the Fed initiates at least two rate cuts by the end of the first half. Credit spreads for lower grade corporate debt begin to narrow.

- By the end of the second quarter, most inventories have been adjusted and earnings expectations will be easily beat since today’s expectations are extremely bearish. 2001 should be yet another year of record earnings for most companies.

I recently introduced my 2001 price targets and although this year fell short of expectations, the factors mentioned above form a good basis for favorable equity market performance in 2001. My year-end 2001 price targets are 12,700 for the Dow Jones Industrial Average, 1,650 for the S&P 500 and 4,300 for the NASDAQ composite.

-- posted by Rande



Top 115.   Dec 20, 2000 1:28 PM

» Kirk - Joe on TV

Joe is giving a VERY good interview on CNBC

He says a diversified portfolio might be down 8-12% (as my expereince says also)

They hammered him for being bullish all year:
He says it is quite normal for the NASDAQ or technology go have 40, 50 or even 60% corrections and that is sure hurting that portion of his portfolio, but THAT is why he recommends a diverse portfolio to begin with. He says OTHER areas he recommends are doing very well (same with my portfolios!).

Those with higher tech have higher ups and downs...only natural.

Sees very good valuation NOW in technology and thinks the gains there will be huge next year.

-- posted by Kirk



Top 116.   Jan 1, 2001 8:05 AM

» JackSwanson - Re: Joe on TV

And Jack says Dunderhead Joe is no better at reading and interpreting economic date than say, the average drunk on the street. He wasn't diversified. He was totally loaded in tech and telecom. Thats all he ever talked about, maybe a financial here and there, but Joe looks like a complete idiot, then, and now.

Cap'n..I'm with you. The naz won't set new highs for four years, and Dunderhead thinks it will happen a lot closer than that.

An even worse Dunderhead would be Michael Murphy. I'm still seeking performance numbers on him. You know he won't post them himself. But his picks, just since labor day have been a disaster.

-- posted by JackSwanson



Top 117.   Jan 1, 2001 8:26 AM

» Kirk - Wrong Jack

In response to message posted by JackSwanson:

You and many others got excited with the gains made in technology and put all your eggs in one basket. The basked was dropped and some eggs broke.

Read Joe's site
http://www.gruntal.com/research/joeb.html

He has had an asset allocation mix posted since the beginning.

The WHOLE IDEA of these firms is to under and over weight sectors so you buy and sell stocks in these sectors and pay them to help you either for more specific advice or to do the buying and sellling for you. You might have to pay them to find if "over weight technology" means 35% rather than 30% but by no means were they saying "Jack, put 99% of your assets into technology stocks".

Part of your "learning process" is to take responsibility for your mistakes, to learn that guru's are there to get on TV and sell their products and they do this by having good information they give away for free in the hopes you pay them for more. This is an age old process... Give away free samples. It works for drug dealers, CostCo and Financial Products to name a few. This even works for me as many have hired me after reading what I write here, on Silicon Investor and in my newsletter. Exposure works. In the old days, you join a Rotary Club but now we have TV and the internet to go with the old, person-to-person networking.

-- posted by Kirk



Top 118.   Jan 2, 2001 10:15 AM

» KLR - No Excuses for Ol' Joe...Just Add Some More Companies...

Look for 2001 to be a year of positive surprises. We are adding transportation companies to our "outperform" rated sectors alongside financials, pharmaceuticals, and technology. Our 2001 year-end targets remain 12,700 on the Dow (INDU: news, msgs), 1,625 on the S&P 500 (SPX: news, msgs) and 4,300 on the NASDAQ (NASDAQ: news, msgs).

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/archive/20010...

-- posted by KLR



Top 119.   Jan 11, 2001 2:34 PM

» SteveT - NBR last night

Full transcript canbe found here (with a little looking, no direct link available)
http://www.nightlybusiness.org/news_acti...

01/10/01: Wall Street Bull Joe Battipaglia's Market Forecast

SUSIE GHARIB: Well, these are turbulent times-not only for the airline industry, but also for the stock market. My market guest tonight is forecasting clear skies ahead. Joining me live is Joe Battipaglia, Chief Investment Officer at Gruntal and Company. Well, bullish-as usual.

JOE BATTIPAGLIA, CHIEF INVESTMENT OFFICER, GRUNTAL & COMPANY: Good to see you. Yes. Last year was a big disappointment. Valuations got stretched. Some of the things that happened stayed too long. We had Fed tightening, higher energy prices, and to add insult to injury, an election that wasn't over in one day. Those are unusual circumstances that happily, will not be repeated this year.

GHARIB: Well, I'm looking at your targets for the Dow and the NASDAQ and the S&P, and they're pretty much the same ones that you had last year: 12,700 on the Dow; 4300 on the NASDAQ; 1650 on the S&P. What gives?

BATTIPAGLIA: Right. Well I think what happens here is, we clearly will have more Fed easing and more money going into the economy. We will also see an economy that decelerates to two-percent growth-not a recession-and actually reaccelerate in the second half of the year. We'll have lower energy prices. We'll have a dollar that's lower against the euro, which helps the translation of foreign earnings. And, of all surprises, we may get decent leadership out of Washington on the issue of tax relief, regulatory relief etc., things that we're not really looking for because of the difficult election.

GHARIB: Joe, what do you see that could be impediments to this strong market forecast that you have?

BATTIPAGLIA: Bad policy decisions coming out of Washington. Clearly, the Fed turn to an easing stance is a major, major league positive. The Middle East. We haven't solved the problems there. You could argue they're getting exacerbated. And if energy prices then move through 30 once again, it'll put a damper on spending, a damper on recovery, and in turn, dampen analysts. And by the way, the other big surprise will be, analysts who have gotten so negative about the outlook, actually starting to turn positive in the coming weeks and months and raising estimates for the rest of the year to propel the market higher.

GHARIB: In your portfolios, you've had a heavy weighting in technology stocks.

BATTIPAGLIA: Yes.

GHARIB: How do you feel about technology going into 2001?

BATTIPAGLIA: Technology stocks are going to be principal drivers of portfolio value. However, that being said, they're still very volatile; and now, they are, indeed, tied to how the economy fares. I happen to think the economy doesn't do as poorly and comes out faster, which means you want to own these stocks. But the volatility is something an investor has to get used to, unlike in the past when the market had less volatility but slower growth rates, too.

GHARIB: All right, so within technology, I mean that's a really big area.

BATTIPAGLIA: Sure.

GHARIB: What are the sectors-or name us some of the stocks…

BATTIPAGLIA: Well, I would…

GHARIB: …that you would be willing to buy right now.

BATTIPAGLIA: I'm eager to get on with the question. Semiconductors and semiconductor equipment companies. I don't think that cycle is over. I think the penetration of semiconductors, continues. So obviously, you want to own Intel (INTC) and LSI Logic (LSI) and Applied Materials (AMAT). Software-we still have a build out for the Internet where we need real-time connectivity, whether we want to call that B-to-B or something else. So clearly, Microsoft (MSFT) is something I want to look at in that regard. Beyond that, fiber optics, we still need to build out the systems there. JDSU (JDSU) has been sold down aggressively. Corning (GLW) glass has been sold down aggressively. And then in telecom services. We have built the pipe. We're waiting for the clients to come. We've disappointed the Street because it's not coming fast enough. But when you look at Telephone (T) and Sprint (FON) and WorldCom (WCOM), suddenly there's great value there and you want to own these stocks.

GHARIB: Real quickly, we have little time. Outside of technology, for investors who want to stay away from that, name us your three favorites.

BATTIPAGLIA: Well, happily in 2000, we had pharmaceutical stocks which proved the experts wrong and did very well. We had financial service companies, which also did reasonably well. We'd stay there.

GHARIB: Quickly, name a few.

BATTIPAGLIA: J.P. Morgan (JPM) comes to mind. First Union (FTU), Goldman Sachs (GS) in the financials. Merck (MRK), Pfizer (PFE), Johnson & Johnson (JNJ). Those are the kind of stocks that won't have any problem overall.

GHARIB: All big-name companies. OK, thank you very much, Joe.

BATTIPAGLIA: My pleasure.

GHARIB: Again, happy new year.

BATTIPAGLIA: Thank you.

GHARIB: Glad to have you. We've been speaking with Joe Battipaglia of Gruntal & Company.

-- posted by SteveT



Top 120.   Jan 11, 2001 9:16 PM

» JenL_2 - Battipaglia

This post copied from the "BB Discussion" thread:


Author: Fahrenheit451
Date: January 11, 2001 2:47 PM
Subject: Battipaglia

Looks like Brinker is not the only guru whose followers are upset:

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk...


to illustrate:

<img src="/files/mysites/Jen/battipagliastargets.gif" width=497 height=435>
http://markpoyser.com/recent.htm

.....Jen

-- posted by JenL_2



Top 121.   Jan 11, 2001 10:16 PM

» JenL_2 - Joey Bagodonuts today predicted a 70% rise in the Nasdaq.

More Joe B. comments copied from "BB Discussion" thread:


Author: Mark_J
Date: January 11, 2001 8:01 PM
Subject: Joey Bagodonuts today predicted a 70% rise in the Nasdaq.

Joey Bagodonuts today predicted a 70% rise in the Nasdaq. Of course, don't know if this will be as successfull as his Naz 5500 forcast for Dec 31,2000 and then revised Naz 4300 forcast for Dec 31, 2000. Lets hope the third time is the charm for the donut boy and he gets it right this time!

Mark


Author: ACousins
Date: January 11, 2001 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Joey Bagodonuts today predicted a 70% rise in the Nasdaq.

In response to message posted by Mark_J:

Of course, don't know if this will be as successfull as his Naz 5500 forcast for Dec 31,2000 and then revised Naz 4300 forcast for Dec 31, 2000

Then he can join BB in the doghouse. Isn't that how this particular game is played?


-- posted by JenL_2



Top 122.   Jan 16, 2001 2:57 PM

» Rande - Joe

Joe

http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/current/...

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Employment data for December showed that the consumer is not as bad off as some economists might lead us to believe.

In fact, consumer spending for the month rose by 0.1% despite an expected drop of 0.4%. Could it be that despite the stock market's poor performance last year the typical household remains in very good condition? I think so.

Consider the following points about the typical American household.

1. The average family is becoming increasingly wealthy. At the end of the third quarter of last year, household net worth increased to approximately $42.5 trillion - up from $27.3 trillion at the end of 1995 when accounting for all assets and liabilities. This is an increase of 55% or $15.2 trillion in just under five years.

2. Jobs and paychecks are abundant. The unemployment rate currently stands at 4% despite several months of rising claims for unemployment. Likewise, wages are rising albeit slowly. Overall demand for workers remains high and workers displaced from fundamentally weak industries are just as quickly being hired by fundamentally strong industries.

3. The typical consumer is not carrying any more debt than normal at this stage of an economic expansion. Since the 1960's, excluding periods of recession, consumer credit as a percentage of disposable income has ranged between 18% and 21% according to a 1999 report by the Federal Reserve. With $7.3 trillion in annual disposable income and $1.4 trillion in outstanding consumer credit, today's ratio stands at just over 19% not too different from the historical average and does not signal that the consumer is in over his or her head. As a percentage of household net worth, total outstanding consumer credit has actually fallen to 31/2% during the third quarter of 2000 from 4% just five years ago.

4. Despite a wild ride for the NASDAQ over the past two years, bond investors and homeowners saw a gradual and persistent increase in the value of their total assets. The main point here is that the typical household maintains a diversified approach to managing cash, bonds, and stocks among other holdings such as real estate, pensions, and the occasional interest in a private business. This diversified approach has helped create and maintain massive amounts of household wealth during the past decade. Thus, the equity market correction of 2000 was absorbed by investors as if it were of the 10% variety typical of the Dow and S&P versus the more severe 40% correction in the NASDAQ composite.

5. The most widely held and most valuable asset continues to perform well. Specifically, homeowners continue to grow the equity value of their homes as the market for real estate remains vibrant. Between the third quarter of 1999 and 2000, for example, the aggregate value of household real estate assets increased by $923 billion over the prior year and home ownership rates rose. Compared to the 50% of all households that are invested in the stock market, and even greater 67% of American households own their own homes. With a rough value $10.7 trillion today, America's investment in the home represents about 21% of total household assets - approximately the same percentage invested in equities and mutual funds combined.

6. Inflation remains very low. Competition, deregulation and globalization have all helped the consumer to stay healthy. The days of spiraling, double-digit inflation has become a distant memory to most. For those who remember, the inflation ridden 1970's was not a good time to be a consumer. Today the situation is very different with most consumer prices up just 2.7% year-over-year. Look for heavy discounting in the first and second quarter along with more stable energy prices to ease this rate under 2%.

Since consumption accounts for nearly 2/3 of all spending in the economy, it is easy to see why this group is so important to the economy's overall growth. Consumer spending has ripple effects as well. Business and government budgets, for example, are tied directly to long-run projections about consumer behavior and good forecasts generally foreshadow continued investment by business and higher levels of tax receipts for government.

In the months ahead, I believe that a combination of easier credit and full payrolls will help the economy expand and I expect most companies to post better than currently forecast profits. With the Federal Reserve set to lower interest rates further, it is reasonable to expect additional borrowing as well as an increase in home mortgage re-financing. Based upon a Federal Reserve board study of the 1998-1999 credit re-financing boom, approximately $55 billion in annual consumption and investment was released into the economy from refinancing activity during that period. I believe that a similar period of re-financing activity may in store at this time.

Therefore, with the consumer strong and improvement likely as the year progresses, I believe investors are now faced with an excellent opportunity to fill out the equity portion of their portfolio with quality names across from wide swath of sectors. Our outperform rated sectors include transportation, financials, consumer durables, technology and depressed telecommunication services. Pharmaceuticals and consumer non-durables may indeed suffer from a brief period of group rotation in the near-term, but longer-term fundamentals remain excellent thanks to advancing science and significant demographic shifts now underway.

I remain bullish in my forecasts for a much better 2001. My year-end index targets remain 12,700 on the Dow Jones Industrial Average (INDU: news, msgs), 1,650 on the S&P 500 (SPX: news, msgs) and 4,300 on the NASDAQ composite (COMP: news, msgs).

-- posted by Rande



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