The Last Remains

Top 2. Jan 14, 2002 9:44 AM

» jerrib - I didn't know that, Roxanne

What a tragedy more emphasis has not been put on educating folks on the atrocities of the Russian side of this war, before and during.

I enjoyed the way you told this and especially the ending. I really don't think visiting to see Hitler's teeth would ever be on my agenda.

And Kruschev involved in helping folks starve?

What a cruel world we live in. Now we have Osama bin Laden. Does it never end?

-- posted by jerrib

Top 3. Jan 15, 2002 6:28 AM

» Red - Re: I didn't know that, Roxanne

In response to message posted by jerrib:

Roxanne,

You article is very informative and well written. Thanks for bringing the fact that Russia committed many atrocities to the forefront. I have friends who were involved in the occupation and know that Hitler and Stalin were both guilty of crimes against humanity. As Jerri states now we have bin Laden. There has been evil-doers since time began.

Congratulations on having this article "In the Spotlight" at the Travel Center. It is well written, informative and interesting.

-- posted by Red

Top 4. Feb 1, 2002 4:13 PM

» RoxanneN - Yes, monsters all

It is a shame that Stalin often gets "slighted" when monsters are discussed. Stalin killed more people than Hitler, was responsible for more terror, torture and genocide than Hitler, but much of this has been buried. The emphasis has been on the holocaust of the European Jews, and while this horror should not be forgotten, it seems it has taken the forefront and all other episodes of genocide have been shoved under the carpet. I have personally been accused of being a "Holocause denier" simply for mentioning that other acts of genocide took place before and after that one. And for being so bold as to state that Stalin starved between 6 and 11 million Ukranians to death in 1931--in a single year he killed as many people as Hitler. And that's just the Ukrainians.

Thanks for reading the article!

-- posted by RoxanneN

Top 5. Aug 14, 2002 11:56 AM

» Anastasiya03 - Re: The Last Remains

I am sorry -- I apologize in advance for what I have to say. I am an honest person and I will tell the truth. This was NOT a great article.

Stalin was not a good man. He killed many Russian people. He killed my great-grandfather, so trust me I am no communist. But excuse me, at least he kept to killing his own people -- the people who loved him and many of whom still love him, as you should know. Not for the killing that he and his bureaucracy did, but for the fact that he pulled Russia out of the mess that Lenin had left, and pulled us through World War 2.

Do people really think that Germany could have been defeated without the Russians? Excuse me, but that is ridiculous. Think about it: suppose Hitler throws his weight on Russia and takes over it. So, Europe seems to be safe, right? No! With Russia's resources and land, Hitler could take over Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas. Scary, isn't it?

The Russians did not let this happen. One out of every seven people died. Did you know that Hitler's policies were not only against the Jews, but also against Slavs? Ever heard of Babyi Yar? Why not mention that when claiming that Russia was not a victim of the war?

Don't let us forget that numerous people in Romania, Hungary and Yugoslavia, not to mention others, collaborated with the Germans. So did the Russians have a right to be angry at them for the atrocities those Romanian, Hungarian and Yugoslavian officers inflicted on Russian prisoners of war? I think they did.

War is never fair. Everyone commits crimes. Let it go. Russia was a key to the defeat of Hitler. How dare anyone discount that fact?

With the fall of the Soviet Union, everyone seems so relieved that the enemy is down and no longer a threat that Russia has been kicked in the dirt far too many times, and for no reason. Not letting Allied planes land in our airfields was not a war crime; the man who invented the Containment Policy that eventually led to the fall of the Soviet Union and the poverty of its people lived in Moscow during the war, so it wasn't like the Allies were all that friendly.

Poland and Eastern Europe -- well, did you know that Roosevelt and Churchill told Stalin he could have them during the conference at Yalta?

Yes, Stalin signed a non-agression pact with Hitler. He did that because he knew that in its post-revolutionary condition, Russia could not take on the mighty German war machine. He needed as much time as he could get to put Russia back on its feet. Remember, too, that as Hitler took over Austria and Czechoslovakia, and was allowed to commit his war crimes, France and Britain shook their heads and told the "little boy Germany" that he wasn't being very nice. And the US did not enter the war right away either, taking time to make profit on guns and other weaponry that they sold to the Nazis.

I found this article as twisting many facts, and disrespectful to the memory of those Russians who died protecting their mother land, and who died so that the world today would not be dominated by Nazism.

By writing this article, you have disrespected the memory of my great-grandfathers and grandfathers, my great-uncles and the women of my family who had to lose their men. Thank you.

-- posted by Anastasiya03