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Shoulder injury......I think...
This archived discussion is "read only". « Previous 1 2 Next » » MattD_2 - Shoulder injury It's hard for me to judge, but it could be several things - of which the majority could potentially get worse if you're too eager about hitting the weights again too soon.I suggest checking in with your physician before training chest or shoulders again, if nothing else so at least to make sure there's nothing that won't be cured by a week or two of rest. As a general rule though, whenever there is some kind of joint damage involved, you will most likely thank yourself for not rushing things afterwards, even though you might feel uneasy NOW (for missing a chest workout or two). -- posted by MattD_2 » Megamachine - Damn, this is depressing... The thing that bugs me most about this is the fact I have been really busting my butt gaining weight, lifting heavy, eating heavy, and now in a way its like I just took 5 steps back. Question is....should I continue to keep gaining weight even though I cant work as hard as I usually do? or should I cut the carb, and weight gainer back right now? Im afraid I may pack on weight I wont be able to cut up correctly. I suppose for now Ill focus on other parts that dont include my injury area, this is my first real injury, and man,...I never thought it would be this distressing....-- posted by Megamachine » MattD_2 - Dealing with injuries It's not fun, I know.Take my word for it though, that regardless of how much you feel like you're losing by resting properly, that'll be NOTHING compared to what you'll lose if you're too eager and make it worse! You could make something that'd require 3 weeks off become 3 MONTHS off, and adding another 3 months after that during which you can only train at 50% intensity. Now THAT sucks! What you'll have to do is make an honest assessment of the situation: What can you safely train without interfering with the injury? Do it! Besides, chances are that you'll have some lagging bodypart, like calves, neck, or forearms, that can be trained safely. Hey! It's a godsend opportunity to do some catching up! As for food, unless you're planning to do a lot of other high intensity training, I suggest cutting back on the carbs a little until you're training at full intensity again. Keep the protein up though, in order to preserve as much muscle as you can. You will lose some muscle by not training for a prolonged period of time, so there's no point in making it worse by going stingy on the protein intake. -- posted by MattD_2 » Megamachine - Seems to be healing.... My shoulder seems to be healing fairly well, Ive been off now for over a week, Im going back to the gym tues. but Im going to hit it lite for now. How long does it take the body to suffer atrophy? And when your resting an injury, should you take in the same amount of protein you would normally since your not working the body as hard?-- posted by Megamachine » MattD_2 - Atrophy As a general rule, atrophy won't set in for 2-3 weeks of inactivity, if we're talking "inactivity" as in just not training it. Atrophy is considerably more nasty if you've got a cast or similar.Some might argue with me, but I see no reason to cut back on protein during a rest-and-heal period. For one thing, protein in and by itself have an anabolic effect (or anti-catabolic, depending on what study you read, but it doesn't really matter to you in real life - it's good either way!). Ok, I can't stop you from training, but make sure to take it easy there bro... At the first sign of unfamililar pain or a pulling sensation, back off and rest some more, alright? -- posted by MattD_2 » Megamachine - I think I figured it out.... I read that alot of people suffer shoulder injuries from using barbells on the incline bench, which is what I was....doing. I read this on Dave Drapers site. I am getting along fine in the gym, but cant do any pressing movements, especially above my head. So Im fairly certain I did it on the incline bench, when I should have used dumbells instead of a barbell. Is there any good way to maintain my chest size until I can comfortabaly do presses? Cable crossovers are all I can do at this point, and I dont want to lose chest mass.-- posted by Megamachine » bill_juhasz - Mega's Shoulder Injury Megamachine,From what you describe, I had this same sort of injury 10+ years ago and had been struggling with it. About a year ago, I too stopped all incline and shoulder presses with barbells and the pain went away within a couple of weeks. I wanted to confirm that this was the problem so I tried the barbell again a couple of months ago. Guess what? Nearly 2 weeks of nothing but light weights and stretching afterwards because it hurt so stinking bad!! I also have given up any kind of flyes for the same reason. I'm now a cross-over man. Interestingly, my aunt is a physical therapist and I was talking to her about this injury. She had me take my shirt off and noticed that one of shoulders was slightly higher than the other which she explained is common (one leg is typically longer too). With a barbell, you can well imagine how the weight gets imbalanced causing funny stress in the shoulder! -- posted by bill_juhasz » MattD_2 - Chest training without presses Can you do Pec-Deck flyes? Try angling your shoulders differently (placing the elbows at different heights) and go light, and see if you can find an angle that feels good and lets you use decent weight.Don't go too crazy with the weights though. -- posted by MattD_2 » Megamachine - Old School.... The gym I work out at is what may be considered "old school". Its all free weights. Its a great gym, and has everything, but no machines. Will good ol' pushups be enought to maintain my chest size? I have benches, cables and about 10,000lbs. of weight to work with. What do you suggest? By the way I think my shoulder is well on its way to full recovery. I do however believe it was doing incline bench with the barbell. Have you heard of this Matt?-- posted by Megamachine » dnflood - Re: Old School.... In response to message posted by Megamachine:I recently injured my left rotator cuff on the incline/flat barbell press, and am currently healing. Although taking time off of training sucks, most of the more experienced lifters at my gym have assured me that it would be beneficial to rest for 1-2 weeks on chest exercises. This has given me time to concentrate on squats, deadlifts, and traps. Yesterday, a week from when i hurt my shoulder, i decided to do some pushups for a minor chest workout. As long as i kept my grip relatively close, and concentrated on using my pecs, i felt no pain or 'clicking' in my shoulder. -- posted by dnflood « Previous 1 2 Next » Please follow the guidelines set forth in the Suite101 Posting Etiquette when adding to the discussion. |
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