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Top 433.   Jul 25, 2005 3:46 PM

» iamacamera - Re: Re:Old Age Insurance

In response to Re:Old Age Insurance posted by Kirk:

Kirk,
Avoiding paying for your own care is big business. You need a spouse, then get a big house and a fancy car. One big dodge is annuities, often single premium immediate anuities. It depends on what state you live in (and I don't know if CA allows it.) but the "community spouse" ie the one not in the nursing home converts most of the couples cash to an annuity in her name alone. This is income to her alone as far as medicaid is concerned. Some states have even allowed X payments followed by a lump sum, so if they know the spouse is so sick he's going to die within say 5 years they can keep most of their capital. It is a very complex law and I'm glad that many states are tightening up.

-- posted by iamacamera



Top 434.   Jul 25, 2005 5:01 PM

» bbaddict - Re: Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass

In response to Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass posted by iamacamera:


Thanks for sharing, camera. There is a good calculator at www.PureJazz.com which runs the numbers for you at critical mass. It assumes you die broke at 100. But you can figure how much you need, and what you can draw out each month, given the returns you plug in.

BTW, I have only taken Bob's advice one time... on the Q's! Each other time, I missed the call, then waited for a modest correction to jump in, and it never came! I just started subscribing again, so I missed the latest calls. He has hinted he expects the S&P to get to 1250, 1300, 1350. I have been amazed at his picking the bottoms and tops.

Where the market is now, I think I'll probably just pay off my house. Since I can no longer write off the mortgage, it is like earning 7.62% before taxes (based on mortgage write-off calculator at http://www.PureJazz.com/Mortgage.asp )

-- posted by bbaddict



Top 435.   Jul 25, 2005 5:20 PM

» bob90245 - Re: Withdrawal Strategies During Retirement

In response to Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass posted by iamacamera:

By my calculations, your withdrawal rate is 6%. That's aggressive. For a 30 year lifespan, 4% would be conservative. 5% would be at the upper "safe" limit. I consider researching Withdrawal Strategies During Retirement a hobby of mine. Here is my latest research:

Withdrawal Srategies: Articles and more

-- posted by bob90245



Top 436.   Jul 25, 2005 5:41 PM

» bbaddict - Re: Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass

In response to Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass posted by iamacamera:


Flanagan certainly didn't explain the situation to him very well.

I heard Flanagan give several wrong answers on Saturday's show. I still haven't listened to Sunday's. Not to mention the fact that he is booooring. I actually liked Terry Savage. Yeah the plugs for the book were a little over the top, but no big deal. I even didn't mind the dating service, but I would have loved to hear the discussion she and Bob had about it.

I really wanted to hear Bob's take on the Chinese Yuan revaluation. I hope he puts it in his next monologue.

-- posted by bbaddict



Top 437.   Jul 25, 2005 7:55 PM

» Kirk - Re: Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass

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In response to Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass posted by iamacamera:

I looked at a conservative rate of return and treated it as a mortgage (or really a sinking fund)with our lives as the term. E.g. at 60, if you believe you'll live to 95, enter 420 as the number of payments and your capital say 1.5 million as the PV, if you think 6% is reasonable return enter 0.5%/month as the interest rate. This will give you a payment of $8552 per month and you die broke.

Be careful with this unless you think dog food is a gourmet item to serve for supper. smile

From "Table 3. Inflation-Adjusted Portfolio Succes Rates: 1926 to 1995 (Percentage of all past payout periods supported by the portfolio after adjusting withdrawals for inflation)" from the article "Retirement Savings: Choosing a Withdrawal Rate That Is Sustainable" you will see that a 50:50 equities:bonds portfolio with 6% annual takeout and 30 year life has a 49% probability of FAILURE using Monte Carlo analysis.

See our Critical Mass - Care and Feeding For forum for many articles posted about his. Sorry, but the AAII website has changed so I don't have a link to the article. (I read from my copy I emailed myself.) There are several articles out there but my conclusion from reading most is 4% is OK for 30 yrs and 3.5% should work for 35 years to 50 years.

What I've not seen discussed is the "Monte Hall - Always switch boxes when he shows one with a goat Question" and how it relates to this analysis. I believe the nice thing about being conservative is you can take profits after a big up year, lower your equity allocation by 1% (switch boxes) and effectively give yourself a raise. You could probably bank several good years like this then when the market eventually corrects, convert back to 50:50 on a rebalance and get even more appreciation... but that is very complicated.... so best discussed on our Critical Mass - Care and Feeding For forum.


Note: # Phillip L. Cooley, Carl M. Hubbard and Daniel T. Walz, "Retirement Savings: Choosing a Withdrawal Rate that Is Sustainable," AAII Journal, February 1998, pp. 16–21.



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Top 438.   Jul 25, 2005 9:49 PM

» Rob_Larsen - Re: Terry Savage, fill-in

I thought Terry Savage was much better than Bob. I enjoyed listening to her...a breath of fresh air.

Rob

In response to Terry Savage, fill-in posted by Jeremy77:

-- posted by Rob_Larsen



Top 439.   Jul 25, 2005 10:20 PM

» Rob_Larsen - Re: Critical Mass

In response to Critical Mass posted by bbaddict:

bbaddict,
I retired when I was 38 years old. I lived in the same paid off house in Northern California for 17 years. I had no car payments, etc. I traveled quite a bit, had lunches with friends everyday, volunteered once a week for a non-profit, then about a year into retirement, I became a little bored....I enjoy retirement but it can get a little boring when my friends are my age (now 45 years old) and they have to work.

I wanted to start life over again and make life an adventure! After retiring, I had no reason to stay in the same place as my job was the only thing keeping me there, so I moved to the Southern California suburbs and paid cash for house down here.

I always regretted not getting a degree (came from a poor family, etc.) and wanted to complete that dream. I had always been in the public service sector and wanted to continue in public service but on the other end of the spectrum. I decided I was going to go back to school for four years, which I did. I went to the community college then on to the university where I earned my B.A. degree and a California teaching credential. I was fortunate enough to find a 1/2 time public school teaching position that only requires me to work Mon/Tue and Wed morning. I love my job and going back to school to become a beloved teacher was one of the best things I ever did. I enjoy making a difference, and having five days a week off along with summers and holidays is just icing on the cake. I also get to double dip with another pension in the future because I pay into the State Teacher Retirement System.

I have a few beefs with Bob (like the QQQ mailing I received ..I am still waiting to break even), but I have to credit him and my grandfather (lived through the '29 crash and depression) with giving me the information and tools to help me reach critical mass at age 38.

If you have a retirement dream, my advice is to chase it!

Rob

-- posted by Rob_Larsen



Top 440.   Jul 25, 2005 11:15 PM

» permabear - Re: Re: Re:Old Age Insurance

In response to Re: Re:Old Age Insurance posted by iamacamera:

"Avoiding paying for your own care is big business."

I can't defend the multi-millionaire who protects every last cent of their assets to avoid paying their fair share. But when it comes to the average Joe, the other side of the coin is that when couples do not do any financial planning and use the system, one spouse can be sent to the poor house as all the assets are utilized to pay for the longterm care needs of the other spouse. I'm not as critical of using the system to ones benefit because I feel that the system should be providing longterm care for all U.S. citizens. The inequities we see in this country are not seen around the world where they have universal health care coverage. This is the solution, not forcing people into poverty to pay for their healthcare needs in their declining years. And no, even with all this said, I still wouldn't advocate a longterm care insurance plan because I do feel they are ripoffs and often don't cover near what they say they do when the time comes to pay up.

-- posted by permabear



Top 441.   Jul 26, 2005 8:51 AM

» bob90245 - Re: Trinity Study

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass posted by Kirk:

Sorry, but the AAII website has changed so I don't have a link to the article.

No problem, Kirk. That was one of the articles here:

Withdrawal Srategies: Articles and more

I was lucky enough to find an archived version. So I stored it on my website:

Retirement Savings: Choosing a Withdrawal Rate That Is Sustainable

-- posted by bob90245



Top 442.   Jul 26, 2005 9:09 AM

» iamacamera - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Critical Mass posted by Kirk:

Kirk,
I don't doubt a word of your analysis. My approach was a theoretical one designed to stop me worrying. I never needed to take 6% even in the lean years.
In real life I had the good luck to retire in the middle of a great bull market and for 5 years far exceeded my theoretical 6% earnings. Thanks to Brinker I missed most of the 2000-2003 bear. Essentially I plateaued for 3 years (b/c I lost a great deal of my earnings for these 3 years on the Qs, and I spent some.)but since then I've profited from the bull, again thanks to BB.
I don't calculate my return year by year. Instead I calculate my net worth at the end of the year. I am over $1M up since I retired so absent a global calamity I won't be eating dog food.
There are 2 reasons for this:
1. Luck - If you have 3 down years in the market immediately after retiring you could have a real problem down the road, but I had the opposite.
2. Having a correct round trip exit and entry point from BB. I don't believe he can do this forever but whether it was luck (again) or skill The effect of missing a terrible bear is enormous.

I agree with your advice about rebalancing and I do it every year, so if BB misses the bottom I am no worse off than a 50-50 buy and holder, except that I evaded the bear.
I'm probably not explaining this very well but the nearest analogy is the golfer who is in the clubhouse with 6 under par. Nobody can take that away from him. True he may not do as well in the next round but he has the 6 under par in his pocket.

-- posted by iamacamera



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