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Top 1992. Oct 17, 2001 1:19 PM

» CaptRon - Re: IBM drip

In response to message posted by smile_1:
Maybe Vita Nelson has a 900 #...8-)

-- posted by CaptRon

Top 1993. Oct 17, 2001 4:07 PM

» CaptRon - From Mark Posner

A "Jen" special...8-)
http://www.markpoyser.com/stockmarket.htm

-- posted by CaptRon

Top 1994. Oct 18, 2001 7:19 PM

» smile_1 - Re: Greenspan brings reason back to wallstreet

In response to message posted by smile_1:

someone has the right idea, heard they bought a billion back on the long end today...

keep it up boyz

-- posted by smile_1

Top 1995. Oct 19, 2001 3:23 PM

» Rande - The Latest -- 10/19/01

Three weeks up, one week down. How about a repeat? smile

Even with the recent down week (which was mild at less than 2% for all the indexes -- mild, all things considered), the indexes are still well above their 9/21 lows. Hopefully, we can keep it that way. Meanwhile, there's a weekend to enjoy. For now, here's......

The Latest (as of 10/19 close):

YTD 2001:

DJIA -14.7%
S&P -18.7%
SPY -17.8%
VTSMX (W5000 Index Fund) -17.9%
Nas -32.4%
QQQ -42.5%
R2000 -12.0%
MDY (S&P 400 Midcap) -12.4%
VEURX (European Index Fund) -26.2%

Since 12/31/99:

DJIA -19.9%
S&P -26.9%
SPY -25.2%
VTSMX -26.3%
Nas -58.9%
QQQ -63.3%
R2000 -15.7%
MDY +2.9%
VEURX -31.8%
50/50 Total Stock/Total Bond -2.2%
(includes Total Bond through yesterday)

Since Previous Closing Lows:

DJIA (9/21/01) +11.8%
S&P (9/21/01) +11.2%
SPY (9/21/01) +10.7%
W5000 Fund (9/21/01) +11.6%
Nas (9/21/01) +17.4%
QQQ (9/21/01) +19.0%
R2000 (9/21/01) +12.4%
MDY (9/21/00) +10.6%
VEURX (9/21/01) +13.8%

Since Previous Closing Highs:

DJIA (1/14/00) -21.5%
S&P (3/24/00) -29.7%
SPY (3/24/00) -28.5%
VTSMX (3/24/00) -31.2%
Nas (3/10/00; ) -66.9%
QQQ (3/24/00) -71.5%
R2000 (3/9/00) -29.8%
MDY (9/7/00) -17.7%
VEURX (3/24/00) -34.2%
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Benchmark Closing Lows (lows since previous all-time highs):

DJIA 8235.81 (9/21/01)
S&P 965.80 (9/21/01)
SPY 97.28 (9/21/01)
VTSMX 21.40 (9/21/01)
Nas 1423.19 (9/21/01) (intra -- 1387.06 on 9/21/01)
QQQ 28.19 (9/21/01) (intra -- 27.20 on 9/21/01)
R2000 378.89 (9/21/01)
MDY 74.45 (9/21/01)
VEURX 16.85 (9/21/01)

Market Cycle Peak to Trough:

DJIA (1/14/00 - 9/21/01) -29.8%
S&P (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -36.8%
SPY (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -35.3%
VTSMX (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -38.2
Nas (3/10/00 - 9/21/01) -71.8%
QQQ (3/24/00 - 9/21/01) -76.1%
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Index returns are price change only, ETFs and mutual funds including divs/distributions. Returns not guaranteed as to accuracy -- relying on unaudited third-party sources (may have missed a dividend or two, which would understate returns).

-- posted by Rande

Top 1996. Oct 19, 2001 4:32 PM

» JenL_2 - Re: The Latest -- 10/19/01

In response to message posted by Rande:

To illustrate:

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
VTSMX, VFINX, VEXMX Comparison 5 YR Chart

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
3 YR Chart

<img src="http://chart.neural.com/servlet/GIFChart..." width=500 height=350>
1 YR Chart

<img src="http://pvcharts.quicken.com/bin/icenter...." width=470 height=250>
YTD Chart

…..Jen

-- posted by JenL_2

Top 1997. Oct 24, 2001 12:22 PM

» Rande - Read the other day that margin debt has dropped dramatically sin

Read the other day that margin debt has dropped dramatically since the April lows of this year, down to levels not seen since before the speculative/day-trading run-up of the late 90s. Now this:

3:06 iMoneyNet; Money funds reach record $2.21 trilllion in assets

Let's see....margin debt way, way down and money market cash at historically high, record levels. Not exactly a case of irrational exuberance anymore is it? Irrational pessimism? One thing's for sure, margin calls aren't the worry they were once upon a time. Not only that, all that cash may find the door even more crowded on the way back in than it was on the way out if something lights a fire under this market. Will a bell ring when it's time?

-- posted by Rande

Top 1998. Oct 24, 2001 12:51 PM

» Rande - Re: Margin Debt

In response to message posted by Rande:

Here's the stats on margin debt (from LA Times, October 20, 2001):

Margin debt fell 10% to $144.7 billion from the end of August to the end of September, compared with monthly declines of less than 3% in the previous three months.

"The big [market] sell-off in September has washed out margin debt," said Donald Coxe, chief strategist at Harris Investment Management.

[The September sell-off] left margin debt equaling 1.1% of the market value of all U.S. public firms, about the same level in percentage terms as in the 1991 recession, said Charles Biderman, chief executive of Santa Rosa, Calif.-based investment research firm TrimTabs.com.

-- posted by Rande

Top 1999. Oct 24, 2001 1:09 PM

» smile_1 - stimulus package

don't know what all is in the 100B package, but the approach still seems to not hit the target.

they should be doing this:

administration policies and statements consistent with sound fiscal policy promoting lower long term rates (retire 5, 10 & 30 year debt, no deficit spending etc).

If long term rates on 30 year mortgages fell below 6% you would see a wave of mortgage refis, which would work its way through the economy, and create real demand.

Corporations will spend on cap-ex when there is legitimate demand. Artificial supply created by tax incentives to encourage cap ex spending by corporations, is not beneficial in the long run, if true demand does not exist.

...instead Congress seems to be heading down the trickle down path... too bad

guess we should count our blessing...it could be worse if they went with the Democrat solution of spending rather than tax breaks to Corporations...

amazing.

-- posted by smile_1

Top 2000. Oct 27, 2001 3:12 PM

» Kirk - Please subscribe to the new thread

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