Mastiff Zorba - World's Largest Dog!
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» kenigsberg - Re: Breed standard...
Darleen you know yourself as a breeder that every breed of dog has a standard. BUT... the case is there are TWO standards: North American Standard and European Standard,which has two parts Sweden,Finland,Baltic Countries and England as well keep closer to North American Standardt and the rest of Europe has another type of the same breed of dogs.Gosh!lol I hope you, guys, understood what i wanted to say!? And they are very,very,very different. Just one example: I have not seen any American Breeders of Great Danes with their dogs and maybe a couple with Italian Mastiffs, on the Dog Shows in Germany and France,Holland... It made me curious... WHY? And when i came to USA and visited a few Dog Shows i understood the reason. Just no offence,please!!! I could not understand or i attending Greyhound ring or Great Dane ring.
Well i have a lot to tell you about: size,proportions,muscles build,back line,angles of back legs, hips etc., of large breeds. I have to run. Write, what do you think?
And sorry for mistakes.English is not my first language. By the I'm i'm pretty good in gardening myself and i adore working with plants.
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» mastiffs2005 - Re: Re: Breed standard...
In response to Re: Breed standard... posted by kenigsberg:I have certainly noticed that the mastiffs that come from Europe seem to be larger, more wrinkly - what we typically call the "Old English Mastiff" style (even though we know they're all just called "Mastiff" to the AKC). But yes, there are big differences! I'd love to hear more from you!
I've also noticed that as I look for pups for myself, that there are taller more slender dogs, shorter stockier dogs - I have an example of both in Chesty and Macy. Emmy Lu (my new baby) should be interesting, as she is a pup from this pair!
What did you discover on the reason that the owners are not in the ring with their large breeds? I'm just learning to show my dogs, and I intend to handle them myself 
And don't worry about mistakes in English - we'll figure each other out just fine
Always glad to meet another gardener, too! Have you found your way to our Gardening Community of Interest? Check to your left under Community Channels! It's a vast resource!!
And yes, Traute, I can imagine the food bill! My Chesty only weighs 200 lbs, but he eats 16 cups of food a day!
Y'all have a great day!
Dar
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» mastiffs2005 - Picture of Zorba, world's largest mastiff...
In response to Re: Re: Breed standard... posted by DarCheek:I'm SO very excited! A very nice lady named Louise sent me a copy of Zorba's picture - Thank you, Louise!!
Cool, ain't he?!
-- posted by mastiffs2005
» StrmDncr - Re: Re: Re: Breed standard...
In response to Re: Re: Breed standard... posted by DarCheek:Dar... I've been showing dogs off and on for over 25 years. I noticed you said you were just learning. If there is anything I can do to help you, please feel free to ask.
-- posted by StrmDncr
» mastiffs2005 - Showing mastiffs...
In response to Re: Re: Re: Breed standard... posted by StrmDncr:Thanks so much, Pat! Honestly, from the reading I've been doing, it's a very scary process LOL I don't know if I'm too chicken to show dogs or not, but I'd like to give it a try. Right now, I'm just working with the puppies obedience (not an easy thing with mastiffs) and trying to teach them to stack. At 10 and 11 weeks old, it's cute, but it still needs a lot of work! On Flickr, I've seen folks with flatcoat retrievers teach 5 and 6 week old puppies to stack beautifully - amazing!
Have a great day!
Dar
-- posted by mastiffs2005
» StrmDncr - Re: Showing mastiffs...
In response to Showing mastiffs... posted by DarCheek:Ah... here is where the truth is. Think about working with a 5 week old pup. Hummmmm.. Smaller, easier to handle. Now think about a 10 week old pup. LOL... A ball of energy bouncing around the yard. Not so amazing if you think about it.
What we do is start very early. Once a pup can stand on his own when we do our daily checks we take a minute or two to stack them. Later when we start obebience, besides the usual sit/stay we also teach a stand/stay. When he understands a stand/stay we walk around the dog going back to his right side (your left) then praise and release them. Later you do the same but step back and have someone run their hands over the dog. Over time that person will increase the touching to checking teeth, ears, chest, back, tail and back legs. All the things a judge would do.
But don't give up. It's good practice for you as well as the dogs. Go to some shows and watch how it's done. It's a different story in person.
Have a great day... Pat
-- posted by StrmDncr
» StrmDncr - Re: Showing mastiffs...
In response to Showing mastiffs... posted by DarCheek:As to the standard... Go to the shows and talk to some of the people who have been in the breed a long time. In the Newfie community many of our breeders are going for a smaller dog. Our males are allowed 150 to 200 lbs. Most are now breeding for the smaller end of the standard. As to your question, yes, if you breed two small dogs you will get some pups on the small side. But genes are tricky. That small dog can also have large pups. It takes years to establish the size you want. And, size isn't everything as I'm sure you know. You have to breed for a heavy boned dog as well as conformation and coloring. A good Mastiff has a rolling gait. He shouldn't pound his feet as his moves. Their bodies move a lot like Newfies. A smooth flow with a barrel roll body. If the dog is built correctly they will move the way they should.
WHen I go to the show in May I'll make a point of checking out the Mastiffs..
-- posted by StrmDncr
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Joy Butler
- Re: Re: Showing mastiffs...
I know very little about conformation, Darlene, but I've shown in obedience and it's a lot of fun. You're also not limited to dogs that meet breed standards. If you decide to try obedience competition, I can try to help out there.
-- posted by Joy Butler
» mastiffs2005 - Re: Re: Re: Showing mastiffs...
In response to Re: Re: Showing mastiffs... posted by JButler:Thanks for all the great information, Pat! And yes, please check out the mastiffs when you're at the next show - that's an easy task, eh? Before the dog show a few days ago, they had a whole show on mastiffs, but I didn't know and only caught the last 10 minutes of it - I hope they show it again!
Joy, I'm rofl at even thinking of the word "mastiff" and "obedience" in the same sentence! Mastiffs are wonderful companions, eager to please, but stubborn. They will "eventually" do what you asked them to do, sometimes quicker if you're holding a treat LOL I do think that they make great companion dogs, though, and would be great for visiting sick children and things like that.
I hope y'all have a great day, and thanks for all the support and encouragement!
(((HUGS)))
Dar
-- posted by mastiffs2005
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