It's All in the Family: The Elweans and Ingweans - Page 2


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Ingwe, Finwe, and Elwe also present problems. Their histories as characters under Tolkien's hand evolved both together and separately. There can be no doubt that at one time Ingwe was the eldest of the Elves, the first to awaken. Finwe, too, seems to have been a first generation Elf for a while, as Feanor was originally supposed to have been born during the Great Journey. And yet, these "facts" were discarded and the Elven families were pushed back. Tolkien constructed an elaborate social history for the Elves which explained their numerous divisions and apparently called for even more ancient Elves. Ingwe, Finwe, and Elwe subsequently become merely very ancient Elves, but not the most ancient of Elves. In the children's tale of the First Elves ("Quendi and Eldar", in "The War of the Jewels"), there is no mention of Ingwe, Finwe, Elwe, or Olwe. These Elves are not named. The first three to awaken are Imin ("one"), Tata ("two"), and Enel ("three"). Their appointed spouses lie sleeping beside them: Iminye, Tatie, Enelye. Clearly, since Finwe's first wife was Miriel and since Elwe only married Melian the Maia, Tata and Enel cannot be Finwe and Elwe. Also, because Elwe's brother Olwe is firmly established in the mythological canon, they must have had parents. Yet some people insist that Imin must be Ingwe. After all, they argue, Tolkien doesn't say that Imin is not Ingwe. Which is the silliest possible argument of all, since it is completely lacking in logic. Tolkien's absence of denial for any given assertion does not make that assertion true, possibly true, or even possible. The distinction between Tolkien's imagination and our own is the boundary between what Tolkien wrote and what we write. It may seem convincing to believe that Imin is Ingwe, but Imin cannot possibly be Ingwe. In the children's tale, Imin is the undisputed leader of the Elves. He is the eldest. No one questions his place in their primitive society. And yet, Ingwe holds no station among the Elves until Orome selects him to be an ambassador. From that point forward, Ingwe acquires an authority which Imin cannot claim: Ingwe is Orome's chosen representative for the Minyar (the Firsts, the Elves descended from Imin's companions). In "Quendi and Eldar", Tolkien wrote: "According to the legend, preserved in almost identical form among both the Elves of Aman and the Sindar, the Three Clans were in the beginning derived from the three Elf-fathers: Imin, Tata, and Enel (sc. One, Two, Three), and those whom each chose to join his following....It is said that of the small clan of the Minyar non became Avari."

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10.   Nov 14, 2002 12:45 PM
In response to message posted by Michael_Martinez:
Maybe Celeborn stayed in Middle -earth not only to look after his grandchildren. He might have been the person to "close the door" of the epoch of e ...

-- posted by rishade


9.   Nov 14, 2002 11:49 AM
In response to message posted by Armenelos:

Thanks for the apology. It's okay to quote the first few paragraphs of an article and then ...


-- posted by Michael_Martinez


8.   Nov 13, 2002 11:51 PM
this is a most excellent article. i've read two of yours so far (the other i posted on Tolkien Online without asking, even though I gave you credit, and for which I am very sorry), and I have fully ag ...

-- posted by Armenelos


7.   Jan 10, 2002 10:47 AM
Hmmm, rteed, yes one feels for Elrond, but if we go down that path, what about poor Celebrian? First captured and tortured by orcs and is so traumatized by the events she insists on leaving Middle Ea ...

-- posted by celebrian


6.   Jan 7, 2002 8:26 PM
The information on Celeborn and Elrond's sons during the 4th age is at the end of the Prologue in "The Fellowship of the Ring". Arwen's story and more about her relationship with Aragon can be found ...

-- posted by rteed





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