Celibacy as a lay person
- LBear
- chessguyjim
- circe04
- HeadZenCards
- DJ_lexie
- starclox
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» LBear - Mind and body not in synch re: celibacy
Hi, all,Is anyone else thinking about this issue? As a lay person, I have no desire to lead a married life. The sexual desire of the body, though, is still there, no matter how much my mind knows it leads to greed, delusion, and suffering.
How does one deal with this? How does one put down the desire, or transform it, when the mind knows it is harmful but when the body does not want to cooperate?
Many thanks in advance for your ideas.
LBear
-- posted by LBear
» chessguyjim - Re: Mind and body not in synch re: celibacy
In response to message posted by LBear:Your thoughts become physical manifestations, control your mind and you can control the physical, in this case your body. A really good book that discusses this topic is "Wisdom of the Mystic Masters" by Joseph J. Weed.
-- posted by chessguyjim
» circe04 - Re: Mind and body not in synch re: celibacy
Hi,After having led a promiscuous life for many years, I did manage to put in four and a half years of celibacy and found it energisising and purifying. I have been told by my Guru that sex is my final obstacle to enlightenment, but did not heed her advice. And so today I suffer with a sexually transmitted disease which is curable but makes me suffer. I've never had this kind of thing before and know that this is my karma and my liberation. I know I will never have sex again. I want to be the pure little girl I was meant to be.
-- posted by circe04
» HeadZenCards - Re: Re: Mind and body not in synch re: celibacy
In response to Re: Mind and body not in synch re: celibacy posted by circe04:http://www.buddhistinformation.com/sex.h...
Abstention from intercourse does not mean abstention from orgasm. Guilt caused by orgasm is also to be gotten rid of.
-- posted by HeadZenCards
» starclox - Lost Knowledge about Chastity/Celibacy
I really appreciated the article by Yeshe Chodon about celibacy/chastity. What I don't find often in discussions of celibacy/chastity is the aspect of subtle physiology involved here.Although this is a detailed subject, my understanding is that when true chastity occurs, meaning no leakage of sexual fluids in men or women due to orgasm, and there is a regular meditative practice that produces samadhi, then subtle changes begin to happen in the body's chi.
In short, this wonderful combination of chastity and samadhi cause the jin to fill and transform to chi; then the chi to fill and transform to shen. I personally believe that the original knowledge of the value of chastity in spiritual development was based almost completely on the practical experience of highly developed spiritual people at different times, possibly from many different traditions. For those that knew how to do them, these two practices taken together created incredible spiritual and physical results.
But the practical knowledge of this seems to have been mostly lost; and chastity has become a moral or psychological issue in the absence of this real knowledge.
I have been practicing cultivation using both of these physiological techniques (chastity and samadhi) for the last several months and I am finding wonderful changes resulting.
To find out more, check out the work of Master Nan Huai-Chin, and the website dedicated to his teachings by Bill Bodri at: meditationexpert.com
Blessings to you.
-- posted by starclox
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