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Top 59.   Feb 28, 2005 9:25 PM

» pete2214 - Re: Re: Re: Brinker, Off and On

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In response to “ Brinker Re: Brinker, Off and On” posted by pete2214:

Does this mean that the market has been going up, but at some point will go down? LOL!

Yes, also it is Bob's same old stuff.

By that I mean to say that Bob always says a market turn is likely within the time period of a one year subscription to his MARKETIMER newsletter.

-- posted by pete2214



Top 60.   Mar 1, 2005 7:07 AM

» JIMMY62 - Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Re: Re: Brinker, Off and On posted by arommel88:

I am not sure what that means?

That is understandable.

This thread ia all about Bob.

What I am driving at is Bob's MO of saying something that is common sence obvious and pretending that it is prfound.

Example: During the last quarter of a year Bob is likely to say, and has said, there will be no recession this year. Since by definition a recession is two or more consecutive quarters of negetive GDP growth, Bob is always right. Yet the statement has no value to the listener.

Similarly Bob's comments about a secular bear, which have become more certain through time, also have no value to today's listener. When it really did matter Bob was saying there might be a bear nearby, but buy QQQ anyway.

In short, when the market might reach the level of early 2000 have no bearing on investment decisions being made in 2005.

-- posted by JIMMY62



Top 61.   Mar 1, 2005 7:50 AM

» arommel88 - Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Brinker Babble posted by JIMMY62:

You can make a case that BB is a flawed personality. However you must consider the context. Many of his listeners do not have much investement knowledge and much of it will be trivial. Whenever I pass by the Kim Comando show I am in agony. He has made the case that the SP 500 will not reach its high and as such it is a statement about the potential high as of today.


In my opinion BB has a good understanding of macro economic data and has probably established correlations with them. However, a valid correlation coefficient can also be a weak predictor if it is not strong. Consider where on the scatter plot the next dot will hit when r=.3

http://noppa5.pc.helsinki.fi/koe/corr/co...

Do not bet it all on a .3 coefficient. Now when you get it wrong people, will not be understanding as this is an unforgiving world. This led to BB's moral dilemma on QQQQ. This is also relavent to some of the other topics on BB. Does the skill of looking at "counter trends" correlate with macro economic data? I do not think so. BB was out of his element. He is not skilled in every field and he has character flaws. It is a lot like politics. We set our standards in such a way that only liars can get into office.

When you have high employment, high factory utilization, rising interest rates you can guess that something is more likely to go wrong and you may risk adjust on macro economic data in my opinion. For me it might mean going from 80/20 stocks/fixed to 70/30. However no scheme will account for the arrival of cheap solar technology or a 9/11. What I do is adjust allocations to the relative risk/reward. If the US is at 10% unemployment I will make a guess that it is an anomoly with higher upside etc.

-- posted by arommel88



Top 62.   Mar 1, 2005 8:47 AM

» BrianMcG - Re: Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Brinker Babble posted by arommel88:

You wrote: "[A] valid correlation coefficient can also be a weak predictor if it is not strong. Consider where on the scatter plot the next dot will hit when r=.3."

Do you publish a glossary for proper understanding of your posts? Is there a translation service? Or are you content just to dazzle the financial hoi poloi with your verbal grandiloquence?

I suppose this fancy talk relates to the radio personality we know as Bob Brinker, but I'm not sure how.

-- posted by BrianMcG



Top 63.   Mar 1, 2005 10:03 AM

» arommel88 - Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Re: Brinker Babble posted by BrianMcG:

What an impressive post. When you see something you don't understand to you squish it? Do you riddle it with holes? Did you toss the nerdy looking guy in the mud puddle in your day. Or are you content to insult people anonymously?


I like interesting conversation with someone that understands something about statitics. I offered an explaination that supports Kirks investment style and identified it as regression. Look it up, do your own research instead of expect it spoon fed to you or feel free to ignore it. I was speaking with Normxxx who I do not always agree with but is certainly someone that provokes thought and is polite.


What are you? Someone brave enough to cast insults on the internet? What a lovely display of unprovoked contempt. Since there is no evidence of my provocation, the only thing that is evident is your hatefulness.

-- posted by arommel88



Top 64.   Mar 1, 2005 10:17 AM

» arommel88 - Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble posted by Kirk:

Quite honestly it was an insulting post. However people's hatred and agression toward BB appears to work people into a frenzy. Its fun to laugh and throw scorn? Its not pretty that is for certain. Sorry to see the LOL from you.

-- posted by arommel88



Top 65.   Mar 1, 2005 10:43 AM

» BrianMcG - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble posted by arommel88:

"Hatefulness"? "Insulting"? "Unprovoked contempt?"

Relax. I think you're funny.

-- posted by BrianMcG



Top 66.   Mar 1, 2005 11:28 AM

» arommel88 - Re: Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Brinker Babble posted by Kirk:

As it was posted it did appear to honor me with a crown of thorns. It looks like an overreaction on my part. I realize that one needs a thick skin on the net. I have controversial opinions so you must know I expect it. I just like to remind people to be polite and not just to me.

My axiomatic phrase is certainly worth a laugh.

weak predictor if it is not strong

It does not hurt to put in a if you want to ride someone a little:-)

-- posted by arommel88



Top 67.   Mar 1, 2005 11:37 AM

» SPYDR22000 - Brink's current bond recommendation......

What is Brink's current bond recommendation.
Please provide specifics. Is he in love with
gnma again? High yield coporate? Short term
corporate?

-- posted by SPYDR22000



Top 68.   Mar 1, 2005 11:37 AM

» arommel88 - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brinker Babble posted by BrianMcG:

OK. I apologize for my overreaction. I confused you for the "muscle head" type that knocks over the chess board when he loses a piece. I can sometimes be a little predatory myself when I think I ran into one.


Add this to the Mister Potato Head of my life's work in sculpture.

-- posted by arommel88



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