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Energy, Energy Service, Natural Gas & Oil Sectors
This archived discussion is "read only". « Previous 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 Next » » lcha - Re: Re: Beware - Energy Stock Scams In response to message posted by Rande:Sorry Rande but the VCs haven't even STARTED talking to the energy companies yet, much less cashed out. This is NOTHING like the B2B scam. All the E&P companies I follow have a usable product and are making a PROFIT. As for the talking heads, they do their best to squeeze in 3 minutes of energy news within their 23 hours 57 minutes of tech rambling. From what I see, B2B STILL gets more time than energy. -- posted by lcha » lcha - If you missed 'em before... Taking the Contrarian View on EnergyBy Christopher Edmonds Special to TheStreet.com 6/21/01 9:55 AM ET WASHINGTON -- Be careful. The energy tape may shock As crude oil, gasoline and natural Jim Cramer best summed it up In a matter of just weeks, energy has gone from managers' Pickering thinks new money may avoid the sector, at least in Politics and Prices: The Worries Continue Among the stocks hardest hit in the recent selloff are the With both oil and natural gas storage levels increasing at an The recent action is a clear pattern. As Doug Kass pointed Fundamentals to the Rescue? Can a return to a fundamental focus help pull energy stocks Second-quarter earnings. Unlike the first quarter, Storage and inventory data. Both crude and natural Rig utilization. Drilling rigs in use continue to push Corporate combinations. This is a real wild card, but Moderation in political rhetoric. This is both a wild Economic wild card. The other wild card is the Middle East wild card. I don't think you have real Cramer is right: This kind of pain is no fun for anyone. It Pickering says if you can stand the pain, now might be the He may be contrarian, but like Kass' suggestion that energy Why should this time be any different?
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-- posted by Rande » lcha - Re: Re: If you missed 'em before... In response to message posted by Rande:There is nothing wrong with sector betting if 1) You really understand the sector you are betting on. 2) You keep your total sector investment to no more than 10-15% of your portfolio. Most people should not be making sector bets on energy. I still believe the long term environment(next 5 years) for energy stocks is favorable and view these pullbacks as a gift. -- posted by lcha » Rande - Saw that Enron's CEO got a pie in the face yesterday as he was Saw that Enron's CEO got a pie in the face yesterday as he was set to speak at the Commonwealth Club. The only question is, was it an angry protestor....or an angry shareholder?Texas power firm's shares falling Power baron Enron finds fortunes fading
There's trouble in Texas. Enron Corp., the Houston power firm that's profited mightily during California's energy crisis, is suffering a surprising lack of popularity on Wall Street. While all eyes have been on Enron's enormous profits here and its enormous pull in Washington, D.C., the reputed titan of the newly incarnated, free-wheeling power industry has lost half its market capitalization -- more than $30 billion -- since its peak in August. Forgive Californians for savoring a bit of schadenfreude over the Houston boys' reversal of fortunes. But what gives? Isn't this the company that was fattening up on the backs of the state's beleaguered utilities, residents and state budget? Isn't this the company with such close ties to the Bush administration that Kenneth Lay, Enron's chairman, was reported to have interviewed a candidate for a job on the commission that regulates his company? Yup. That Enron. On Monday, Enron shares hit a 52-week low of $43.07, after the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission decided to apply the same price controls to power marketers such as Enron that had applied to power-generating companies for months. That's a far cry from August, when the company's shares peaked at $90. "There's a whole kaleidoscope of issues that Enron is being challenged with in the marketplace right now, none of which on the surface is a major deal," said Donato J. Eassey, an analyst with Merrill Lynch Global Securities in Houston. "But when you combine them all . . . I think what's happening here is you have a crescendo with this FERC announcement. You have people saying, 'OK, the growth rate is now in question.' " That growth rate was an eye-popping 88.82 percent in revenues for the United States on a two-year average, and nearly 98 percent in the rest of the world. Enron officials did not respond to a request for interviews, but as the stock continued to drop Tuesday morning, chief executive Jeff Skilling issued a statement to the markets in which he reiterated "strong confidence" in its earnings guidance. The stock rebounded slightly throughout the week, closing at $44.05 yesterday. In a speech at the Commonwealth Club last night, Skilling blamed regulatory interference with the "free market" for investor flight from his company. "Our stock prices have gotten hammered," he said. "They're half what they were a year ago." Tumbling stock prices weren't the only bad news for Skilling last night. A protester pelted the executive with a berry pie just before he began speaking. As Skilling used paper towels to wipe the pie from his face, a woman was arrested on battery and malicious mischief charges. Enron isn't the only company with stock prices that soared in tandem with California's power crisis and are now suddenly headed south. Shares of Reliant Energy Inc., AES Inc. and Williams Companies Inc., which generate and sell electricity in California, and El Paso Energy Corp., which sells natural gas here, are all trading near 52-week lows. The main culprit appears to be the suddenly serious talk in Washington about power price controls, re-regulation and now, the possibility of big refunds being ordered for California. Even Calpine Corp. of San Jose, which has developed a reputation as an industry good guy because it has not played the spot market and has not been accused of manipulative tactics, dropped nearly 7 percent yesterday, to $37.10. But none of the companies has been hit as hard as Enron. Such a drastic drop in market capitalization poses serious problems for any company. It leaves it less money to invest in its own growth, and because executive compensation is so closely tied to stock price, a sharp decline makes it more difficult to retain talented leaders. While Enron's power wholesaling division seems to be doing fine, the firm has been buffeted by disappointments in other lines of business and other regions in recent months. In the financial press, the continuing knock on Enron is that its business lines are so new and complex, and the company is so secretive about its operations, that analysts and fund managers don't feel confident in their understanding of what it does. A look at the firm's recent troubles exemplifies its diversity. For instance, Enron has engaged in repeated battles with the state government of Maharashtra in India over a 2,184-megawatt power plant there. The Dahbol Power Co., which is 65 percent controlled by Enron, stopped construction on a second phase of the project on Sunday, claiming it is owed $48 million by the Maharashtra State Electricity Board. The state has accused Enron of charging too much and not generating enough, and stopped buying power from the plant last month. Closer to home, Enron has struggled with its investments in fiber-optic bandwidth. The company buys and sells unused, high-speed bandwidth space, treating it like a commodity as it does electricity, coal or natural gas. But the fiber-optic sector has imploded in recent weeks as it has become clear that for all the long-distance cable laid in the ground, there have not been enough "last mile" connections set up for users to actually take advantage of it. Earlier this year, Enron scuttled plans for a joint venture with Blockbuster to offer what it called "video on demand," in which customers at home would be able to select a video of their choice for a fee and have it transmitted via fiber-optic cables. Then there was the FERC ruling. For months, the agency had resisted aggressive price controls in the West, preferring to let the market run its course. But as control of the U.S. Senate was handed to Democrats this month and President Bush appointed a tough Texan regulator named Patrick Wood III to the commission, the agency changed its tune. It expanded price controls to all hours of the day, spread the controls throughout the Western region and brought previously excluded power marketers under the tent. So under current calculations, that means Enron could sell power for no more than $108 per megawatt in a shortage and about $90 during normal hours -- far short of the hundreds of dollars that companies were regularly charging during the past year. In part, the company's gyrating stock price reflects the volatile nature of the businesses Enron has decided to pursue. And the hard-charging company has a reputation for going aggressively into entirely new markets. But sometimes that approach gets it in trouble, as was the case last year, when Enron had to take a $400 million charge for its failed investment in Azurix, a global water company that set out to make a commodity out of water supply the same way it had done for electricity service, as governments privatized their water systems. The opportunities never materialized. Add it all together and Enron has a tough time supporting a price-earnings ratio of nearly 39, considerably above the liberal standard of health, which is 25. The company had less than $1 billion in profits on more than $100 billion in revenues last year. Still, a survey by Thomson Financial/First Call found that analysts expect Enron to deliver earnings of 42 cents per share in the second quarter (up from 34 cents last year), and $1.79 per share on the year. Most maintain a strong "buy" rating on the stock. But investors with big positions in Enron have taken a hit. Hardest-put of them will be the Janus funds, which, as Enron's largest mutual fund investor, held nearly $3.33 billion of its stock as of the end of April. In a semiannual report to investors, John Schreiber, a portfolio manager, said the stock price of the "new-age energy merchant" was a victim of negative psychology resulting from the California energy crisis. Janus declined to make fund managers available for interviews. "There are tremendous rewards for being first into new markets," said Raymond Niles, an energy analyst with Salomon Smith Barney in New York. "When you're an aggressive first-mover, from time to time you're going to make mistakes. But I don't think any of the mistakes Enron has made hit the core of the company." -- posted by Rande » JenL_2 - Re: If you missed 'em before... In response to message posted by lcha:Thanks for the article Icha and for your opinions on the sector for the longterm. Let's take a look at some of the stocks mentioned in the article... <img src="http://pvcharts.quicken.com/bin/icenter...." width=470 height=250> .....Jen -- posted by JenL_2 » lcha - Beaten Down Energy Power PlaysBeaten-down energy stocks look attractive By Cheryl Strauss Einhorn
While regulators' decision to "mitigate" prices is popular with consumers, it does nothing to fix the underlying energy problem. For the companies being vilified are exactly those that need the most investment to expand energy supplies. Their shares' selloff may make them ripe for picking. With their services a necessity, these companies should find politicians willing to come up with tax breaks and other incentives to offset the price caps and boost the supply of electricity. Donato Eassey, a Merrill Lynch analyst who follows electric, natural-gas and other energy companies, thinks the stocks are "now well oversold." For "while there still remains a long road ahead to navigate through the California chaos, we believe the crushing political pressures, which have helped decimate over $45 billion in energy merchant market cap since the beginning of the year [for an average decline of 27%], may be in an ebbing mode." Which companies look best? Perhaps Sempra Energy, which signed a preliminary agreement last week with the State of California to settle its $750 million in undercollected power costs. The settlement should not have any earnings impact, in part because the company is well reserved. This company is one of the very few energy trading and marketing shops that hasn't suffered a big stock setback in the past month. Eassey describes it as "holding in there like a rock." Sempra's share price is unchanged during the past month and is actually up 18% this year. Eassey says the stock has held up well, in part because it has been undervalued as investors have failed to recognize that the company does much more than generate energy: "It has a sizable trading and marketing arm." Now, though, he thinks it will benefit from being the largest combination U.S. gas and electric utility; its assets, he says, mean the company "has a lot of shock-absorbing capacity."
http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB99... The fact is price caps, reductions in price, loss of favor, etc... do not add ANY NG or power to our supply. This economic slowdown is also slowing down energy consumption. When the economy picks up, so will demand. We better be ready. -- posted by lcha » Rande - Best "Energy Play" As of 3/31/01, the Total Stock Market Index (Wilshire 5000) had a sector weightig of 6.3% energy and 9.4% utilities. Is nearly 16% enough? You can try to outstmart the market by getting into or out of various sectors with overweighted or underweighted positions at just the right time, hoping for the rest of your life that you'll be right more often than wrong. Or, you can let the market decide for you.-- posted by Rande » lcha - Re: Best "Energy Play" In response to message posted by Rande:"The market" is only smart when you take a contrarian view and do the opposite. This philosophy says the market is made up of boneheads so the best coarse is do what they are not doing. In March of 2000 "the market" was telling us that tech was going to be the center of the universe for the next 10 years and the economy was going to grow like gangbusters for years. Yea, real astute forecasting. As far as sector investing I will only speak of my personal experience. I have 10% of my assets I am committing to the STOCK portion of my portfolio in the energy sector. If prices are right I may increase that to 15% but no higher. I am "betting" on a sector in which I have made a good living for 18 years. I am investing mainly in the type of companies (E&P) that are my clients and that I talk to on a regular basis. I am investing in a sector that has been, I believe, undercapitalized for at least 15 years. A period which saw a consistent increase in its product demand. I believe I am investing in a sector that requires a large capital investment over a LONG period of time so my focus is longer term (5 years plus) and not for a quick buck. Lastly, I am investing in a sector that is, at best fairly valued, and in some areas (small-mid cap E&P) largely undervalued by most common valuation metrics. If you understand little to nothing about what you are investing in, then a total shotgun approach (complete diversification) to investing is best. If you make an investment in an area that you feel you understand and that this knowledge might give you a little advantage over others who are not as knowledgeable then I believe the risk is justifiable. -- posted by lcha » Rande - Re: Re: Best "Energy Play" In response to message posted by lcha:Icha, The market is made up of boneheads? It's possible to be smarter than the market? All those well-backed, MBA finance types don't seem to be able to beat it on a consistent basis, even with the multi-billion dollar resources at their disposal. What makes Joe Investor so smart? You would have thought that all the people who piled into tech in the late 90s would have learned their lesson about performance chasing and sector betting. But it seems it's a never-ending matter of piling into the next "hot" sector for some. If the lesson just learned wasn't sufficient, what would be? But, don't take my word for it...
"With all the analysts and all the research and all the statistics and all the computers, it is still possible to be 51 percent wrong, and you can do better than that by flipping a coin." [Adam Smith, "The Money Game"] Potential .400 hitters in the stock market are falling short of their goal because growing numbers of today's investors are sufficiently educated, sophisticated, and informed to block their way, just as batters capable of achieving a .400 average have fallen short of that goal since the old days because defending teams have developed sufficient skill to block their way. No successor to Peter Lynch has appeared on the scene, and even Warren' Buffett's touch is not as magic as it used to be. [Peter Bernstein in Where, Oh Where Are the .400 Hitters of Yesteryear? in the Financial Analysts Journal (November/December 1998)] For professional investors like myself, a sense of humor is essential . . . We are very aware that we are competing not only against the market averages but also against one another. It's an intense rivalry. We are each claiming, "The stocks in my fund today will perform better than what you own in your fund." That implies we think we can predict the future, which is the occupation of charlatans. If you believe you or anyone else has a system that can predict the future of the stock market, the joke is on you. [Ralph Wanger in "A Zebra in Lion Country"] Speculation: The activity of forecasting the psychology of the market. Speculative motive: The object of securing profit from knowing better than the market what the future will bring forth. [John Maynard Keynes, "The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money"] The market is never wrong and it cannot be defeated. It is selfless. It does not experience feelings of victory or defeat. The market is a cold battlefield and its participants are engaged in a life-or-death battle against themselves. -- posted by Rande « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 Next » Please follow the guidelines set forth in the Suite101 Posting Etiquette when adding to the discussion. |
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