Psychic inner child?: Re: Psychic inner child?

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Dear Bibby9,
There are several aspects to what you describe here that I want to address. One is that there is not in my experience a single inner child, or inner child voice. As I say in my book, I believe there are multiple ages of the inner child resulting from our wounding and the dysfunctional environments we grew up in.

"At each stage of the developmental process we were traumatized because of the emotionally repressive, Spiritually hostile environment into which we were born. We went into the next stage incomplete and then were retraumatized, were wounded again.

We have a feeling place (stored emotional energy), and an arrested ego-state within us for an age that relates to each of those developmental stages. Sometimes we react out of our three-year-old, sometimes out of our fifteen-year-old, sometimes out of the seven-year-old that we were." Codependence: The Dance of Wounded Souls http://Joy2MeU.com/joy_22.htm

And as I say in the inner child healing series I originally published here on Suite101, we also have archetypal energies within us that go into making up our inner landscape.

"I believe that we have at least one age of the inner child that relates to each developmental stage. We also have archetypal aspect of our personality. The archetypal facets - such as the rebel or the maiden, etc. - can be very tied into a specific age or relate strongly to several ages. For instance, we all have a romantic within. . . . . . . It is important to get in touch with our inner romantic so that we can have Loving boundaries that do not allow the romantic to lead us into dysfunctional relationships with unavailable people, at the same time we do not have to disown or deny this part of us.

I will sometimes refer to those inner child place (as well as the archetypal aspects of our psyche) as personas. They are not actual personalities. People who suffer from multiple personality disorder/defense are beings who were pushed farther than the rest of us. The wounding process involves the same basic dynamic - in fact, I learned a lot about my own inner process by studying cases of multiple personality - but multiples were broken in harsher ways (usually in an intentional and/or ritual abuse manner that amounted to torture.)" - Inner Awareness - Internal Census http://Joy2MeU.com/inner_awareness.htm

So, my point is that there are a lot of different parts to our inner landscape - not a single inner child voice. The inner child healing is, in my belief, the gateway to opening up our inner channel to Truth, to our Spirit / Higher Self / Higher Mind / Intuition. And part of the payoff for owning the wounded parts of us, the wounded inner children, is that we get more in touch with the playful, spontaneous, spiritual child within - that is representative of our Soul / Spirit. But we do need to practice discernment in our own inner process.

The Universe, in my belief, supplies us with knowledge on a "need to Know" basis. This is not however, what I think I need to know - it is what the Universe thinks I need to Know. Our ego's always want to know about the future because of it's fear of the unknown and desire to try to control. But, as an old saying says, "God made the world round so that we can't see too far over the horizon." In other words, we have no True need to know the future.

I do not believe that any psychic or clairvoyant or whatever, actually has to power to see details about the future. Some people may have more ability to see general type of things in the future, but not exact details. And I believe that anyone who does claim to know details about the future is being irresponsible.

I am a mystic and know some things that are beyond normal human understanding - I have even had some strong hints about future events - but I would never presume to state that I could tell anyone what their future holds in exact detail - and I certainly don't get to Know what my future holds. Here is a quote from an article of mine where I am talking about mystical and metaphysical (beyond physical) elements of our human experience.

"So, this brings us to the more Metaphysical and Mystical aspects of this article. I get uncomfortable in writing about my understanding of levels that are beyond human understanding for numerous reasons. The biggest one is that it is not really possible to explain the unexplainable. It is also not necessary to understand the metaphysical levels in order to do the healing. And as I have mentioned previously, some of us tend to focus on such areas as metaphysics, past lives, astrology, extrasensory or extraterrestrial phenomena as a way of avoiding doing the emotional healing - as a way of avoiding healing our internal relationship with self. Focusing on some of these areas can sometimes be almost as addictive as focusing on other people, or success, or any of the myriad of people, places and things that our disease would rather have us focus on than to deal with our own pain.

And my interpretation of these levels/phenomena/issues is just that - my interpretation. Anyone who is serving as a channel for information is limited by their own intellectual/experiential paradigm. Whether the person is psychic, or an astrologer, or channeling information from "beyond," whatever, it is always important to not give too much power to the details of what they say. Listen for any emotional messages that resonate - but be discerning about giving too much power to their interpretations in regard to details. What one person attributes to an angel another might attribute to an alien presence. Whether something is written in the stars or a theme from a past life doesn't really matter. What matters are questions like: How does this information apply to my healing process today?; How can this message help me see myself more clearly?; Can the information help me to forgive myself and be more Loving to myself?; Is the information and the way it is being presented about Love - does it support Love or is it empowering separation?

I didn't really start to investigate any of these areas until after I had been through treatment for codependence in the Spring of 1988. The day before I left the treatment center one of my counselors told me that I was a mystic. I had to look the word up in the dictionary.

mystic - n. One who professes a knowledge of spiritual truth or a feeling of union with the divine, reached through contemplation or intuition. (New Illustrated Webster's Dictionary, 1993 printing.)

That person was an angel in my path because she stimulated me to create the space in my consciousness to be open to a different kind of inner communication. It was as if she had given me permission to own a gift that had become available to me because of the clearing of my inner channel that I had done/was doing - and shortly thereafter I started writing the first book of my Trilogy. I very seriously pursued learning about past lives and different planes of existence and all of the esoteric, metaphysical knowledge I could access. And that pursuit was important in helping me to enlarge my intellectual paradigm - but a few years later I realized that the whole purpose of the pursuit had been to bring about a shift in my relationship with myself, my concept of God/Goddess, and with life. The details that I had accessed about past lives and other dimensions of existence were not really important in terms of how I live my life today - but the shift in my paradigm, and therefore my relationships, was vital. At that point in time, I threw away all the notes I had taken about different past lives and such.

The whole purpose of my quest was to discover a belief system that could allow me to start believing that I am in fact Lovable and worthy. Figuring out how it all works isn't what is important - what is important is discovering the faith to believe that there is a Loving Force in control. That is what helped me start Loving myself more - to start relaxing and enjoying life a little bit more instead of always giving fear and shame all of the power.

So, anything in terms of details, that I share here are my interpretations. The interpretations that helped me to discover a belief system that served Love - that was functional in helping me to overcome the dysfunctional beliefs I was programmed with in childhood. That they may be different from someone else's interpretations does not mean that one is right and one is wrong. There are a plethora of ways to look at and interpret information which is beyond human understanding. Any explaining or defining of God is limiting - and the Goddess is unlimited.

The purpose of sharing this at all, is the hope it may help you to enlarge your intellectual paradigm - help you to build yourself a larger Spiritual container so that you can open up to accessing more Love in your life." - The True Nature of Love Part 6 - Twin Souls, Souls Mates, and Kindred Spirits http://Joy2MeU.com/Love5.html

It is important to not get caught up in thinking that it is possible to Know the details of what is going to happen in the future. And that goes for the past also at times. If we pressure ourselves enough to try to figure out details about the future or the past, then sometimes our ego will make up things. That is what I believe happened some years ago in relationship to the phenomena of "False Memory Syndrome" - something I mentioned in passing in my book.

"It is also a vital part of the process to learn discernment. To learn to ask for help and guidance from people who are trustworthy, people who will not betray, abandon, shame, and abuse you. That means friends who will not abuse and betray you. That means counselors and therapists who will not judge and shame you and project their issues onto you.

[I believe that the cases of "false memories" that are getting a lot of publicity these days are in reality cases of emotional incest - which is rampant in our society and can be devastating to a person's relationship with his/her own sexuality - that are being misunderstood and misdiagnosed as sexual abuse by therapists who have not done their own emotional healing and project their own issues of emotional incest and/or sexual abuse onto their patients.]

Someone who has not done her/his own emotionally healing grief work cannot guide you through yours." - Codependence: The Dance of Wounded Souls

What I believe happened to cause False Memories is people attempting to fill in details to describe a feeling place / inner child wound that they had gotten in touch with. And sometimes people did that because they were pressured by therapists for the details - and often they were led by the therapist into believing certain interpretations of an emotional wound.

It is not necessary to know the details of how a wound occurred. We need to be willing to remember anything we need to remember, but sometimes we don't get to know what caused a specific wound.

"A technique I have found very valuable in this healing process is to relate to the different wounded parts of our self as different ages of the inner child. These different ages of the child may be literally tied to an event that happened at that age - i.e. when I was 7 I tried to commit suicide. Or the age of the child might be a symbolic designator for a pattern of abuse/deprivation that occurred throughout our childhood - i.e. the 9 year old within me feels completely emotionally isolated and desperately needy/lonely, a condition which was true for most of my childhood and not tied to any specific incident (that I know of) that happened when I was 9." - Loving the Wounded Child Within http://Joy2MeU.com/innerchild.html

What we need to do is honor that there is a place within us that feels a certain thing (i.e. betrayal, rejection, abandonment, etc.) in reaction to certain circumstances or dynamics, so that we can build a relationship with that part of us that helps us to take the power away from that wound. The details of how that wound was inflicted are not important to the healing process.

"It is not that important to know the details of why the child is feeling that way - it is important to honor that the child's feelings are valid. Sometimes we recover some memory and sometimes we don't - the details are not that important, honoring the feelings is important. Trying to fill in the details isn't necessary and can lead to false memories." - Inner Child Healing Techniques http://Joy2MeU.com/InnerChild.htm

What I believe may have happened is that you were feelings some pressure to figure out your "purpose" in life, thinking that it needed to be something that showed up in some way externally - in helping other people in some dramatic or significant way. You may have been consciously trying to figure that out - or not been that conscious of it, but just felt a compulsion to figure it out. Many people think they need to figure out some purpose in life that will involve external activities - and that is not necessarily True. The main focus for all of us needs to be healing our relationship with self - and in doing that we are affecting the collective consciousness. Here is a quote from one of my pages that includes a quote from my book.

"Any single soul's evolution, its awakening, affects all souls because we are all connected. We can, like Imo the genius monkey, create a space, create a new level - a new aspect - of consciousness that other humans then have access to. It is not any accident that most great inventions, most great breakthroughs, were formulated in more than one location in the same time period. Once one breaks through and creates the space, others may follow.

This particular quote from my book refers to the Hundredth Monkey Principle, which I explain in the excerpt from my book that I share on that page. Imo is the name of the monkey who created the new aspect of consciousness for the rest of the monkeys of her species. My mission in this lifetime has been to be one of the "Imo"s in the Transformational Healing Process that has begun on planet Earth. The reason that I was chosen for, and chose, this particular mission was because of the Karma I needed to settle. . . . . It is not because I am better than, or farther along than, anyone else. Each of us is perfectly where we are supposed to be, doing perfectly what we are supposed to be doing. Even if your path only involves healing your relationship with your self in private without ever sharing it with others (not really possible since we all share with the people whose lives we touch rather we know it or not) - you are still contributing to the healing of the planet. Anyone's healing affects us all, everyone's healing impacts the whole - because we are all connected." - Future Publications

So, it is not necessary to figure out some dramatic thing we can do to prove we have purpose to our life. In doing our healing we are changing the world. As the bumper sticker I talk about in my book says: Work for World Peace: Heal Your Inner Child. By healing your inner child wounds you are contributing towards saving the planet.

With all that said, it is possible sometimes to get glimpses of the future. For instance, it is possible you could be involved in helping cancer patients heal. That is something you can start gathering information on if it is a strong message. Like I say in the quote above: pay attention to any part of a message that resonates, but don't give too much power to thinking you know, or have to know, the details.

You asked, ""Is this possible? Can she know the future? She said that God talks to her through my own mother who died almost 20 years ago when I was 12."

No, I don't believe it is possible that your inner child is psychic. You yourself may have some psychic ability that you haven't had the space to own in your own consciousness, but your inner child wounds are wounded parts of your own psyche - not individual entities with powers or knowledge that is separate from the being that you are.

Likewise God as I understand the God Force / Goddess Energy / Great Spirit is not an entity or personality that is separate from anything - and does not speak to anyone. Or rather all of us have access to the Higher Mind / Goddess Energy, because we are all extensions of God. But God doesn't speak to people as one entity to another entity that is separate somehow. And our Higher Self / Higher Power / Spirit / Souls sends us emotional messages of Truth through our intuition. We do not need any other entity to be a conduit for us. In other words, your intuition will tell you what you need to know - it is not necessary for some personality called "God" to speak to you through some separate entity that was your mother in order to communicate with you.

I have a page on my web site called New Age Misinterpretations of Metaphysical Truth. http://joy2meu.com/Metaphysical_Truth.ht... Here are a few quotes from that page.

"The main reason that I have seen the so called New Age movement discredited is that people are not doing their healing. They want to get Spiritual without owning their humanity. They do not want to do the messy emotional healing that involves grieving and releasing the rage energy we are all carrying around. They are out of balance and lack discernment so that they keep looking for the whole truth in one place. There is Truth in all religions, spiritual belief systems, esoteric practices, etc. - but there is also twisted, distorted misinformation in them all. Until we clear our inner channel to allow emotional flow it is impossible to Truly be discerning about Truth. The emotional energy/intuition that is Truth is very different from what we experience as our emotional truth - which is most often largely a reaction to our emotional wounds and subconscious intellectual programming. Until someone has become willing to heal their emotional wounds they cannot clearly start discerning between Truth and misinformation. They keep looking outside for the answers, for someone or something to tell them what Truth to believe - instead of owning their own inner channel to Truth. There are nuggets of Truth everywhere if we have the eyes to see and the ears to hear. If our intellectual paradigm is limited, then we cannot see and hear clearly. If our emotional wounds are being allowed to unconsciously run our lives then we are incapable of Truly understanding our intuition.

And, the bottom line I believe, is that we are Spiritual Beings having a human experience. We are not here to get Spiritual - we are Spiritual. We are here to integrate that Spiritual essence into our human experience. . . . . . Many people who are drawn to the New Age movement are still looking for the right way to do things, for the source outside of themselves that will give them the answers, for the aliens in space ships who will save them from the pain of this human experience. The goal in this Age of Healing and Joy, in my understanding, is to learn to look within to find The Source. To own our Spiritual Essence and our humanity - and to integrate Spirituality into the human experience so that we can achieve some balance in this human dance we are doing.

This is a New Age, but unfortunately many so called new agers are still looking for the magic answer that will allow them to vibrate at a higher vibrational level that allows them to escape the human experience. I do not believe it is possible to do that without first honoring our human emotions, clearing our emotional bodies of repressed emotional energy, and embracing the experience of being human."

This next quote from that page, is actually a quote from another body of work of mine that is not available on the web site.

"For any human to focus on anything but healing their own self is counterproductive in this New Age. To put their time and energy into belief systems that do such things as: attribute all of the significant events, and the important people, in human history to the intervention of aliens from other planets or other dimensions; buy into the belief that they are being manipulated and/or led to Truth by some hierarchy of beings from higher vibrations; or need the intervention of discarnate entities from the Astral plane to teach you Truth; or any of numerous other ways in which people focus their attention on some of the myriad of false gods that are outside of their being; is to deny that they in and of them self are Lovable and worthy simply as beings who are extensions of The Holy Mother Source Energy. To attribute messages that are coming through your inner channel from your own Higher Self to someone or something outside of - or separate from - you, is to give power to the shame and separation that is the evil in this Creation Dream. And the reason humans are doing these things is because they are scared to do their own emotional healing. Honoring, respecting, Loving self enough to heal the emotional wounds from this lifetime is what will clear the inner channel and open self up to Love - not connecting with some being from the Pleiades." - Chapter 5 of Book 1 of The Dance of the Wounded Souls Trilogy

And this last quote from that article includes a quote from my book.

"The point that I am trying to make is that any message that empowers judgment and shame, that supports the illusion of separation, is not coming from our Spirit - those messages are coming from the disease. The Highest Truth, the only Truth, is LOVE. By accessing the Transcendent emotional energy of Love, Joy, Light, and Truth through paying attention to, clearing our channel to, that which we resonate with - we can reconnect with the Source and remember our True identity.

As was stated earlier, Codependence could more accurately be called outer or external dependence. Outside influences (people, places, and things; money, property, and prestige) or external manifestations (looks, talent, intelligence) can not fill the hole within. They can distract us and make us feel better temporarily but they cannot address the core issue - they cannot fulfill us Spiritually. They can give us ego-strength but they cannot give us self-worth.

True self-worth does not come from temporary conditions. True self-worth comes from accessing the eternal Truth within, from remembering the state of Grace that is our True condition.

No one outside of you can define for you what your Truth is.

Nothing outside of you can bring you True fulfillment. You can only be fully filled by accessing the transcendent Truth that already exists within.

This Age of Healing and Joy is a time for each individual to access the Truth within. It is not a time for gurus or cults or channeled entities, or anyone else, to tell you who you are.

Outside agencies - other people, channeled entities, this book - can only remind you of what you already know on some level.

Accessing your own Truth is remembering."

You have access to intuitive Truth because you are doing the work to clear your inner channel by doing the inner child healing. Part of what is important is to start really owning that you have that access - and at the same time not give to much power to any details that may be the result of limitation in your belief systems that cause you to interpret things in a certain way. Like I alluded in the quote above, some people say that God is speaking to them, some say angels are appearing to them, some say there are "wanderers" or "walk ins" or beings from some other planet or dimension that are sending them messages. I say as long as we are focusing on some outside source to validate us, we are being codependent.

But it still couldn't hurt to ask your brother-in-law to not ride his motorbike on that day. What is to lose with mentioning it to him. And no, your inner child is not testing you. The inner child places may not trust us at first, because we have abandoned and betrayed them and our self due to our codependency - but the inner child doesn't test us.

Our Spirit can speak to us through our inner children sometimes - but our Spirit never, ever speaks to us from shame and judgment, and it doesn't test us. The ego defenses and programming / critical parent voice, is part of the disease of codependency, and it uses shame and judgment and fear to try to control us. The Spirit may say something like, "Are you really sure you want to do that" - but it doesn't test us or shame us. The shame is a lie that goes hand in hand with the lie of separation. And at the core of the disease of codependency is the false belief that life is a test we can fail. We cannot fail life. We are Spiritual Beings here temporarily going to boarding school. When we are done with this lifetime, we get to go Home. In Truth we have never left home, what we are experiencing here is an Illusion / a dream of separation.

I am going to end this with another quote from my book. I obviously have taken some time and energy to answer this query of yours - and I hope it hasn't just confused things more for you. This quote is I believe the Truth that it is so important for us to understand and remember.

"Who we are, are transcendent Spiritual Beings who are part of the ONENESS that is the God-Force. We always have been and always will be. We are perfect in our Spiritual Essence. We are perfectly where we are supposed to be on our Spiritual Path. And from a human perspective we will never be able to do "human" perfectly - which is perfect.

We have been trying to do "human" perfectly according to a false belief system in order to "get Spiritual." It does not work. It's dysfunctional and backwards. It is not bad or wrong or shameful - it is the best we have known how to do life until now."- Codependence: The Dance of Wounded Souls http://Joy2MeU.com/joy_22.htm
Robert
PS If you Bibby9, want some more feedback about this, please e-mail me directly rather than going through this discussion. It will be easier and clearer that way.

-- posted by joy2meu