The Jesus myth

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Top 114.   Nov 18, 2004 12:42 PM

» Atheist13 - Re: Joseph Smith - Mormons

In response to Joseph Smith - Mormons posted by _Boanerges_:

All religions are cults in my opinion... but I know people in Jesus' time said he was heretic because his views differed from traditional Judaism. And the grammar in the bible is nothing to be proud of. And the tablets that supposedly had the 10 commandments have never been found either.

-- posted by Atheist13



Top 115.   Nov 18, 2004 1:44 PM

» _Boanerges_ - Re: Re: Joseph Smith - Mormons

In response to Re: Joseph Smith - Mormons posted by Atheist13:

Im sure you are right Atheist13smile

I 'd rather just stay narrowed minded and ignorant, if that is okie with you! hhehe.. I'm sure it is...

Well, like I said in the other thread, thanks for the chat.. you have been quite pleasant and fun to chat with! Maybe I will see you around the Suite more often. Take care...

W..

-- posted by _Boanerges_



Top 116.   Nov 18, 2004 2:02 PM

» IsraelDan - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: posted by Atheist13:

the new testament and it at times contradicts the old testament.

Where is/are the contradiction(s)?

- Dave
Dan of Israel

-- posted by IsraelDan



Top 117.   Nov 18, 2004 2:17 PM

» _Boanerges_ - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: posted by IsraelDan:

the new testament and it at times contradicts the old testament. Where is/are the contradiction(s)?

That was my first question... I think 18,002 messages ago! ...lol.. Thats why I am moving along now! Hey Dave, check out this thread from my topic! Would love to see your imput!....

Let me know when or if, my proposed 2 questions to grey_parrot have been answered! I won't hold my breath, but hey! one can only, hope?.. hehe..

http://www.suite101.com/discussion.cfm/b...
read message #1...

-- posted by _Boanerges_



Top 118.   Nov 18, 2004 2:30 PM

» _Boanerges_ - the grammar in the bible ?? okie!

In response to Re: Joseph Smith - Mormons posted by Atheist13:

And the grammar in the bible is nothing to be proud of.

And incidentally, the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet reflect the same truth. They may be divided as three sets of seven, plus the final tahv , the letter of "truth and perfection." Even the alphabet … the Word of Creation … squares the circle, and illustrates the truth of eternity.

Over two centuries ago, when Leonhard Euler declared that p is a transcendental number, he could scarcely have conceived the philosophical depth of his statement. Nor could he have imagined the super computers that, today, reveal the magnificent truth of the circle. Indeed, it is transcendental.

Christ is the center of all things. Only He is capable of finally squaring the circle.

The Circle Is Transcendental

The Hebrew alphabet is reflective of the Bible’s theme of creation and redemption. The Word spoke all creation into existence. Jewish teaching says that the Word is formed by the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet.

But the 22 letters are, themselves, a grand cycle, not only for the church, but for each individual, and indeed, the entire cosmos! There is no better demonstration of this than the pattern found in Psalm 119. Its 176 verses are laid out in groups of eight verses, each beginning with a successive letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Together, they comprise a grand, acrostic circle.

Each of the eight-verse sections demonstrates the spiritual character and meaning of its respective letter. Thus aleph — the letter of creation — begins the walk of the spiritual man:

"ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD" (Psalm 119:1).

As we move along the spiritual pathway with this blessed man, we quickly discover that his way is complex. It leads to completed righteousness in the world to come. But along the way, he suffers doubt, insult, tribulation and affliction, as in the following verse, found at the middle of the alphabet in the nun section. This letter, of course, illustrates the difficulty of maintaining faith:

"I am afflicted very much: quicken me, O LORD, according unto thy word" (Psalm 119:107).

The final verse of this psalm shows without question that David’s epochal work represents the grand cycle of faith. Instead of bringing the blessed man to eternal truth and perfection (seen in the final letter, tahv), it turns back to the beginning of the alphabet, where once again, he moves step-by-step toward eternal righteousness:

"I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments" (Psalm 119:176).

Even at the end of his march, the spiritual man begs the help of the Lord in finding his way. Like all men of faith, he comes to the end of himself, beginning the cycle once again at creation, moving through the predictable circle of difficulty, but supported by the love of the Lord.

In short, the alphabetic pattern of redemption is a circle. Like all circles everywhere, it is unresolved; it is transcendental. Like the Greek letter p that stands for the ratio between the circumference and diameter of a circle, it is infinite.

http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/article...

-- posted by _Boanerges_



Top 119.   Nov 19, 2004 8:45 AM

» Atheist13 - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: posted by IsraelDan:

There is a list here:
http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/tcont....
and here:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/j...

-- posted by Atheist13



Top 120.   Nov 19, 2004 8:47 AM

» Atheist13 - Re: the grammar in the bible ?? okie!

In response to the grammar in the bible ?? okie! posted by _Boanerges_:

So does christianity originate in circle worshipers? or does it evolve from the egyptian sun god, ra?

-- posted by Atheist13



Top 121.   Nov 19, 2004 9:24 AM

» IsraelDan - Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: posted by Atheist13:

Well, as Christianity has many enemies, you will always find someone or some party that will distort scriptural meaning, or at the very least will not seek clarification from Bible scholars who can interpret the Scripture properly. I can tell you that, just by skimming over the supposed "contradictions", most of it based on failure to note the context, or a failure to understand general terminology and concepts. Anyway, I am going to start posting on Wendell's Skeptics Bible thread if you want to check it out sometime. He has given some good refutations of the critics claims.

- Dave
Dan of Israel

-- posted by IsraelDan



Top 122.   Nov 19, 2004 9:35 AM

» _Boanerges_ - When Does A Contradiction Exist?

In response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: posted by IsraelDan:

Anyway, I am going to start posting on Wendell's Skeptics Bible thread if you want to check it out sometime. He has given some good refutations of the critics claims.

Thanks Dave! Looking forward to your good works! The issue of course still remains... it is easy to cut and paste a link for those who know not what resides within those links, assuming they are true, then running away from what that have presented. They present themselves as not too reliable because they almost never attempt to resolve even one issue that they claim! Nevertheless, as you have said to Atheist13; "check it out sometime" is about as much as any reasonable person is able to do!

btw>> The previous CE of my topic, Doy Moyer, wrote a nice little article, clearly overcoming the concept of 'contradictions'....

When Does A Contradiction Exist?
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/bibl...

By the way.. Francois contradicted himself in this article conerning Paul and Jesus, from the texts, whether one considers them true or not. You can find my request to this in the earlier messages of this thread. He said he would adjust his article accordingly. I am not sure if he did or not.. but, that is not an issue with me because he was reasonablesmile

W.....

-- posted by _Boanerges_



Top 123.   Nov 23, 2004 12:32 PM

» Atheist13 - Re: When Does A Contradiction Exist?

In response to When Does A Contradiction Exist? posted by _Boanerges_:

<--- checked it out
<--- wasn't interested

-- posted by Atheist13



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