Confronting God and Talking about Gethyllis:

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  1. Paul_Tyerman
  2. asterix
  3. RobertHamilton
  4. Mary_Wise
  5. Gary
  6. Sheils
  7. Betty57
  8. RobertHamilton
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Top 63.   Jul 28, 2003 8:48 PM

» Paul_Tyerman - Re: three years later

In response to message posted by Gary:

Gary,

My seedligns are still alive as far as I know, so I am still growing them at this stage.

-- posted by Paul_Tyerman



Top 64.   Jul 28, 2003 9:12 PM

» asterix - Re: Re: three years later

In response to message posted by Paul_Tyerman:
Hi Gary,the bulb you gave me is still alive, if I get down on my knees and beg maybe it will flower for me ,oh what a beauty it is in your pics,

-- posted by asterix



Top 65.   Jul 28, 2003 11:55 PM

» RobertHamilton - Re: Re: Re: three years later

In response to message posted by asterix:

I am a bit dissapointed with the return of the seedlings which germinated for me last winter. Kept them completely dry from November to February. G villosa has done OK but only one return seedling between the other two pots I sowed. I have them in 50% potting sand 50% commercial mix.

Refusing to be put off I have sown another half dozen species this winter hoping for better success. Perhaps I should try Paul's method this summer
(grin).

Gary, any advise for this gethyllis novice?

-- posted by RobertHamilton



Top 66.   Jul 29, 2003 1:51 AM

» Mary_Wise - Re: three years later

In response to message posted by Gary:
I am not even going to try these Gary to much fussing about. Will just admire your images smile they are wonderful.
Robert H do you perhaps think that bone dry for a tiny seedling bulb was a touch severe?

-- posted by Mary_Wise



Top 67.   Jul 30, 2003 3:51 AM

» Gary - dormancy

In response to message posted by Paul_Tyerman:

Hi Paul,

I only speak from my own personal experiences on growing these.

When I tried what I now call cheating, by putting them in the garage; the results sucked.smile

During the dormant phase, should you think a storm is likely; cover the bulbs. Do not leave them covered up during high humidity; this will lead to rotting and death. Good air flow with low humidity are needed to grow and flower these treasures.


I grow mine in light, cheap but cheerful large plastic pots, deep ones which can be covered during short wet weather or lifted and brought inside - needing two persons to lift; during extended wets. They need central cooling and a steady temperature, if you live in a high humidity region with summer rains, these are, for you , best suited to indoor culture.

cheers,

-- posted by Gary



Top 68.   Aug 1, 2003 4:45 AM

» Sheils - Re: three years later

In response to message posted by Gary:

Gary your pictures are lovely.
Very sad to report that dry in Perth is far too hot and dry. There were no remainssad

-- posted by Sheils



Top 69.   Aug 2, 2003 1:28 AM

» Betty57 - Re: three years later

In response to message posted by Gary:

G, would these grow in my fern house?

-- posted by Betty57



Top 70.   Aug 2, 2003 4:02 AM

» RobertHamilton - Re: Perth -too hot and dry ?

In response to message posted by Sheils:

Hi Sheils,

Some of these grow in the Richtersveld which borders on Namibia where they are lucky to get 5-6 inches of rain per year and in summer it gets to 50C.

Mary thats why I'm not too worried about drying off young seedlings.

-- posted by RobertHamilton



Top 71.   Aug 2, 2003 4:15 AM

» Gary - Perth -too hot and dry ?

In response to message posted by RobertHamilton:

Reprinted from the UCI Arboretum 'Arboretum Quarterly' Vol. 3 No. 2

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The climate of the northwestern Cape of Southern Africa can be quite inhospitable. For the most part the winters are cool and wet, and the summers are hot and dry. The plants that grow here must be able to adapt to the intense seasonal changes if they are going to survive. They must be able to take advantage of the rains while they last, as well as survive the long hot dry spells in a dormant state. Gethyllis (Family: Amaryllidacae) is one such genus that has managed to adapt to these extremely variable conditions.
There are thirty-three currently recognized species in the genus Gethyllis. Most are found in the Cape Floristic Region with a few species widely distributed throughout southern Africa and Namibia. Gethyllis grow in areas with little rain that falls mainly in the winter. It is a curious plant that is always popular at our Spring Open House, when the foliage is present. The Arboretum is lucky to house approximately half of the Gethyllis species.

Unlike most plants that flower and leaf at the same time, Gethyllis has three separately occurring phases in its yearly cycle - leafing, flowering, and fruiting. The fruiting and leafing phases can occasionally overlap.

As with most plants the foliage grows while a sufficient supply of water is present. In the Cape this happens to be in the cool winter. The leaves are generally light grey-green in color and linear in shape. Many of the species have gently twisted leaves which spiral out of the sheathed neck of the bulb giving the plant an exotic, striking appearance. Some species even have hairs covering the leaves. These adaptive traits, which make the plants so popular, are thought to help protect the plant form the sun and reduce their water loss from evaporation. As the rainy season comes to and end and the temperatures rise, the foliage dies back to the sheathed neck and the bulbs begin to go dormant.

Once it is hot and dry, the bulbs enter their flowering phase. Due to the large amount of energy it takes, each bulb can only produce a single short lived flower in any one year. The sheathing neck left over from the dried leaves helps protect the delicate white or pink flower from the hot sun baked soil. With the flowers lasting only a few days, it is essential that as many of the plants as possible bloom at the same time if they are going to be pollinated. Since most of the plants tend to bloom within a day or two of passing cold fronts, their bloom is thought to be regulated by atmospheric pressure. With greater decreases in barometric pressure, more and more plants bloom simultaneously resulting in both a more spectacular bloom and more importantly increasing the likelihood that each plant will be pollinated.

Once pollinated, the third and final phase, fruiting, begins. It can take more than two months to produce the club shaped, aromatic fruit which ripens just in time to release the seeds for the rainy season. The seeds have an extremely short viability and will only last until the rainy season begins. This interesting reproductive strategy occurs in a variety of plants that grow in arid environments. It enables the plant to grow a longer time that first season which helps it build a sufficient store of energy to survive the hot dry dormant period. This adaptation may give the plant a better chance of survival in the wild, but the seed's short viability is the bane to many a conservationist making gene banking very unlikely.

The very adaptations that enable these fascinating plants to survive in such a harsh environment, also make it difficult to maintain them in conservation collections. They require soils with excellent drainage and can be difficult to grow for those who like to water generously. They are poor vegetative producers but seed readily when cross pollinated, however a sufficiently large population is needed to ensure good seed sed. Lastly, due to their short seed viability, they can not be gene banked. Those that have seen these intriguing plants are sure to agree that they are worth the trouble.

References:

T.H. Arnold and B.C. de Wet (eds.) 1993. Plants of southern Africa: names and distribution. 825 pp. National botanical institute. Pretoria.

Neil Du Plessis and Graham Duncan, 1989. Bulbous Plants of Southern Africa: a guide to their cultivation and propagation. 192 pp. Tafelberg Publ. Ltd. Cape Town.

-- posted by Gary



Top 72.   Aug 2, 2003 5:14 PM

» asterix - Re: Perth -too hot and dry ?

In response to message posted by Gary:
Thanks for that information, i shall store it away so I don't get tempted to give mine just a little splash of water in the middle of a hot dry summer,

-- posted by asterix



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