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Mutual Funds - General Discussion
This archived discussion is "read only". « Previous 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 Next » » 2win - Top fund to close Dec 31 Fidelity will close Low-Priced Stock Fund Dec. 31:http://news.morningstar.com/doc/news/0,,... The fund is included in Morningstar's top ten list: Kirk has often mentioned the Fidelity Low-Priced Stock Fund (FLPSX) as a long-time favorite. Dave J. -- posted by 2win » 2win - Re: Vanguard ETF's almost ready In response to message posted by radiodude:I've been looking at ETF's lately. Can you give the ticker symbols for the funds listed? This link includes some top regional ETFs: Indonesia Fund - IF On the above Bloomberg page, the funds can be sorted for performance by several different time periods: YTD, 1 week, 1 month, 3 months. Some of these are really hot! Dave J. -- posted by 2win » SteveT - He's not picky--he'll take whatever is wounded http://money.cnn.com/1999/01/15/zweig_on... This is an old article but has some timely comments. Ted Aronson is not your average money manager, and that's only half the story. Listen in to Jason Zweig's eye-opening conversation with him.By Jason Zweig Jason Zweig, MONEY's mutual funds columnist, conducted a lively interview with iconoclastic money manager Ted Aronson for the magazine's February issue. Here is a complete transcript of their conversation: Over the years, I've interviewed enough portfolio managers to fill a couple of Boeing 747s, and it's gotten to the point where there's very little that any of them can say to surprise me. Then I met Ted Aronson. He runs Aronson + Partners, a firm that manages more than $2 billion for big investors like Ameritech, the Florida Retirement System, the MacArthur Foundation and New York University. You normally need a minimum of $25 million to invest with Aronson, but he and his partners, Kevin Johnson and Martha Ortiz, also manage a mutual fund, Quaker Small-Cap Value, which was launched two years ago and holds just $11 million in assets (minimum investment: $10,000). Aronson, 47, has been managing money since 1974. He works out of a converted duplex apartment in an old building in downtown Philadelphia. Unlike most money managers' offices, it's not decorated with giant abstract paintings and stiff mahogany furniture. Instead, there are plenty of soft places to sit, and dozens of bulls and bears made out of glass, ceramic, wood, papier mache' or plush. Everywhere you turn -- even lining the walls of the office bathroom -- are antique stock and bond certificates to remind you that many of the most popular investments of the past turned out to be terrible failures. Aronson's biting humor even extends to the office postage meter, which stamps outgoing mail with the slogan, "Don't confuse brilliance with a bull market." Ted Aronson can barely open his mouth without challenging conventional wisdom. In fact, he's so blunt and provocative that even if you have no interest in his mutual fund you can become a wiser investor simply by hearing what he has to say. Q. You've said that investing in an actively managed fund (as opposed to a passively run index fund) is an act of faith. What do you mean? Q. Hold it. Did you say 800 years? Q. You're kidding, I hope. Q. You make it sound as if picking a good fund manager is completely hopeless. Q. Over the past ten years, the U.S. stock market has returned 19.2 percent annually. What do you foresee for future returns? Q. But haven't stocks returned somewhere between 9 percent and 11 percent annually over the long run? Q. Prof. Jeremy Siegel of the Wharton business school says stocks have returned an average of 8.5 percent annually ever since 1802. Q. You tell me. Q. Prof. Siegel says much of the difference comes from the lack of dividend reinvestment. Q. So stocks are a bad idea? Q. What's your investment philosophy? Q. Why don't more funds beat the market? Q. Why not? Q. Doesn't history prove that small stocks outperform large stocks over time? Q. When might they come back in favor? Q. What's a quant? Q. Do you think your fund, Quaker Small-Cap Value, can beat the market? Q. Among your fund's largest holdings are companies like Allegiance, Keane and Mariner Post-Acute Network. What can you tell us about their businesses? Q. Excuse me? Q. So you know nothing about these stocks? Q. What do you charge to run the fund? Q. But according to Lipper, Inc. only 106 out of 5,190 U.S. stock funds charge performance-incentive fees. If they're so good, why are they so rare? Q. Not very many, I'm afraid. Q. Do you invest in your fund? Q. Where? Q. You're an active fund manager who has nearly all his money in index funds? Q. Your fund did very well against the Russell 2000 index in 1998. Why? Q. You're saying that you performed so well not because of what you did but because of what your customers did? -- posted by SteveT » allancoleman - Re: He's not picky--he'll take whatever is wounded In response to message posted by SteveT:appreciate your digging this up steve . and you're right , this has timely comments . -- posted by allancoleman » SteveT - SEC Orders Mutual Funds Disclose Expenses http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st... SEC Orders Mutual Funds Disclose Expenses By Kevin Drawbaugh WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. market regulators on Wednesday ordered mutual funds to begin disclosing more about fund expenses borne by shareholders, in one of several moves to tackle the scandals engulfing the $7.4-trillion fund industry. The Securities and Exchange Commission (news - web sites) voted 5-0 to require that reports to fund shareholders will have to disclose the cost in dollars to each investor for an investment of $1,000 in the fund based on the fund's actual expenses for the period. To help investors compare costs of different funds, reports will also have to include cost figures for a $1,000 investment adjusted for a hypothetical, 5 percent annual return. SEC staff said that requiring cost disclosures itemized for individual investor's account -- which some investor activists have sought -- would be too costly to the fund industry. Amid continuing government probes of questionable fund share sales practices, the SEC also proposed barring funds from channeling brokerage business and commissions to Wall Street brokers that do the best job of selling the funds' shares. This practice -- known as directed brokerage -- is widespread and "ought to be prohibited because of the conflicts" of interest it poses, said SEC Investment Management Director Paul Roye at an open meeting of the commission. The SEC voted 5-0 to put the proposed ban out for public comment for two months, along with other proposed new limits on how fund companies may use marketing charges, known as 12b-1 fees, that investors incur. A final SEC vote will come later. At the request of SEC Chairman William Donaldson, the proposal will seek comment on whether the 12b-1 rule, stemming back to 1980, should be killed entirely. Donaldson called 12b-1 "a rule that maybe has outlived its usefulness." Originally meant to help funds cover their marketing and distribution costs, the rule today imposes fees that substitute for reduced sales loads, or charges, with the revenues coming in often involved in directed brokerage, SEC staffers said. "Rule 12b-1 fees and directed brokerage quietly generate a lot of money for people in the fund and broker-dealer industries, and unlike some of our other proposals, this one is going to hit them where it hurts," Donaldson said. The SEC voted 5-0 at its meeting to propose that mutual funds be required to explain in shareholder reports any decisions to hire, or recommend hiring, investment advisers. The proposal follows criticism that boards often merely rubber-stamp the hiring of advisers from fund management companies. The SEC said it hopes "to encourage fund boards to consider investment advisory contracts more carefully." The proposal will go out for a public-comment period of about two months, with a final SEC vote afterward. The commission further voted 5-0 to amend its disclosure rules so that funds would have to include more information about fund performance in annual reports to shareholders. In addition, the SEC ordered that mutual funds disclose their complete portfolio holdings quarterly to the agency, and summaries of their holdings semi-annually to investors. (Additional reporting by John Poirier) -- posted by SteveT » mitelo - Primecap and Capital Opportunity Closed --News Center Vanguard closes two equity funds Vanguard decided to close the two funds after consulting with the funds' investment advisor, PRIMECAP Management Company of Pasadena, California. PRIMECAP has managed the $23 billion PRIMECAP Fund since its inception in 1984 and the $7 billion Capital Opportunity Fund since 1998. PRIMECAP Fund, which is Vanguard's second-largest actively managed equity fund, and the Capital Opportunity Fund were among Vanguard's top performers in 2003, posting total returns of 36% and 48%, respectively.* (Note: Past performance—and especially short-term past performance—cannot be used to predict future returns. Share prices of the funds will fluctuate, so investors could lose money if they sell shares when prices have fallen. To obtain current performance, which may be lower or higher than the performance data quoted, visit the Funds area. Performance figures assume the reinvestment of dividends and capital gains distributions; the figures are pre-tax and net of expenses.) "While the funds' asset levels and cash flows are currently manageable, the likelihood for rising cash flows is clearly high, given the funds' strong performance," said Vanguard Chairman John J. Brennan. "Our responsibility lies with the funds' current clients, so we are taking these steps to preserve PRIMECAP Management's ability to employ its distinct investment strategy and pursue competitive long-term returns going forward." Vanguard has a long history of acting preemptively to restrict cash inflows and maintain fund assets at reasonable levels to protect existing shareholders, employing measures such as closing funds, raising their minimum initial investment amounts, and imposing redemption fees. In fact, Vanguard has closed both of these funds in the past: PRIMECAP (1995 and 1998) and Capital Opportunity (2000). Two other Vanguard® funds are currently closed: Vanguard® Precious Metals Fund and Vanguard® Global Equity Fund. -- posted by mitelo » Normxxx - Greedy Mutual Funds Greedy Mutual Funds Mutual Funds Force Investors to Hold Their Shares! Since the mutual fund scandals broke six months ago, mutual funds have been quick to take advantage of the situation. Investigators incorrectly described the scandal of the funds allowing their largest customers, mostly hedge fund managers, to trade after the market for other investors had closed, as 'market-timing'. So while awaiting whatever rules Congress or the regulators might impose to stop the practice, some funds began changing their 'market-timing' rules for ordinary investors (who were not part of the problem), to gouge more profits from them. It appears that, to stop the illegal after hours and overnight trades of hedge funds [which the hedge funds allegedly compensated the mutual funds for allowing], the SEC is considering requiring investors in some types of funds to hold for at least 5 days after buying the fund, or face a redemption fee. Some mutual funds jumped to take advantage of the situation for their own benefit by instituting redemption fees, of as much as 2%, on investors who do not hold their fund shares for at least three months, and in some cases six months. Not only is this using the situation (of hedge funds paying to be allowed to trade after hours), to gouge more profits from ordinary investors for no reason, but it will significantly affect investors' willingness to get out of the way when the market turns against them. Many won't be willing to deliberately pay that extra 2% to exit even when they expect the market could perhaps tumble into a bear market. Business Week quotes the president of an Ashville, NC money-management firm as saying, "It's the little investor who will get squeezed, while big investors who want to time the market can reap profits that far exceed the 2% fee." How much has the situation spread? Lipper Inc. says that already 1,140 mutual funds have imposed redemption fees, mostly set at 2%, when investors don't hold their funds for periods as long as a minimum of six months. Vanguard imposes the most onerous fees, 2% on shares redeemed in less than one year, and 1% on redemptions in less than four years. As Business Week puts it; "For years, funds have had the right to impose redemption fees, but many didn't because the charges would put them at a competitive disadvantage. Now that they're getting the green light from the SEC, funds are seizing the opportunity." Jumping into the situation as a means of cutting the costs of services they provide, a growing number of employers are assessing redemption fees of 1% to 1.5% in some mutual funds in their employee's 401K plans, if the employee wants to exit the fund in less than a minimum period. It is a reminder of the problem faced by Enron employees who were not allowed by the company to sell the Enron stock that was in their 401K and retirement plans, and had to watch their savings collapse. Several brokerage firms, including discount brokerage firms have also begun to impose fees of their own on their customers for 'early' withdrawals from mutual funds purchased by investors through their brokerage accounts. Too bad that just after this generation of investors, particularly those in Nasdaq stocks, learned from the bear market that buy & hold doesn't work long-term, and have taken up shorter-term holding periods, forces are piling up to compel them to hold when they may not want to do so. One way around the problem of mutual funds imposing redemption fees is of course to use Exchange-Traded-Funds (ETFs) instead of end-of-day priced mutual funds. Not only is the problem of redemption fees eliminated, but other problems like front or back-end loads, and having to wait for end of day prices also go away. And numerous advantages step in, like being able to buy them at their minute by minute price at any time during the trading day, through any brokerage firm, at minimum commissions, hold them for as long or as short a period as desired, being able to buy them on margin if leverage is desired, and at some brokerage firms being able to sell them short. The problem is that so many individual investors, the very ones most likely to be squeezed by the redemption fees and other expenses of normal mutual funds, do not understand ETFs. As reported in this week's Barron's, in a recent survey conducted by Ameritrade, 70% of respondents said they agreed with the statement "Buying stock is a sound investment"; 40.8% said "Stocks and mutual funds are worth buying"; but only 1.6% said they thought ETFs are "good vehicles for long-term investing." No wonder then that in spite of the many advantages of ETFs over standard mutual funds, there are only 135 listed ETFs, while there are more than 12,000 end-of-day priced mutual funds. Disclosure: The only mutual fund I own is a small investment (in an IRA account) in Hussman's Strategic Growth Fund. -- posted by Normxxx » SteveT - Templeton Funds Manager's Earns Up 58 Pct http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=...Templeton Funds Manager's Earns Up 58 Pct Thu Apr 22, 9:57 AM ET NEW YORK (Reuters) - Franklin Resources Inc. (NYSE:BEN - news), manager of the popular Templeton mutual funds, on Thursday reported quarterly earnings rose 58 percent, and said it would take a pretax charge of $60 million to cover costs related to probes into improper trading. The company said net income in the fiscal second quarter ended March 31 was $172.8 million, or 68 cents a share, up from $109.6 million, or 43 cents a share, a year earlier. The consensus estimate of 11 analysts was 71 cents a share, according to Reuters Research, Reuters Group Plc unit. Offsetting part of the after-tax charge of $45.6 million was an insurance recovery valued at $18.3 million, after taxes, related to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Assets under management, a key driver of revenue at money managers, rose to $351.6 billion, up from $336.7 billion in the previous quarter and $252.4 billion a year earlier. Revenue rose 43 percent to $874.6 million from $613.1 million. Franklin is under regulatory investigation for market timing and late trading of its mutual funds. Calpers, the largest U.S. pension fund, has placed the company on its watch for possible termination and Morningstar Inc. has urged investors "proceed with caution" regarding Franklin. -- posted by SteveT » SteveT - 4 funds that deserve the heave-ho http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/inve... When should you bail out on your fund? Here’s a strategy to help you make your decision -- and four funds you should definitely sell if you have them. By Russel Kinnel, Morningstar One thing mutual fund investing has in common with stock investing is that selling is much more difficult than buying. Investors often make the mistake of overreacting and hastily selling on a little bad news. Alternatively, investors can also suffer from a paralysis that prevents them from selling a money-losing investment because of their reluctance to admit they made a mistake -- as well as a desire to recover the dollar amount of their original investment. Nevertheless, making the decision whether to sell an investment is a lot easier if you’ve written down why you bought it in the first place and what role it’s playing in your portfolio. Putting your investment strategy in writing helps you stay committed to a disciplined investment plan and on track for achieving your financial goals. With mutual funds, I’d suggest starting your decision-making process anywhere but year-to-date performance. You might begin by examining the expense ratio to see if it has changed. If it has gone above 1.25% in a stock fund or 0.80% in a bond fund, then you should hold the fund to an extremely high standard. If it isn’t one of the very best funds in its class, throw it back. Next, look at the fund’s portfolio to see if it is still accomplishing what you bought it to do. Say you own a fund for its small-cap exposure, and it’s your only small-cap fund. If it moves most of its assets to mid caps, you should consider selling or adding a true small-cap fund so that you won’t lose that exposure. Finally, go ahead and look at returns. If the fund's relative performance for the trailing three- or five-year period is in the bottom quartile of its category, take a long hard look at why that has happened. If you’re confident the reason is that the fund follows a strategy that is out of favor, then it might be worth holding. For example, Clipper fund (CFIMX) looked sluggish for the trailing three years at the end of 1999 because it's a deep-value player that focuses on absolute returns. In this instance, it was simply out of favor. However, you should be darn sure that market trends, not more serious investment-specific risks, account for such a low ranking. With this in mind, I’ll help you along the way with four funds you ought to get rid of now. These are funds we recently added to our pans list. Gabelli ABC Phoenix-Engemann Balanced Return A ING Emerging Countries A Strong Balanced -- posted by SteveT » Normxxx - 2000 Redux? <img align="Center" width="540" src="http://www.cross-currents.net/img10.gif"> -- posted by Normxxx « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 Next » Please follow the guidelines set forth in the Suite101 Posting Etiquette when adding to the discussion. |
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