Ephedrine - A Dangerous Drug?
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» pi1964 - Re: Re: to those safely using ephedrine/caffeine- any problems?
Hi- I am in Liverpool UK. I am 38 yrs old. I have been bodybuilding for fifteen years. 2 years ago i started to use a product called Ultimate Orange. I bought it in a Gym and was told it was a supplement and safe. After using it i felt amazing- my training improved and i could train for hours after a hard days work. I was not told that it contained Ephedrine- Hell i did not know what ephedrine was. I was a clean bodybuilder- i used nothing.I felt tired after work and the new supplement was amazing.
My physique was A1 and did people notice!
I soon noticed that i needed more and more and more to get the same effect- it seemed i was getting immune. Then i was finding it hard to sleep.
After six months i stopped using it and i found it was removed from sale.
I carried on training but my health declined very fast. I could only train for half hour and i was drained- not mentally but physically.
Before using the product i never suffered colds or flu- now i was getting colds very often.
I went to hospital- i had a virus in my blood. I was suffering with the Flu for two months while on tablets to boost my immune system.
My training is finished now- i try every so often to make a come back but after fifteen minutes i am so ill and tired i have to stop. My heart rate increases with even mild training, i feel cold all over and i start shaking.
Please be warned- there are people out there who may not give a damn about your health.
Traindontural- dont look at the steroid freaks, they die young or suffer disease.
Train hard and i promise you it will pay off- think of it as a business- if you build it up to quick it is going to crash.
I wish someone told me like i am telling you- then maybe i would still be working out today.
-- posted by pi1964
» MattD_2 - Re: Re: Re: to those safely using ephedrine/caffeine- any proble
In response to message posted by pi1964:Hey pi1964, that's quite a double-whammy you have there with your story of how ephedrine turned you abusive and suicidal, and 4 minutes later you submit another story about how ephedrine ruined your health. Umm... No offense buddy, but it is starting to smell a tad suspicious with all these horror stories cropping up. Ephedrine is a central stimulant, the same as coffee, not the devil incarnate. I very much doubt ephedrine is responsible for your abusiveness, suicidal tendencies, virus or busted immune system, but I am of course not your doctor so consider it personal speculation. Still, I think it may be time for a reality check regarding the various postings that appear here where people tell the most hideous stories but conveniently never reply to any follow up posts where people ask about the specific circumstances (see Cookie's post.)
-- posted by MattD_2
» Rawrfee - Re: to those safely using ephedrine/caffeine- any problems?
Hello everyone,Well, it's been 7 days without ephedrine or coffee. I decided to just go cold-turkey and surprisingly, I'm totally fine!
To help myself out in the transition I've been drinking green tea and taking ginseng pills. However, my mood is fine, and I don't have any withdrawal headaches or cravings. I'm surprised that I have as much energy as I do! I think that I was beginning to think that the ephedrine/caffeine pills gave me all of the energy I had. I guess I know better now. In retrospect, I think that much of the "mild" addiction was psychological. I guess, however, that addiction *is* often mostly psychological.
I have definitely lost some of my jaguar-like definition, but that's ok. I'm eating much healthier as well. This has been a good exercise, but I think that I will still use ephedrine/caffeine so that I have the "energy to burn" that I will definitely need for when I start my second year of grad school.
Any comments?
Rawrfee
-- posted by Rawrfee
» mowtow - Re: please if you love yourself don't take hydroxycut
In response to message posted by cookie65:This past weekend I had almost the exact same experience using Xenadrinene while wakeboardingng. I thought I was having a heart attack and was going to die -- all I could do was lay down, and it was terrible. Thanks for making the initial post about the danger of taking these types of supplements, I am interested in finding out why this happened to me. I had been taking the supplement for about two months with no adverse reactions -- all positive, added strength, mental clarity, reduction in weight.... I now believe that since these supplements are not regulated, some individual capsulals may contain extremely high levels of ephedrine and or other ingredients....
The day I had this terrible reaction to the supplement, I had been drinking plenty of water, nothing caffienatedted, and only had eaten a moderate breakfast. I just wanted to let everyone know that these unregulattedted supplements can be very dangerous. I consider myself to be very lucky to be alive after what happened two days ago.
-- posted by mowtow
» zxman43 - Re: Re: Re: Re: to those safely using ephedrine/caffeine- any pr
In response to message posted by MattD_2:No offensMattDtD_2, but you are dead wrong. In no way shape or form do you make any sense about your rash comments on ephedrine. Do some research and then post your personal opinion. Ephedrine is very dangerous, whether you are young, old or what ever. You can have perfect health and take the right dosage and be screwed up for life. If you did your research, it is confirmed that ephedrine causes depression and anxiety......bet you didn't know that. It probably doesn't feel good having this thrown back in your face does it??? Well that is how you probably made the person you wrongfully ripped feel. It's people like you who post irrational crap with no research to back your opinion, that piss me off. You need not only a reality check, but a IQ test as well. Think before you type, you may make an ass out of your self.
-- posted by zxman43
» MattD_2 - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: to those safely using ephedrine/caffeine- an
In response to message posted by zxman43:Wow, you sure showed me, didn't you? How about sharing some of this extensive research you claim to have done? I'm particularly interested in the depression/anxiety study. In the mean time, here are a few studies YOU may find interesting:
-- posted by MattD_2
» littlekitty11 - in reference to side effects from ephedrine
We are talking about Ephedrine here and I assume you all know that methamphetimine(speed, crank) is made from ephedrine. I have taken ephedrine for years and my consumption of them has increased to 60 pills a day and that isn't at my worst. The reason for 60 pills a day is because after taking 3 pills a day they don't work like they did so you increase your dosage to more and it starts to snowball. These legal pills are bad news. And to the one who says they don't cause depression when you stop taking them is whacked! READ about the effects of withdrawl from amphetamines and you will get the real deal.-- posted by littlekitty11
» littlekitty11 - Re: to those safely using ephedrine/caffeine- any problems?
In response to message posted by Rawrfee:Please read my message from little kitty I have been taking the regularly for years. All those pills are is a legal speed and are devestating to your health.
-- posted by littlekitty11
» MattD_2 - Re: in reference to side effects from ephedrine
In response to message posted by littlekitty11:What exactly, besides the obvious fact that you're a moron, does your increased abuse and subsequent dependency prove? It's guys like you that caused ephedra to get slated for a total US ban next year.
-- posted by MattD_2
» cindy24 - Re: please if you love yourself don't take hydroxycut
In response to message posted by cookie65:HI, my name is Carmen De Souza(24 yrs old) and I wanted to give you my opinion on this delicate matter of consuming a dietary supplement as Hydroxycut.
I started taking hydroxycut last year for about a month and that is hydroxycut ephedra free ( you did not specify wheather you took ephedra free hydroxycut or not, if you took the one with ephedra I had a bad experience with it too, and I'll never dare taking it again, anyway...).
I lost a lot of weight combining my comsumption of Hydroxycut (ephedra free) with an exercise routine, then unfortunately I had a car accident where I broke my knee and part of my leg, and regained some pounds that for me being a dedicated athlete were definetly a nightmare.
This past week after almost 3 months of surgery to me knee I am again able to exercise, and I started taking it again. I get heart palpitations once in while and that is because of the eccess caffeine in your system and the best to do is drink a lot of water to try to wash it out of your body. Also never take two pills at the same time if it is your first time taking it, always take one and see how your body reacts to it, it would be very unusual to have a reaction from a single pill. Every week you add another pill, because it is a shock to your body; Hydroxycut not only contains the thermogenous ingredients for which it became famous, it also contains multiple vitamins and minerals if u take multiple hydroxycuts it deffinetly make the difference, even if just two. Also each pill contains as much caffeine as two cups of coffy.
It is imperative that the day you take hydroxycut you don't consume any drinks that contain caffeine like tea, soda, or some fruit juices, and also foods high in sugar, because that would increase the jitters.
I personally plan on stopping hydroxycut as soon as another month goes by but my experience with it has been neutral.
I'm sorry that you had a negative experince with it, but for the future always know that when you are ingesting something, as with even prescribed medication follow the dosage to the letter. I personally had an allergic reaction and ended up in the hospital from taking Viox ( pain killer) for my period cramps and guess what? I was supposed to take one and I took two.
Again these supplements aren't for everyone, at the end the healthiest way to loose weight and keep it off is exercise and a healthy diet.
good luck!!
carmen
-- posted by cindy24
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