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For the millionth time Craig has demonstrated that all he can do in this forum is to avoid questions and jump from topic to topic (this is a point I have established even at the early stages with respect to Craig). It is very because that he cannot answer my questions. But I can answer any of his questions. If Craig denies this point, I can present him with a list of questions that has evaded. Will Craig let us know at least whether he is going to answer the questions that I have asked form him? If he is not going to answer the questions then could he kindly explain his purpose of getting involved in a discussion?

I have posed some questions, which Craig has not been able to answer until this point. So the readers of this forum can determine whether I have explained to them why they are wrong. If they think that they are correct then they should be able to answer my questions that I have asked. If Craig really wants to find out whether he is correct or not all I have to tell him is to follow the following five simple steps:

Step 1: Take your copy of Bible
Step 2: Read from Mar 16:17 to Mar 16:18 (these I have reproduced below and even Craig himself has added it as a “signature” to his postings)
Step 3: Drink some deadly poison (do not cheat – drink some substantial quantity)
Step 4: Wait for a few minutes
Step 5: If you still think that you are not wrong then, I DO AGREE, that you are not wrong

Mar 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
Mar 16:18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."

You know this is what we call science – verifiable propositions, experiments, observations, conclusions (or to be correct further verifiable propositions).

If you are not willing to verify, then readers can determine who is wrong and who is correct. I do not have to waste my time like this.

If you want to further verify the proposition then please place your hands on sick people and check whether you can heal them – but I do not encourage you to do this because I am a bit scared that pharmaceutical manufactures may assassinate you.

You know this is what we call science – verifiable propositions, experiments, observations, conclusions (or to be correct further verifiable propositions).

If you are not willing to verify, then readers can determine who is wrong and who is correct. I do not have to waste my time like this.

I hope now at least the readers can find out who is the one who believes in one’s arguments (let alone making others’ believe in them).

Then again demonstrating the lack of scientific training that Christians have received, Craig has displayed his pitiable way of arriving at conclusions. To find out whether the atheists are a “dying breed” or not what he uses is the number of posts in online forums. For that he does not need reports from Census and Statistics departments. If you go by such comprehensive reports you can see how the numbers of church-goers are reducing in the countries where education, science, culture, etc. are flourishing. Now Christianity is moving to Asia and even in Asia what they are targeting is the remote villages where education, media, etc are very rare and the missionaries can give away some free stuff to the poor and uneducated masses and get them converted into a religion, which is being rejected in the countries where those missionaries come form. So what we can see is educated people who are trained in logical thinking reject god (as a general pattern). Uneducated people in Asia convert when they receive material benefits (again as a general pattern). What a way to spread Jesus’ message. In Europe where science is thriving and people are appreciating the beauty of rational thinking and comfortable with consistent ideas, churches are being closed down. Congregations are being combined, number of priests are being brought down, Churches thus vacating are being sold, money is being moved to Asia, (Consequently many Asian countries are forced to enact new laws to monitor flow of funds and activities of certain missionaries) money thus brought into countries like India, where millions of poor people are living, is being converted into material benefits and used to convert people into Christianity, and lost faith in educated societies is being converted into newly gained faith in uneducated societies and Christianity is still surviving through the power of its wealth, which Jesus resented.

-- posted by atheist101