Why do some of today's youth have no respect for authority?

» Phil_J - Someplace

Someplace in my archives, I have a poster with a quotation from Adolph Hitler in which he bemoans the plight of decent society where children have lost their respect for authority. I think the ancient Greeks used to complain about it too. And, didn't the ancient Jews provide a stoning death for bad kids?

I'll try to find the Hitler poster. In the meantime, maybe someone else here has seen it?

pj

-- posted by Phil_J

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» Neon_Lite - I agree...

Kids are naturally rebellious...possibly due to some social evolutionary thing? (Is this vague)...kind of like the way a cell can mutate when all the other cells around it are acting normal? Maybe kids need to be rebellious to stop us from all going stale....first law of physics...."if something doesn't keep moving it will die" (ok this is a loose trascribed quote)

-- posted by Neon_Lite

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» angie1973 - Houston Aggie

It must be nice to be able to give such an assured answer on such a broad 'problem'.
I agree with the previous two posts in that it is a part of childhood. Some children are less rebellious than others. Is it because they have never heard of Roe Vs. Wade?
When we are so quick to lay the blame on things, (heavy metal music, 'risque' books, and court cases that changed laws), we have a tendencey to just leave it at that and not look further into the problem. "Why investigate further? We already have all the answers". Perhaps you should open your mind a little bit and allow other possibilities.
I happen to think that Roe Vs. Wade was a great leap in the direction of feminine equality. To peg it and it alone as the reason for rebellious teens isn't exactly rational thinking.

-- posted by angie1973

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» Purpleflame - Houston Aggie

If we are to entertain your notion of the cause of childhood rebellion, shouldn't you address the reason(s) that pre-dated Wade v Roe? Children have been rebellious since time began. There were no t.v.s, no video games, no nintendo, no rock n roll, no gangsta rap, etc...
Its obvious you have a problem with the ruling in the Wade v Roe case. That's your right. But to attempt to blame the ills of society on one court case is a little assumptive, IMO.

-- posted by Purpleflame

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» Neon_Lite - Roe V's Wade???

Roe V's Wade WHO?

IS this some "landmark" court battle?

Or is this next weeks American WWF tag team leaders?

Oh and why does the World Wrestling Fed use the word "world" when it is US based?

Is it like the World Series base ball thing as well?

-- posted by Neon_Lite

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» houston_aggie - Roe v. Wade

Neon_Lite...this is the landmark courtcase which legalized abortion in the United States.

Angie/Purple
Yes, I'd agree that this courtcase isn't the sole cause for all of society's problems. That would definitely be a bit simplistic. I just personally believe it to be strong contributing factor in the lowering down of our society's values/morals.

I'd also agree that rebelliousness is an innate quality in a teen. However, telling the teen that sexual promiscuity is okay - as long as they're protected - fails to impress upon them the social/emotional impact of such relations. It devalues sex and fuels the rebellious fire. Telling them that "problems" like pregnancy can be gotten rid of with a few hundred bucks and an hour at a clinic goes even further to debase life itself. It ignores the cost of the consequence of conscience which must be paid for a lifetime.

Teens have always been rebellious, but has the level of teen violence always been so great. Can we count the abortion of a potential life as violence? My mind is open to the possibility, is yours? Since abortion was legalized, more babies have been legally aborted (read killed) than people have died in all the wars fought for this country. Some half of the aborted would have been women one day. A proud step forward for feminine equality to deny their existence or even their right to it.

-- posted by houston_aggie

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» scottishgirl - What's Your Point?

The topic is teen rebellion/disrespect, not abortion.

Please don't start what will be a passionate argument in this thread. If you want to espouse your opinions on why abortion is "wrong" go ahead...on your own thread where people know what to expect when they go into it.

-- posted by scottishgirl

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» houston_aggie - Scottishgirl

Point well taken. Understand that I didn't want to inflame anyone. Simply put, aside from the argument of whether abortion is wrong or not (which pitfall I miserably failed to avoid), I believe there is a correlation between valuing life and good societal behavior.

-- posted by houston_aggie

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» scottishgirl - Point Taken As Well

I understand what you're trying to say, but at one point or another, allowing women to cut their hair, vote, and own property in their own rights were also all blamed for causing societal ills.

However, those topics don't start the passionate arguments that "the other one" does, so I figured a friendly reminder now would save a lot of arguing later! :-)

Have a good one!

-- posted by scottishgirl

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» Deb_TT - The Times

I remember the rebellious youth of my youth, growing up in the 60s-70s. Or how about the rebelliousness of the James Dean era? It is always been around. How about the teenage cavegirl that didn't want to stay home and dust the cave but go out and commune with dinosaurs? (OK joke I know they didn't walk on the earth at the same time, so please don't take this part to task :Þ).

I believe most rebellious natures are just teens trying to make their way out into the world. Most of it will pass and some rebellions bring good changes.

-- posted by Deb_TT

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