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» teresamc - Re: Re: fatty acids
I am a 45 year old female who has breast feed 4 infants at one time-the last being 14 years ago. I am considering adopting a baby and would like to know if (and how) it may be possible to breastfeed again?a href="/discussion.cfm/gay_parenting_families/92075/827992">message posted by Reg37:
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» rjcnursing - Re: Re: fatty acids
Please contact me at: r_for_r@hotmail.com-- posted by rjcnursing
» DonJ20 - Re: fatty acids
You may be interested to know that it is a lot easier for men to lactate then people would imagine. There are sacrifices though.I am a male, age 60, married, three children and two grandchildren. About 2 yrs ago, quite by accident, I started to lactate. Please understand that I am transgendered and was on estrogen and progesterone for almost a year. Then I stopped suddenly and as happens when an expecting mother has her baby the estrogen and progesterone levels dropped suddenly tell my body that I had delivered and it was time to begin lactating. Bear in mind that I have always had sensitive nipples and enjoy them being massaged and I had been pumping with an electric dual, automatic pump.
I was able to keep the milk flowing for a year. However, it was not enough to fully fed an infant, only a little snack. During this time I breastfed my two grandchildren when I was babysitting them. After a year, I decided to stop and so I stop my pumping and eventually had to take a medicine called Dostinex. The milk stopped after about a week. Over the next month I felt a great since of loss, I suppose it was similar to a woman having a breast removed. I had lost something very feminine about my self. So with manipulation and pumping, I started it back and continued it for another 4-5 months. After almost a year, I decided to try again only this time I would prepare my breast better. I should point out that since I am a little over weight, that my natural breast before the hormones were a little fleshy, after the hormones they increased slightly, not enough to notice under a shirt that was not form fitting.
So this time I started on July 1st with the hormones. I plan to continue with them at increasing higher levels for six months. Around the first of Jan 2004, I will stop everything and try to start the milk back. I have already developed more breast tissue, that I assume are the alveoli, ducts, and sinus, as I can feel them under and around my nipple. There is also some other tissue that I assume is fatty tissue that has developed as I went through my "second puberty" (as a woman).
As for what and how much of the hormones, if your interested, I will be more specific. There are several involved.
Regards,
Don
If you wish to contact me email me at:
donnaj2468@aol.com
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» DonJ20 - Men Lactating and breastfeeding
As an addendum to the earlier message. I decided to begin the lactation sooner than I had planned. I had planned to go a full six months but my breast have developed faster than expected and the right one shows a definite protrusion at the nipple as well as the nipple is larger and darker (I understood this was not possible for a man, as he did not have the hormones to produce the enlarged areola and darker aerola) apparently men do have this hormone or the effect is produced by another hormone. In addition, I have been able to feel the milk sinuses, ducts and developing alveoli over the last several months, more in the right than in the left breast. The right breast on the other two occasions I began lactating produced twice as much milk as the left.To recap, I began on July 1st and will begin lactating around the middle or late part of November, four months. I will discontinue all estrogen and Progesterone on Nov 1st and begin pumping, massage, expression, etc. Both hormones were initially received by IM injection. The Progesterone injections were stopped sometime ago as they have a very long duration of action with amidpeakk point of 30 days and can take up to three months to drop to appropriate levels. The estrogen was stopped later but giving it time to also drop. In the meantime I have been taking oral hormones andtransdermall patches to keep up the hormone levels and to increase them to raise the blood levels of the hormones, as would happen to a pregnant female.
The anti-androgens will be continued to suppress the TestosteroneDomperidonenene was started a month ago and has been increased to 2 tabs four times a day and will be continued to help thprolactinin produce milk. I also havOxytocinin spray to help initially with let down. All of this is scheduled to start the 40 hours of "delivery to milk period" on the 5th of November. At that time I will start ten to twelve 30 minute sessions on the pump per day, with massage and expression to help it begin. I expect it to take more than 40 hours; however, I am seeing already what appears aColostrumum, this is not suppose to happen in induced lactation either. I do not know for sure if it is trucolostrumum, it only comes from the right breast when I pump. It appears as a yellowish to clear thick fluid and does not taste at likbreastmilklk, it is somewhat tangy or bitter. Then if all happens, as I am sure it will, be producing milk by the end of November I expect to be producing more milk than before, how much? We will see.
Why? Would I want to do this? Because I see the future as a move toward more father involved parenting. There is no reason that right now any father without hormones or pumping coubreastfeedeed using a Supplemental Nursing System (SMedelaela) Lactaidaid system. They could use milk pumped by the mother to feed the baby while mom was at work or where ever. This would create a real bonding with the father, relieve mom of some responsibility (this will probably be resented by many women), help avoid nipple confusion and still give the valuable breast milk to the baby.
More to follow. Contact me at Donnaj2468@aol.com if your interested.
DonJ20
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» DonJ20 - lactation began
To follow up on my two above messages with the latest info. On Nov 2, I stopped all female hormones, but continued the anti-androgens to suppress Testosterone.I have been pump frequently as much as 8-10hrss in 24, plus massage. Today on Nov. 6th at 2:00pm I got the first drops of white milk out of myrtt. breast by expressing it after a warm bath and massage. Since then I continued to express about every 30minss, each time more milk, and more ducts opened. It is now almost an hour since it began and each time I try a little more comes out. More updates later.Donjnj donnaj2468@aol.com
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» DonJ20 - Re: lactation began
Since the 6th of Nov. 2003, the milk has increased and let down is occuring when I use the breast pump (on the rt. breast only) I still express from the left one and pump also. I also express the last little bit out of the rt. breast to increase the production of milk. The amount of milk in a 24 hr period is about 20cc of milk or a little over 1/2 oz. so it is not enough to totally maintain an infant without supplemental nursing of some kind. The milk has a slightly brownish or beige tint to it and does not taste as sweet as it did before. I believe that is because that it is colostrum and will later change to the more typical bluish tint.-- posted by DonJ20
» roadrunner_0822 - Re: lactation began
I would like more detail on how I can express milk from my chest so when i adopt a new born well me and my befriend that I can him thanks.-- posted by roadrunner_0822
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